There are lots of reasons people have left the game/their original server, at first I thought the drop in population was normal but it kept plummeting to what it is now.. a ghost town. People weren't (still aren't) happy about end game content. People were pissed rateds weren't in 1.2. People just expected more from Bioware (I'd be included in that group) People re-rolled to a different server. And some poor people like me are still sitting on dead servers where there is no MMO experience to even be had until transfers begin. I didn't say the players caused this, but if no one re-rolled to The Fatman I'm sure populations on the light servers wouldn't be as vacant as they are now. My server even has a thread under the server group forums about re-rollin to The Fatman. Bioware lacks forsight, but no one could have predicted this six months in. No one is blaming you for re-rolling, but please let these first rounds of crucial transfers for people still playing on dead servers happen before you expect any legacy combinations for you and your characters. Your little guy on The Fatman is in a good place and your other characters will soon be able to enjoy a server with a healtier population too if you decide you want to play them again and that's the goal of these transfers.

When you re-rolled to The Fatman, did you not realize that you were playing on a completely different server with different people and you were starting completely from scratch? Part of the problem was re-rollers, the players did effect our original servers in negative way when people began jumping on the re-roll bus en masse and that is part of the reason the players will not be allowed (especially at this stage) to choose anything. Just because you read the word TRANSFER doesn't mean you'll be able to immediately combine all of your characters on to one server. In the future you'll be able to I'm sure but they're stabilizing populations across the board at this point. We don't even have all the details on these restricted transfers yet... which are intended to be for ALL characters stuck on dead servers. Don't expect them to add another layer of work to correct individuals personal preferences right now.. doing millions of individual character transfers with this structured setting is enough of a challenge I think.

Things will change, I can't say for good or bad anymore. I had unrealisitc expectations coming into this just because I believed Bioware had an impeccable reputation of providing quality products. I no longer believe that, but I'll keep going down with this ship too in the hopes that it will get better with time.

I don't think we're suppose to "stick to a faction". It's not the goal anyways. The Legacy system already shows the intent for a player to achieve different rewards through playing both factions (and I think it should, what better way to try to balance population on a server than to have a player who has an option to play both sides at any time). I personally didn't want to jip myself out of questing through an entire side of content... that was enough motiviation for rolling a character on the opposite side for me after leveling two 50's on the empire side. Was always a horde girl in WoW but here... it's different. I'd encourage people to try it out if they haven't already.

The state of the game is dire. At the moment it is still not being enjoyed by a large percentage of the population of active servers. It's 8:30 P.M. prime time Saturday night where I'm at and how many servers would you guess are above "light"? 8 You can't ignore that. I've seen a lot of excuses why my sever... a lot of servers are dead and I don't care why anymore. I won't re-roll and I needed a transfer a long time ago already. I don't care how it's done for the most part I just want to play with people. My server held an illusion of a decent population for quite a while but not anymore. When a whole night goes by and you sit on the fleet wondering when your queue will pop, it ain't worth it. Transfers could have been implemented better... most can tell already. There are a lot of entitled opinions as to why X,Y and Z should be available. For right now, it's BASIC transfers to fix the huge problem mentioned above. We really don't even have the full details on the free transfers and people are screaming about why they feel excluded from benefiting from this in one way or another and demand things Bioware can't provide right now. They need to fix this first and re-evaluate a lot of things. I can see where the quote you mentioned would give the impression that it'd be a top priority to allow transfers for characters to combine Legacy together and it will be available in the future ( I nor anyone else can say how they'll be made available or the stipulations of them) but for the moment moving characters from dead servers on to a server with a healthy population across the board is what needs to happen first. The fact that we are where we are six months in and this is the hot topic.... isn't good and I do feel your overall frustration with the game, where it's at, what I thought it would be, and I wonder where it will it be in another six months.

Proof? and if you're talking about about what they said on 12/20/11. It doesn't apply and you're taking it out of context.

http://www.swtor.com/community/devtracker.php

If that's the case than my previous post was correct. CS only advised this (I think) at launch when the servers were experiencing queues and wait times... before (as) they added too many servers. It has been taken out of context Thank you.

Not that I don't believe you, but that could be completely fabricated. People seem to read something and take it as fact and sometimes will even gloss over important parts of it and continue to spread mis-information easily.

Link on the CS advising? We don't have anything set in stone on transfers, who knows right now what it will entail. They definitely have not said anything concrete about paid transfers and the conditions of it or if there will be any other available options after this initial phase of transfers.

CS only advised this (I think) at launch when the servers were experiencing queues and wait times... before (as) they added too many servers. It has been taken out of context and also, no one has said anything about paid transfers yet any claims about them are simply a possible theory at this point.

It's in Biowares best interest to have transfers available to people playing their MMO on a dead server. You've been enjoying the game with people I have not. The goal is to get ALL characters to a server with a healthy population... nothing more, and your re-rolled character is doing perfectly fine in that department.

There is no information at ALL about paid transfers. Right now we are in the free transfers for the 90+% of servers with population issues phase. When you made a decision to re-roll to a new server you must have known there would be consequences no? Just cause you saw the word transfer doesn't mean you get to instantly move all of your characters to the server of your choice. If you're on a dead server or the characters you've left behind still are and you'd like to give them a whirl again. Please move them to a server with a healthy population. If you've got a character on a high population server already and you want to continue to play them... continue playing them on that high population server if you choose to do so. These transfers are fixing a glaring population issue, they're not meant to consolidate your characters from multiple servers, correct the type of server you want to be on (I realize there are a couple of exceptions to that though), and no they don't have the ability to move your whole guild... BASIC transfers to fix a problem that should've been taken care of months ago. Don't expect anything fancy and wait for more actual details.

