I wouldn't have a problem with end-game content if it were functional. It doesn't have to be numerous, just fun. PVE dailies on Belsavis/Ilum = worst experience in the game and repetitive Ilum PVP = I have never experienced it as I've never seen >10 people on Ilum PVP = no cross server ranked PVP, so outcome determined before 80% of warzones start HM flashpoints = No LFG so it's hard to find a group. They're generally the same thing as Normal Mode except with rage timers and more bugs. What about this looks entertaining? Honestly if the end game content that they already have worked correctly, I'd be having fun. But it doesn't.

You're right, I felt the same way. Logged back in and had some of the same issues described in the OP. Just alt+f4 in frustration and canceled by sub. I really wanted to like it even though I'm not an MMO fan, I felt that if it had some fixes I could... oh well.

Maybe I'll try it. But let's wait until it is actually released. That writer is doing it no favors by hyping it.

This. And also being down 0-3 in Huttball with the other side laughing and people on our side quitting. Then we win 5-3.

I guess what I was getting at is, you can't just say "you're having a bad day in an MMO." Not when I've been emotionally invested in this company for 13 years. It's shocking to see half of the hard mode instances as the same as normal except with rage timers and loads of bugs. Or PVP with no cross-server, or flashpoints with no LFG. In playing 30 minutes total of Ilum PVP I saw so many design flaws it made me wonder at the time and care put into this project. It's really a culmination of all that and never having experienced anything like it before with Bioware's other games. I know there are a lot of people who hop around from MMO to MMO, not sure if you're one of them. But none of them will care about Bioware after they're gone. I do, and it goes well beyond just having a bad day. The end game is shocking.

I'm not an MMO gamer, I'm mostly a Bioware gamer. If this game weren't made by Bioware, I wouldn't have played another MMO outside of the month I wasted playing WoW. It actually embarrasses me that I play one now. Just out of curiosity, when did you play your first Bioware game? BTW the friend I was with is talking about quitting. He got to 50 long before I did and has experienced these issues as well.

You know what's weird? I didn't have a single one of these from level 1-49. Now that I'm playing the 50 content, all of a sudden every run seems to have some sort of gambreaker. I'm torn between logging in again and calling it a night. Was going to log in again but now I feel anxiety, like what will go wrong next? :(

This will be a coolstorybro tale of woe, bugs, and exploits from someone who has defended this game repeatedly and received abuse for doing so. Yesterday I wanted to play my favorite current addiction SWTOR. Queue for PVP, and when I try to enter, I'm kicked out of the game to the character selection screen. Then my friend comes on and wants to run Foundry HM. So I think, sure, why not? PVP isn't working. Everything is going smooth in Foundry, even the HK fight until a point where HK gets a buff he's not supposed to and one shots our party. Try again, same. Try again, same. We die 5 times hoping this will stop happening. Demoralizied, our group disbands. My friend and I are getting frustrated, we need a confidence booster. So we PUG a D7 HM group. Get to the clone boss and infinite clones start spawning. Three bug-ridden deaths later we call it a night. This morning I'm ready to wash the fail away. PUG a group for normal mode False Emperor. The tank unfortunately loses his ability to move in the middle of some big pulls. Twice. We manage because this is normal mode, thank God it wasn't HM or we'd never have finished. He had to relog twice btw and me once for lag issues. I come back from work tonight and get slammed over and over again by the same premade guild. They predictably wipe the floor with our group who have no premades. This goes on for 1.5 hours, with my faction deciding to camp one objective for medals with no enemy in sight. Daydreaming of what cross-server PVP would be like, I wander to Ilum for dailies and notice a box that says "NO OBJECT", the same box I've been seeing for weeks. 30 minutes later the dailies have bored me and I queue for PVP again. Again, the same guild. But we take a 1-0 lead in Huttball, and just as I feel that finally FINALLY I could be on the winning end of a warzone against this guild, the game freezes and crashes robbing me of 4 commendations and a victory. I don't often throw controllers but my headset is on the ground right now, thankfully it's light and I didn't toss it very hard. It was just the culmination of 2 straight days in SWTOR of buggy, brutal failure. Look, I've been a loyal Bioware fan ever since I bought that gothic, glossy Baldur's Gate box with those glorious 5 CD's over 10 years ago. The spiral bound manual full of funny asides and medieval-feeling script is something I will never forget. We've had our ups and downs but almost always ups. You're my favorite developer by a mile. BUT you have got to get a handle on the quality control in this game. If this had been any other developer, I would not be giving them the benefit of the doubt. I always have time for Bioware, though. Your name and reputation are the only things keeping my hope in this game alive. Please please please do something about these issues that have (as I was later informed) been around for months. Signed, Bioware fanatic since 1999

I can't for the life of me understand why Bioware spent $200m on this and didn't go for the premium, proven engine. It's like building a $10m F1 car and spending $200 at the local Les Schwab for discount tires.

This this and this Except I also like Voidstar

Until bracketed pvp is implemented, people should be free to leave warzones without penalty. I think a number of people would just take the penalty and go do something else rather than waste time.

I have never faced a premade like the one you describe. Very simple. If you want to queue as premade, you're going to play with premades. If you don't want that, don't queue as premade. Simplez. Guildies currently spend 1/2 the day ruining PVP on my server during low pop hours. In fact people were quitting on Sunday because premades were queueing all day.

Yeah don't bother to learn warzones if you're low level. That's gonna be a vibrant PVP community with the same 15 battlemasters duking it out in Huttball 24/7.

Well you're not alone with respect to Ilum. Went there tonight when there were 130 on the fleet, only 10 on Ilum. Didn't see anyone and left. What a waste. Warzones are fun for me and I saw Republic on my server winning very often, probably more than us Imps won tonight. You guys have battlemasters too, I know because several spent the afternoon ****** me.

Wow, so you're complaining that you can't press a button and lock out all significant spellcasting for a healer? I'm glad you don't work at Bioware.

This. Congrats /golfclap

Good idea. So many don't bother focusing on the objectives.

These replies really surprise me. I totally expected a WoW clone in terms of sidequests, and that's what we got. But you know what? Bioware, had they taken the time and care, could have crafted much better sidequests with more depth. It's their area of expertise and it should have been within their ability to make interesting sidequests. The more I play this game, the more it feels like it has no connection to Bioware whatsoever.

Switch to PVP in warzones. PVE is buggy and boring. Dailies are just excruciatingly tedious. At one point they force you to fight stuff 7 levels lower than you. Flashpoints are the same as before except with rage timers and a massive amount of bugs. Multispawn in D7 still there, HK buff bug still there, etc. Just do warzones and forget PVE until they fix it.

I did, no effect.

I know I am. Soon as I see premades, I bail and wait till later. Not going to beat my head against the keyboard with an impossible task of winning with PUGs vs. premades. Screw them, let them farm valour against someone else.

It's not just me either. People are getting kicked out for accepting the invitation for a warzone. Sends me to the toon selection screen. On general chat people are complaining about it. What is going on???

The Imp Fleet on my server is steady and during low population hours has actually been growing.

Wish we were on the same server. I'd get my Powertech and show you the flaw in that logic. Pew pew cc and win? Try that strategy against a powertech who has any clue how to play his class and see how fast you die. He said "2v1" and i was pointing out that wouldn't even work 1v1. Seriously you should be banned for blatant trolling. And what you're overlooking is that Sorcerers have the worst damage mitigation. Meaning a decrease of 1000dps disproportionately affects sorcs because all the classes they play against have higher armor mitigation. We have to kill fast to avoid dying fast. Get it?

Poor troll is poor. Try 1v1 against a geared Marauder and get back to me. 2/10