I'm sorry....did you want to date the hologram? Hey OP, remember when you said this post would get deleted because they won't like you saying they lied....since it hasn't been deleted, could you stop lying about BW lying?

Yeah, the elevator thing got me as well. The only thing I could come up with is highly pressurized air to push against the walls and prevent it from being crushed. Though that theory has a number of flaws in it as well. Maybe there is giant fans blowing downward the break up the pressure around the elevators? I don't know, it's no sillier then alot of other things seen in the series.

Similar thing happened in my Jugg storyline....they only showed Quinn and Peirce though...who says SGR isn't in the game Or as an alternative joke....don't ask don't tell?

umm, I'd have to say the Colicoids... what? OH! that's not what you meant....sorry, my bad.

Now that I've gotten my two not so serious posts out of the way OP, great write up. I came into it expecting another "OMG, PVP sux" type post and what I got was a well written and thought out explaining problems and offering suggestions. Bravo to you sir (or ma'am). As to your points....well, I hate Ilum. I've had the same weekly for over a month now. Making it into a que'able warzone...is actually a really good suggestion. If there is a petition for this, (and adding Tat in there too) then consider my name signed. Medals for objectives. Besides what others have pointed out about Huttball players trying to tank for the score, I agree. Not necesarrily multiple medals for the objective, but at least one. I remember how suprised I was when I finally capped a turret in Civil War and got nothing. The counter to this is actually what BW is implementing, only the first four medals count toward valor and comms. Four medals is incredibly easy to get, on nearly any class and the rest not counting should stop medal farmers from not playing to the objectives. Tab targeting....yeah, this needs to be looked at. If I have to hit Tab multiple times to try and find a target the system isn't working. Let me correct that. If I have two or less targets in tab range, the system is fine. Otherwise...not so much. I'll be honest, I am unsure of what you mean by the attack delay's. You fire an ability and before the animation hits the target (and thus the effect of the ability) you fire a faster ability and the second one takes effect first? I actually have no problem with the GCD. It took a little while to get used to, but now that I have, I hardly notice it. *shrug* that might just be my over stimulated brain...seriously, when I play I have coffee, mt dew, amp energy drinks....sometimes all at once...what? pvp is srs class balance? might need some tweeking here and there, (sorc's I'm looking at you ) but I agree...it is fairly well balanced from what I've seen. Which is only like four classes...so ymmv now the gear....yeah, for like the first month of 50 PVP on my Jugg, I swear the teams were carrying me. I really felt like I could not contribute. Now that I have mostly champ gear with the rest being cent (so close to valor rank 50...so close) I feel like I aid my team alot more. When my BH get's to 50, I'll get to do it all over again...so, month of feeling useless then finally helping. Jugg and BH....yeah, I like Tanks. I've got a Guardian on reppie side too...does that suprise ya?

....../seflfacepalm no...no I have not found that one....*sigh* I know the first thing I'm doing in the morning when I get home now

......so that's why when I said "good fight" after getting roflstomped you responded "meow"?

the big thing that made me stop playing.... I had to go to work.

as long as we don't have to visit unblinking teddy bears who use rocks to defeat armor wearing super trained commando's..... what? a legion of my best my.....*trails off muttering*

Umm, thinking outside the box here, it's possible you had an extremely unlucky run with the RNG. Juggs are defense based, not resist based so when you get hit you are going to take more damage then the Powertech's will. Of course, I'm working on the assumption that you know how to play the class and when to use your cooldowns and how to equip/mod your armor.

I am going to preface this with the fact that my Jugg is my favorite. I have an immortal Jugg and a Shield PT. Both mostly tank skill trees. My experiance from my time playing them is that.... DPS wise, the BH is far better. And yes, this is with the tank spec so take that as you will. I don't know about the comparisions between the DPS specs, but if they follow suit then BH will again be better. It is unfortunite but true

thread like this persist because people feel that since they are not enjoying the game, then obviously it is the game that is flawed and not them. Their opinions are the only ones that count and the rest of us are just to slow to realize we should be worshipping the ground they walk on because they are the second coming of Bobby Kotick. To the OP, and you can quote me on this: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH11!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111!!!!!!!!!!!! You don't like the game, I'm sorry. Not everyone will. It happens. To say yours are the only opinions that matter however, well, no. I like the game. It will keep me subscribed for quite a long time. So, in closing, farewell, enjoy which ever game you choose to go to, and thanks for all the fish.

Ok, I would definitely be in favor of that. Right now my biggest hurdle is finding a group (I trust) to help me kill a world boss or two for the magenta crystal schematic. My guild is small (but fun) and it's hard to get people online at a time to get these world bosses dropped, and then to do it however many times is necessary to get the schematic. A quest that required me to travel from Dromund Kaas to Tat to Alderaan to Korriban to Correllia to Taris to Belsavis to Hoth with two or three missions on each planet would actually be ok for me. Alright, I'm exgerating the length a little

it's frustrating, believe me I know...400 Artifice here, you think there is ever ANYTHING on the GTN for me?....but it's still a background task that requires very little interaction on your part every 30 minutes to 1 hour while you are able to do other things. Heck, you can even sell the recipe's you don't need and make a little extra bling bling (I'm sorry...I have no idea why I used that term). Unless you aren't really upset with the system and are just venting. If that is the case, I apologize, I know how sometimes venting your frustrations can help.

how is the RNG being tied to a MOB different from the RNG being tied to a Mission? If you had been farming this monster for a month and the RNG hadn't rewarded you with the schematic, that would be ok because you got to fight a monster over and over and over to the exclusion of everything else? Instead, you get to go out and explore/quest/fight/pvp/whatever while your companions farm for the mission for you and this is the worse system? Please explain the difference, I is con-fuse-ed.

