Curious. Just tested it out. Made sure the enemies had shields above their heads. Stayed behind the cover, ate every single attack thrown at me. So what's up Bioware? Working as intended?

In pve cover is great, in pvp portable cover is worthless. Unless you are hunkered down, all cc work, knock back works, pretty everything works including people shooting me except for charge / pull, but it's not like it matters cause running up to someone in cover is super easy. I am not having that much difficulty in 1v1'ing people so it's not really that I just feel like the cover mechanic itself... doesn't really do what it's supposed to.

Whoa now take it easy. SWTOR will never be considered a pvp game. It will always be a game with some pvp in it.

It actually is that easy. The Bioware pvp team just like the Trion pvp team had no idea what they were doing and both failed at pvp in their respective games. This is what happens when you don't hire pvp'ers to run your pvp.

Yeah this is why the development team for Bioware is fail. There are actually ways to counter faction imbalance with choke points, and defensible positions. Gabe Amatagenlo failed at both map design and system implementation.

Cause Gabe Amatangelo is the Lead End Game Designer. That's why. He's the guy in charge of raiding and pvp, and guess what takes priority? I mean this is the same guy that thought designing ilum was a good idea to have a large field with no choke points or defensible positions.

With the majority of this game being solo, or 4 man content, unless you're part of a gaming community (multiple games) why would you bother wasting your time in a guild in SWTOR? Everything is puggable. Every raid is puggable. And the rest of the content you don't even need to be organized for.

Yeah this thread is why game companies quality is going down hill. Fans will forgive and praise anything that is released bugs and system failures and all. It's like Bioware crapped in your hand and you thanked them for the warm fudge.

Dear Mr. Amatangelo. Stop embarrassing yourself. Ty. Pvp fan.

Then why did people have fun in Tarren Mill, but not on Ilum when they are essentially the same thing?

Are you having fun on Ilum?

Has Bioware even heard of a choke point?

That's all ilum is. There is no hunting, there is no objectives, there is no point. You go, you kill from one base to the other pushing or falling back to your guards. The objectives are pointless and indefensible. When you take a base you can't defend it, you just end up getting pushed or pushing to or from one base or the other. Ad nauseum. I know that Gabe Amatangelo is new to game development and has had no previous pvp development experience, but you would have thought that after 17 years of gaming experience he would have at least understood that when you make a world pvp objective based game, you need to have defensible positions. Even adding a couple turrets per objective would help out a bit. It's like no one on the entire bioaware staff ever played AV... ever.

Ilum is beyond hope unless they hire a real pvp team. Not the "most experienced pvp team in the world" but people that are good at pvp. I'm the most experienced crapper in the world, doesn't mean I should design toilets.

I heard only the other side can ever have tanks and your side isn't allowed to have tanks.

Guard is putting through full damage. Stop guarding people and you'll be fine. I just figured it out. Was doing my normal tanking thing and noticed when you guard someone you get max damage throughput.

The only selling point for this game IS the story. That's it. Every single other facet of SWTOR is a failure, and they just failed at the ending? Why would Daniel Erickson allow this? People are supposed to be excited to level another toon. People honestly got to their ending of their character, and decided to level another toon? Why?!?

The Trooper story ending is SO bad, I could not possibly want to invest in another toon to waste the time for another bad ending. Please tell me that some other class has an ending that is worth doing because the epicness of the trooper story was balanced out by the failure of the trooper ending.

After we switched to republic I noticed leveling up that there are in fact lots of shared questing areas especially on Voss, and Tatooine, but normally not till after you're past the point of your basic story quest. So if you're doing the bonus series and such you run into the other faction quite a bit.

I'm on my republic character and I've noticed over the past couple planets... most all the world quests are given by aliens... that don't speak english, and they all sound like the same voice actor ran through an auto-tuner.

Spot on, but in reverse. It's like they put a home theatre surround sound system in a crack shack and gave us milk cartons to sit on to watch it.

Honestly though, I'm not surprised at all. I knew before I bought the game it was only going to be a filler, I also knew that it was going to be KOTOR 3 leveling, with a WOW end game. While I had a little bit of hope the PVP wouldn't suck this bad, I at least gave them the benefit of the doubt. And what this game taught me, is that companies brag about what's good. Bioware kept pretty much everything about pvp a 100% secret, giving virtually no information or sparse information. So there you have it. It's a single player RPG with MMO tacked on. They ran down a check list, and hit everything on that checklist, poorly, except for story.

GW2 Press Beta Feburary 20th, Massive Beta in March. SWTOR is about to get schooled so hard in so many areas of MMO I honestly can't wait.

It seems like Bioware made the greatest game ever, but forgot the MMO part. Everything in the game with the exception of what... 2 raids? Is geared towards no more than 4 people, and that's pushing it considering most of the content doesn't even need 4 people. Where is the MMO part?

Hey nothing is stopping everyone else from getting a naga