Well, put! I've seen this growing worse ever since F2P.... When I see a player in a Flashpoint without a Legacy name these days it's fills me full of dread. You just know what's going to happen.... need I say more? I understand the need to get some new blood.. but the f2p model is just not Flashpoint friendly. I hate to say it, but can we please have a similar/same system as most other MMOs, or even WoW...... THe only issues I see, is that you would not be able to roll on companion loot if every one passes or greeds... which also bring me to those that need for their companion, even when there's a class that needs it on the group!

I love vanilla

Welcome to a single player game trying to be an MMO.. I could never understand, when I first join SWTOR, I had to queue for ages.. then when I got in there was no one around?! Yeah yeah, all zones are instanced, but still!! I've been playing Rift and WoW again.. due to my MASSIVE dissapointment with SWTOR.. you know they are supposed to be dead now...??? I've seen more people on those two games in the past two days that I saw on TOR in like a month from launch! I decided (as I've got loads of 85s on WoW) that i'd start a mage on a different server... the starting area had loads running around! You really feel part of something when you see other peopel questing away around you, it adds to the emmersion.

Yeah that I must say was the one of the top 5 things I loved about SWTOR... do you thikn those farmers knew something??

It's just the sad state of the gaming community in general. Many gamers spend their lives shacked up in their rooms, with little, if no day light at all. They become introverted, in their own selfish epocs... i find it funny, when you spend ages grouping for an instance, for someone to say 'Am only here for xxxx, so lets make this quick!'.. or they simply get their Item and then AFK/Log off!!! I seem to forget I pay to play a game for other peoples pleasure and not my own... Don't worry due to costs of maintaining Servers, BW will merge realms soon enough. They are just waiting for the fallout to settle before doing so. I think they also need to get rid of the instanced zones, they are so EQ2!! This will also make zones look a lot fuller....

I want a true Star Wars MMO.. massive, not linear... not something trying to be something it ain't! Star Wars MMO please!!

If you read general chat in Rift, you'd hear it differently. People hated TOR that much they went back to Rift. They have pointed out how Linear the game is, small, tunnel driven and so on.. they even said like I do, TOR is not like a true open world/galaxy MMO. Rift is much better than SWTOR, so is WoW.. I said I'd never go back to WoW!! So I patched it up the other night and started a brand new char on another server.... Diablo3 or GW3 for me.. but until then, WoW it is.. at least I can venture where I want, pretty much level where I want... and so on!! Don't get me wrong, the comcept of being able to play a Star Wars MMO excites me, but not in it's current state.. still hanging here to see what they are going to do to bring this game truely into the MMORPG genre.. i need full emmersion into a Star Wars universe/galaxy.. not a single player game, with some online elements.

Most of the game is tunnel driven, very cleverly in places, but very linear tunnel driven... no openness at all....... linear, boring, boring...boring

NO chance! 1) Way to linear to be an MMO 2) worlds are way to small and instanced, not to mention you are tunnelled around 3) environments are static, so no real immersion 4) PvP - lol! 5) Space - ermm... hello?! BW really need to go back to the drawing board imo. SWG was a very good game for it's time, well, until the stupid changes! I would hae built upon SWG and took itto the next level. BW should have also looked at other MMOs out their, for me a new MMO has to beat it's competition. The only way to achieve this is to do what they do, but do it better....... The game has great potential but not in it's current form. Sorry.

Nope for now

Personally, when this game was launched we had to Q for ages, on a couple of servers.. then they increased the Pop size... now that people have left, or continue to leave.. it makes sense as a company to reduce the number of overheads and servers is one of them so this serves two purposes. 1) cost cutting for BW 2) increase population by merging servers, due to the drop in subs. Personally, they also need to remove this instancing of zones.. I ran around many zones thinking I was the only one. Which made me feel like I was playing a single player game. When in real terms people where in my zone (Hutta for instance) but in a different insance. However, the numebr where still low. The sad truth is, that this game just has not lived upto people expectations, and that's why people are leaving. I've been on Rift and the chat is full of how bad TOR is... same on WoW.... simple facts that relate to the issue that bring BW to merge servers. I'm a great fan of SW and have been sinse I was a nipper (kid). I think TOR is a good game, but it's not what I'd expect from an MMO, nor is it what I'd class as an MMO:confused:.

I said i'd never go back to WoW....... playing Rift atm, but, patched up WoW last night... realy fighting the urge not to go back to WoW.. but nothing else, grabs me...... might start fresh on another WoW server and do it all from scratch

Yeah, SW:TOR is like getting in your car (assuming you can drive ) driving down the road, going basically where the road leads you. Not having the freedom to turn off down a side street when it suits you. Only to get to a 'T' junction, and given a choice of left or right..... ummmm.. both turns bring me to the same place.... Feels like being on one of the tour buses, I was on once in Paris, after an hour I said to our lass 'Get up we're getting of to explore on our own', 'I hate being taken where the driver takes us....' SWG was awesome for it's time.. pre Jedi village.. best commnity ever.... and good emmersion. Hope Tera or GW2 delivers!