I can see Han and Leia dying from old age, I just don't believe Luke will. I will be very suprised if makes it through this book. Yoda's race was unique and long lived but even he, when told by Luke he couldn't die, responded, "Strong am I in the Force, but not that strong"

Well, oh genius of the internets, why don't you inform us of what excately a good game is then? Was it SWG? Is it WoW? Maybe you are in the EVE crowd? Free Realms? Hello Kitty Online? Please, use your vast knowledge of everything that is right online and enlighten us. If your couldn't tell, I was being sarcastic. Your opinion, no matter how strongly you believe it, is yours. Mine is different. This game is fun for me, yes even at end game. I'm sorry you are not enjoying it but trying to force your opinion on others by insulting their intelligence is not going to change their mind. In fact, it usually only has the effect of making people want to ignore you. Also, my idea of fine dining is somewhere I have to wear a suit and tie to enter and hand over one hundred dollars for the appitizer. Does that make my opinion right? Nope, sorry.

You do realize that would make him apx 155 years old right?

Old age? Nah, in Troy Denning's book Apocalypse (or what ever the last Fate of the Jedi book is) he will sacrifice himself to defeat Aboleth. At least that's the feeling I get from reading the series, a big change for the jedi and etc.

Here's another one for ya, the AoE ability that reduces movement by 50%, add an increased threat component for it. Would give Guards/Juggs another AoE threat builder and have no bearing on PVP. I had posted that in a thread in the Jugg forums. Again though, in PVE I don't ever really have a problem with Focus/Rage generation. Though I would like a skill or ability that reduces the cooldown on my taunt...that would be great.

Seriously? No really, seriously? You are complaining that if you get stunned next to a group of enemies and they all attack you, you die? How is that "not fair"? EVERYONE has that problem. Do you know how many times I've been stunned and zerg'ed? It happens, deal with it. You take the stuns out of this game and you seriously weaken alot of other classes who rely on those stuns to survive. Take them out and all that you are left with is Mauraders and Sentinals battling it out deathmatch style under the cover of Alderraan's middle turret. And before you think I'm just defending my class, think again. Immortal specced Jugg here.

I can understand that, lore aspect and all....but then again a lightsaber is supposed to cut through anything except another lightsaber and cortosis.... Sticking with the lore is all well and good except when it causes an imbalance in the game. Yes, I know...my Guardian is only 29...bite me, I've got a 50 Jugg defense specced. I may not know all the terms, but I do know the mechanics. OP, right now in PVP you are fighting against a random collection of levels where everyone is buffed to be the same. Makes it fair, fun, and viable. (opinion...your's may vary) PVP at these levels would not a good estimation of the class's abilities. PVE on the other hand.... I leveled up a BH tank, because I'm stubborn and refused to believe the forum posting stating they were better tanks then my Jugg. Figured I'd see for myself. I won't say they are better...but they are easier. In my opinion (again, your's may vary) the problem isn't Focus/Rage generation or consumption, it's mobility and range with mitigation thrown in. Guards/Juggs are the Defense tanks, were supposed to not get hit. Problem with that is defense soft caps and random number generators. Sometimes, the mobs will always miss. Sometimes, they will never miss. When the numbers go against us however, we lack the mitigation to survive longer then our counterparts. Oh, did I mention that the weakness of Defense is opponents Accuracy? Did you know HM and OP bosses have a much higher base Accuracy which means they hit us more often? But what about the mobility and range issue....well, we have one ranged attack (read outside of 10 meters) and an ability to get an enemy via strong legs (read jumping) Neither of these abilities can be spammed. Our multi target taunt has a very small radius. Many of the enemies in this game are ranged in nature. To effectively collect all of them (gotta catch em all) requires alot more running around than our meatshield counterparts, not to mention we have no real defense or mitigation against slows. (I know, we have a break free ability, but I tend to save mine for when something has completely held me, not made it so I walk slower but can still hit things)

actually...Voidstar is my favorite warzone. I'm a 50 Jugg, Immortal spec. Not the cookie cutter one..I like being different. Voidstar is where I usually get the most medals, followed by Alderaan then finally Hutball. For some reason, I get zerg'd in Huttball alot. On an unrelated note, I was fighting a Guardian on the bridge in Voidstar and we had an Aniken/Obiwan moment where we both used our Force Push ability...both of us went flying off the sides of the bridge...I laughed so hard, I almost got the deserter boot. On a related note, I do find Voidstar to be melee friendly, mainly because you have to get close to doors/terminals to achieve "objectives" which is where the melee forces are.

your opinion, not mine. Personally I like the warzones. Opinions are fun

Chewie's death, was awesome and poignent and did shatter the "hero's are immune to death" shield that was around the characters. Anakin Solo's death was a hero dying to save his friends (I still think there could have been a way around it, but hey). Just my ideas *shrug*