Not yet they're fixing a population issue with these free transfers. They'll be doing millions of individual character transfers as is. They're not at the point of fixing your choice to roll characters on three different servers though I'm sure you'll be able to consolidate them in the future.

Everyone who is on a dead server will get an option to play on a server with a decent population after this is done hopefully, that's the goal. We're not at that advanced stage of correcting players choices to re-roll and combine multiple characters created on multiple servers and put them on a single server of your choosing... hopefully soon for those that would like to. We still have very little details on this process despite all the pages of this thread. Next Tuesday we'll know a little more.... soon™

And who should you be mad at? Yourself pretty much. Did you really think that when you made characters on different servers that the instant they offered any kind of transfer you would be entitled to move your characters any ol place you'd like? They're fixing a population issue not the deliberate choices you've decided to make.

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That's by all means your choice and right to debate at any time, I just don't want to come off as one of those "If you don't like this game, LEAVE!" people cause lets face it, we need everyone we've got. It's true, it'll begin in 4 days. They're offering us what they can.. I'll have to assume other transfer methods will be available in the future for everyone who wants them. For me at the moment there's a small amount of joy knowing I can PvP in a few weeks and have people to play with again. No people populating the majority of servers available is bad any way you look at it. It's the blazing fire that needed to have been put out months ago. I don't know exactly why it has taken so long (legacy?) but they'll be here soon™ I'm going to give it a whirl... I can totally understand where you're coming from though. Edit: How's the Cyan

Yeah, you know they are doing what they can. I won't sit here and type that I'm ecstatic about where this game is at and how it has gotten to this point. But to get your panties in a bunch over 5K...? I've spent 30 times that simply pulling mods out of ONE item. I'm sure they are sorry. They must know they've screwed up on several issues. They really are out of touch with what the player base wants... and they also seem to listen too much to a vocal minority. They over estimated the amount of servers that were needed after people started crying about queue times (by a ton). We are slowly getting fed content that probably should have been available at launch. All they can do for the time being is put out the population fire to the best of their ability with the tools they have available now. If you want an admission of suckage or an apology you aren't going to get one. See what happens in the next few weeks. Then ask yourself if Bioware is providing YOU personally with enough enjoyment for you to justify paying them your sub fee.

Yep, I'm well aware. Some people are crying for their whole guild to be automatically transfered for all members without any consent from the individual customer to a new destination server. This is what I was referring to. They have every right to be torqued just as all other people who are stuck on dead servers have the right to be. At launch with plenty of preparation to place guilds on servers with clean slates... yeah I could see this being an easy process... people mentioned that it had been done on the test server too in the past.... yeah I could see that being an easy process simply because the amount of people participating on the PTS. Six months down the road to even expect something of this nature to be done on the large scale that it has to be done is just silly. There are too many variables and when you consider that individual players wishes wouldn't be considered if a guild was uprooted and transfered automatically to a new destination... it'd be just be nuts. Also take into consideration that the amount of time it would take to refine a process like that properly and we'd be looking at transfers happening much much later than 6/12/12 trust me on that. Time is of the essence and this is a BASIC step to fix the population issue that has been only getting worse in the past few months. While it won't magically fix everything, expecting anything more than a BASIC transfer is simply asking too much considering where we are at and the pace things get done around here.

The only way this could affect my game play is in the 10-49 warzones. I'm wondering if F2P players will be able to queue and if so... can they even reply to ops chat? Besides that I could care less that the free weekends have morphed into a free month to level 15.

No one knew it'd be this bad six months in (most servers are dead... little choice to the matter), Hell I almost re-rolled on to... what's now a dead server and I began on a early access server that had an amazing population up until around March. That is what this BASIC transfer system is going to be for. People who are on dead servers and can not enjoy an MMO experience anymore. There are a lot of reasons it has come to this.. which I don't care to debate here but you're not understanding the point of my comment. I'm talking about people who feel they should be able to combine all their characters on to one server after they made the choice to re-roll. I'm talking about the people upset that guilds can't be transfered all together. I'm talking about the people that want to change the type of server they chose back in December. Maybe in the future, but as of now we're getting a pretty BASIC and much needed round of transfers to spread our population out amongst the servers better. That's all folks.

Does it matter? They've clarified a few misconceptions but they're doing what they can do right now. It's not pretty by any means but perhaps people should just wait for more details next Tuesday. Bottom line - If you're on a dead server now, you will have the ability to move on to a populated server... it's all I care about after the awful pvp queues I've had to endure since D3 came out. There seems to be posters who clearly can not read and spew uninformed assumptions as fact. There also seems to be people who just don't get a lot of things and feel entitled to ridiculous over the top transfer features of convenience for the errors or choices they've made.

If you really did, you'd be a bit more knowledgeable on the topic and be able to answer your own questions.

From Joveth to you page 114 This part below implies that won't be the case. Please note that we will not be dividing the population of an origin server onto multiple destination servers for this free character transfer process.