Yes, but from an "MMO"???? You should have stuck with Skyrim, and saved yourself money each month.. or payed a few quid for KOTOR.... (hope BW don't find this post unappropriate and mail me a complaning mail again )

But as a Single Playeer game you love the content?? We all did, but we wanted to be immersed into a Massive Star Wars MMO..

Wow! You basically summed up what i've been driving at for ages!! Linear, static, hollow, single player... blah! blah!! Thank you for putting this into words I could not. I always remember the first time I stepped out into Mos eisley on SWG! People running around, chatting, laughing.. Blaster fire sounds in the distance, as some got on with some missions... then, wow!! Was that someone on a Bantha MOUNT!!!?? I want one!! It felt instantly as I'd just gone to bed and woke up in my dream and I was in Star Wars!! Now that what's I call emmersion, a true MMO.. not a linear SP game with some online content.. in a boring static environment BW please don't send me another mail warning me about my posts... it's ridiculous, or are you scared of the truth????????!

NO.. It's to linear, flat, tunnelled.. feel like I'm playing a single player game... well, that's until I got ganked by 3 players.... I'm watching, hoping for some improvements.............. *checks watch*

Linear, flat, tunnelled.... KOTOR with online content.....

I can always remember the first time I stepped out of the starport on Tattooine, on SWG... it was so emersive.. people running around, chatting.. things moving, people fighting.. blaster fire wizzing by.... it was simply amazing! Ohhh! Was that someone on Bantha?!! Oooooo! A Speeder!! I fealt like I'd just woke up in some kind of, ermmm?! STAR WARS game!!

Someone mentioned that Blizzard are worried.. I don't think so, they are already working on their next 'MMORPG' and futuristic one.. my bet 'Starcraft universe', being as Warcraft had a massive following, so did WoW.. so why not coin in on Starcraft lore?

A non-linear massive open world game, one where you are not tunnelled down any given path, freedom to wander. freedom to level where you want. I've played many MMORPGs (age will remain anon! ).. and to be honest. They have never felt Linear, tunnel driven, static... my List include (SWG, EQ2, WoW, Conan, Vanguard, Rift.....).. whilst I've played these I've always felt as though I’ve been part of something big, real.... I can walk out of Stormwind.. walk straight through Childville (or whatever it's called.. it's been so long I forget it's name....), carry on across the fields and over a river. Now this is where it gets tricky... dodge the highish level wolves n spiders, and so on... but it's safer to go left or right... it's just open to explore.... Same with Rift, EQ2, SWG...... I remember, starting WoW in the good old Vanilla days and me and my mate would dare to explore as far as we could. It seemed endless, off the beaten track and all! TOR gives the impression of openness, but it's not... people see an MMO as an escape to there normal lives, to exist in a seamless world/universe/Galaxy... I mean come on the planets are that small I did em in no time.... Alderan was a little more open granted, and Hoth.. but most others are way to small, I felt like I was wearing blinkers, and guided down each path.. I wanted to explore, discover.. be adventurous.. It felt like I was in a shoe box and wanted to punch the sides out!! I felt claustrophobic! Space? Don’t make me larf!! Granted the general MMO definition is: MMO 1.(online gaming) A massively multiplayer online game. A computer game in which a large number of players can simultaneously interact in a persistent world. 2.(colloquial) A massively multiplayer online role-playing game. But it's in my view loosley based on what most people generaly expect from an MMO, true MMO that is. Visually SWTOR is superb, if not static. But it's not a true open world mmo... perhaps later things'll change. I do like the game as well, but itbasically KOTOR3 with some online play.. a bit like ermmm Battlefield 3, ermmm MW3.... and so on. So yeah for the not so fussy, I suppose it's a little like an MMO.... If you played some of those above mentioned MMOs you'd get what, I'm failing to get at...

Or possibly they have lowered the Population size on the servers to give a false representaion of numbers?? I know initially they had to increase it as there was an influx of people trying the game out, so the queues where jsut stupid... but now people have left in dissapointement, they have no need for the population size, so it makes sence to lower this cap?? just a thought? I think it'll take a lot more than 1.2 to bring me back, the game is just to linear. The zones/worlds are WAY to small, and very channelled. I think BW should do away with the area zoning too, this might make it look busier?? This isn't the MMO you're looking for.... oh, it's not an MMO.. that's ok then

I played for a month, forgot to cancel and ended up paying subs for another month, but stopped playing. Went to play an MMO instead of this Linear piece of.... bahh! That's harsh, it's ok for a linear game, it's jsut that it's not an MMO. Prays for GW2... so back to playing Rift and having loads of fun! Glad I got a new PC, to play it, in it's full glory.. pretty much why I left rift in the first place due to my crappy machine... but now!! fun times!!

I didn't give it that long, I'm on Rift... and to be honest, I'm loving it. But yeah, I'm not holding my breath, but GW2 for me too. I was so excited I wet myself, when they announced TOR. I was thinking SWG++ but, like so many times before, so let down. TOR is a great single player game, but that's it.. and that's what they should have plugged it as.... KOTOR 3 with some online bits... a bit like BF3 I suppose??

You nailed it when you said other MMORPGs, they are true NON-LINEAR MMOs.. nuff said