Bit unfair to say it's bad, I think it's great.. but it's just not an MMO.. not even close I mean when you come from games like SWG, EQ2, WoW, Rift and so on... these's are true MMOs... TOR isn't

Yeah, but it's the first Linear online game they've made, which is also awesome.. pity they dubbed it as an MMO eh??

Well, obvioulsy you don't. So Linear means: (In, of, describing, described by, or related to a straight line.) No depth or freedom to roam, tunnelled, channelled... I refer to non-openess, freedom to roam, not channelled around the small world maps. Also idf this helps, I refer to the game being very Single Player looking and feeling, having played many true MMOs, I prety much understand the difference in Linear/non-linear... hope this helps??

Yep as a single player game, with it's linear world design, it's awesome.. as an MMO????! It's NOT an MMO imo.. But great SP game with some online content BIG THUMBS UP

I'm realy glad there's a minority who are fan boys and love this game, out an out... I love the game, but not to their extent I also hate trolls as I don't think it's that bad a game. However, SWTOR is dubbed and sold as an MMO, which it's not. Other than, you are playing a KOTOR in an MMO guise as there are other players in your game.... Great story lines must admit. However: 1. It's way to linear for an MMO. No real open vastness I'd like, which you'd expectfrom an MMO 2. The planets are way to small, they don't even feel like planets - infact you are channeled around maps (or tunnelled on city planets) 3. No real exploration - due to linear maps and gameplay 4. Everywhere seems to be far to static no real depth 5. No day night cycles..... 6. Space is a joke.. there should have been a proffesion here starship builder.... etc... 7. and so on... I've played loads of MMOs and they've been vastly open, non-linear, amongst other things... In TOR I really don't feel like I'm playing an MMO, until I get gang ganked whilst questing.. which serves to remind me that there are indeed other players out there.... this happens on many serves... but such is life.... Sorry, I do love the game but to sell this as an MMO is false in my opinion, a great single player game, even better than KOTOR, but they should have just sold it as KOTOR2 with friends... True MMOs should be ground breaking and strive to better their competitors. I don't rush home from work all excited to play like I did other MMOs... sorry, I know MANY others who feel the same, sadly. I'll pop on from time to time, to see if there's any improvements. But I'm cancelling my Sub after this month until then.. so, to find something else to entertain me...

I know PvP is a general joke in my opinion... However, the combat lag is stupid!! It makes PvP unplayable...

CryEngine is a very well established engine.....

No lag at all from day one to be honest, and I'm running two Nvidia 550 ti's... 8gig ram... AMD Phenom II Not one bit of lag, I feel like I'm missing out... Perhaps your lag issues is at your end, thereseems to be a miniority suffering lag, which would suggest it's peoples rigs or conectivity? just my ten bobs worth.. or if you're a yank, cents

God! Yeah! WoW was abslolutely rubbish for a few months, most of the time the LAG was so bad in IF you could go an put kettle on and make a cuppa till your char moved.... seriously.... it took Blizz ages to sort those issues out... the rubberbanding was soooo funny. My FPS in SWTOR is far better on my monster PC than it is in WoW.. WoW doesn't handle SLI it seems....

Hey! I want one of those!

Yeah, WoW was like that in the begining, no chat bubbles..... I've played loads too and although I'm generally enjoying it, I don't think it feels like an MMO.. more like KOTOR with an online wrapper. It feels very linear and static (mobs stood around...... etc..) Worlds seem more like little islands, no real exploration.... Perhaps this is the point for the stroyline, until you get to 50 with your char. Then later new planets come which will be more open?? I dunno. Space is a bit of a joke atm, but feels it has potential.. I wish the planets had just been a little bigger, open, etc... I hate Linear games! I wish I had a choice to what planet I started on..... I do love the game, but I don't think it'll keep me hooked as long as SWG (pre-NGE) or WoW did *shrugs* Hope GW2 lives up...... or something big happens here. But if not Diablo 3 (if it ever gets released) until Guild Wars 2

Do you want a Kung Fu Ewok?

Nice read... and agree totally, I'm just not a DMG Meter and GS fan... It leads to the darkside

I thought there was something strangely wrong with my boxers this morning, thanks bud... went to loo and corrected *sits more comfortably* Yawns..... goes back to work and watches the clock, till log in time... love Pro-gaming... love using my brain....

God! Did I just waste 10 mins of my life to read this crock of....... oh well.

I suppose you'll want a two button system soon too?? 1121122111121111 iWin!

Rubbish! Have you ever played any other MMO other than WoW?? Mods have no correlation to bosses or any game play at all, they serve as data/information gathering. Making gamers idle, and less skillful. Kids want MODS (DMG Meters and Gear Score) to boast to their school mates and to ridcule other, making them feel better and more superior than others.... Real gamers don't want a game to become that easy they can sleep whilst they play. MOD fans just prefer an easy life, without the need to think for themselves. MODS are game killers! Although, I did find Deadly Boss Mod useful.. I'm just very Anti-DMG Meters and Gearscore.

I think this would be good for a PvP type game... if the mechanics can be worked out.

nope, you just want to boast.. and be an elitist... I rest my case. Your honour?

Ahhh, the force is strong with this one.... Excellent idea!!

Then, learn the fight, like we had to in ALL MMOs before any such addons..... CALL YOUrSELF A PRO PLAYER... pffff! I wouldn't trust you in any of my raids. Learn to play! Be aware of your situation, your environment... or would you prefer someone to hold your hand?? Sorry, not flaming you, you are just trying to take the fun out of the game... WoW Had major excitment in the vanilla days during raiding, before elitism and addons... then when you got all these addons, you didn't have to think anymore... I know in the heat of battle, sometimes you forget a signal that a boss is about to do something, so to some extent a DBM would be good.. but we are talking about a DMG Meter here, not a DBM. Through experience, you know what rotation to use as you've used it during Levelling.... just learn your calss and certain situations... lifes a learning curve, I don't need an addon to tell me when it's safe to cross the road... I look and listen Or, I use a crossing addon... DOH!!

*sigh* Why not, are you wanting to take the fun out of the game?? Just DO YOUR JOB and enjoy the game... I prefer experienced gamers rather than, ****!! Yo DPS is wink. plz kickzors him... getz us anover DPS.... please!! DMG Meters will open up a MASSIVE can of worms.. trust me, lok at what it did for WOW!

Errrmmmm, yeah, kind of.. ermm, ok.... i think... 'Scratches head' I hated quantum physics, perhaps Dr Brian Cox could enlighten us on your response?

I think personally, as long as you and your group are being kept alive and the fights going well, than ALL is well.... Ahh, the fun of the game... reminds me of early WoW and BWL and MC.... epic fights, but we all survived'ish... then they made it a pew pew game and ruined it... i hate those Quick runs through instances... I feel like have a good sesh, when I've had a epic battle, and not cheated after a quick 30 min run through. But seriously, just go with it and do your job.. that to me is more important.

It's not for themselves, it's so they can judge/ridicule other players.. it's a wow elitism/egotystical thing...... I personally hope, many things from WoW are NOT introduced into this game.. or it's GW2 for me