Helpfull idea to combat inflation

[Tharandil]

I'm a loyal player from the first hour but the state of inflation in SWTOR is without a doubt painful to watch. For example a lot of cartel armor sets and augments are no longer sold directly through the GTN.

How about we implement alliance crates that we buy with credits as a creditdump. A lot of players have multiple alts, I bet not all alts have an alliance base that's maxed out. Not to mention the fact that we can get remnant armor sets from said crates. For example we could buy the crates for about 1 million credits each. You'd still give players the option to grind for them through heroic missions but this we actually have a decent credit dump to hopefully combat the hyperinflation. 

Thank you

[ZUHFB]

1 Million Credits? This wouldn't even make a dent in the current inflation. A black black dye costs 2 billion.

[Setta]

I think they should bring back amplifiers for a credit sink.  I'm honestly not sure why they took it away.  It easily began to add up with all the rerolls.

[Achnaattwo]

Just get rid of the GTN and Trade 🚮

[TyrFoge]

3 hours ago, Achnaattwo said:

Just get rid of the GTN and Trade 🚮

Unfortunately you are probably partially correct here. I think the only way inflation will ever get significantly dealt with is to eliminate the ability to mail and trade items from player to player forcing things on the GTN with it's credit limits. Not a great solution.

[Tharandil]

It would take you 80 alliance crates per specialist to fully level them to 20. 
80 crates * 4 specialists * 1 million credits = 320 million credits per alt. 
a lot of players have multiple alts but not everyone has over 4-5 billion credits to spare.  I thought a million would be reasonable for that reason. Feel free to tweak the price further if you like, anyway it’s just an idea.

[DeannaVoyager]

18 hours ago, Tharandil said:

I'm a loyal player from the first hour but the state of inflation in SWTOR is without a doubt painful to watch. For example a lot of cartel armor sets and augments are no longer sold directly through the GTN.

How about we implement alliance crates that we buy with credits as a creditdump. A lot of players have multiple alts, I bet not all alts have an alliance base that's maxed out. Not to mention the fact that we can get remnant armor sets from said crates. For example we could buy the crates for about 1 million credits each. You'd still give players the option to grind for them through heroic missions but this we actually have a decent credit dump to hopefully combat the hyperinflation. 

Thank you

Oh my....  I guess that would work for someone who really really wants those sets, but for people who got the sets ages ago, that wouldn't work. Those crates are piling up in my legacy cargo because getting rid of them takes too much time, especially now when you can't vendor those armor pieces anymore. 

 

How about just directly selling those armor pieces on a vendor?

I have all full sets stored on one alt's cargo bay. I have no intention to use cartel coins to unlock them in collections, and I'm also too lazy to check out that character's cargo every time I'm looking for a new outfit. However I might buy duplicates with credits, if they were available on a vendor.

[BRKMSN]

On 10/12/2022 at 1:01 AM, DeannaVoyager said:

I have all full sets stored on one alt's cargo bay. I have no intention to use cartel coins to unlock them in collections, and I'm also too lazy to check out that character's cargo every time I'm looking for a new outfit. However I might buy duplicates with credits, if they were available on a vendor.

If you have the full sets in a character's cargo hold, then they are already in collections for that character. You can delete them from your cargo hold and claim the full sets on that character whenever you need them. The sets bind to legacy and can be moved to another character. If you are just keeping them around to preview them, they can be previewed from any character by previewing armor sets in collections. In other words, there is no reason to use storage space unless the sets haven't yet been completely unlocked on at least one character.

[SteveTheCynic]

On 10/14/2022 at 2:17 AM, BRKMSN said:

If you have the full sets in a character's cargo hold, then they are already in collections for that character.

No, you have to simultaneously hold all pieces of a set in the inventory of a character for it to go into collections.  Merely collecting the pieces one at a time and stashing them in storage is not enough.

[DWho]

2 hours ago, SteveTheCynic said:

No, you have to simultaneously hold all pieces of a set in the inventory of a character for it to go into collections.  Merely collecting the pieces one at a time and stashing them in storage is not enough.

Additionally you have to put them on a character or companion at least once as a full set (which binds them to your legacy and makes the unsellable on the GTN at that point) unless they are already a bound to legacy set.

[BRKMSN]

4 hours ago, SteveTheCynic said:

No, you have to simultaneously hold all pieces of a set in the inventory of a character for it to go into collections.  Merely collecting the pieces one at a time and stashing them in storage is not enough.

It didn't seem to me like I had to hold all the pieces simultaneously on these sets. I was credited for individual pieces on incomplete sets and only had to acquire the missing pieces to complete the character unlock. I do believe they need to be in your inventory to get credit, but they can't be moved to a character's cargo hold unless they were at one time in the character's inventory. 

 

edit: to confirm this, I claimed a set from a character that had it unlocked, sent the set to another character that did not have it unlocked. I put the pieces in two separate mails. Claimed the first mail items and put them in the cargo hold. Checked collections and the set was still locked. Claimed the items from the other mail and checked collections and now the set is unlocked for the character. (I used two mails because my first attempt to mail the items to another character saw me habitually "claim all" and defeat the purpose of the test.)

1 hour ago, DWho said:

Additionally you have to put them on a character or companion at least once as a full set (which binds them to your legacy and makes the unsellable on the GTN at that point) unless they are already a bound to legacy set.

They weren't talking about Cartel Market sets. They are talking about the alliance crate armor sets which are already BoL which, as you note, don't need to be equipped.

Edited October 15, 2022 by BRKMSN

[DeannaVoyager]

On 10/14/2022 at 3:17 AM, BRKMSN said:

If you have the full sets in a character's cargo hold, then they are already in collections for that character. You can delete them from your cargo hold and claim the full sets on that character whenever you need them. The sets bind to legacy and can be moved to another character. If you are just keeping them around to preview them, they can be previewed from any character by previewing armor sets in collections. In other words, there is no reason to use storage space unless the sets haven't yet been completely unlocked on at least one character.

 

Yes, I've noticed they unlock them for free on any character that holds them, but there are way too many sets and I have way too many characters to do it, so I'm just storing them with one character in case I want to use them one day in the outfitter. 

[Nee-Elder]

On 10/12/2022 at 12:55 AM, Tharandil said:

 anyway it’s just an idea.

Just posting this other  'inflation' same topic thread  for the OP (and for BioWare, if they're reading)  to have as reference:  https://forums.swtor.com/topic/925339-fix-inflation-please

Edited October 15, 2022 by Nee-Elder

[SteveTheCynic]

2 hours ago, BRKMSN said:

It didn't seem to me like I had to hold all the pieces simultaneously on these sets. I was credited for individual pieces on incomplete sets and only had to acquire the missing pieces to complete the character unlock. I do believe they need to be in your inventory to get credit, but they can't be moved to a character's cargo hold unless they were at one time in the character's inventory. 

 

edit: to confirm this, I claimed a set from a character that had it unlocked, sent the set to another character that did not have it unlocked. I put the pieces in two separate mails. Claimed the first mail items and put them in the cargo hold. Checked collections and the set was still locked. Claimed the items from the other mail and checked collections and now the set is unlocked for the character. (I used two mails because my first attempt to mail the items to another character saw me habitually "claim all" and defeat the purpose of the test.)

They weren't talking about Cartel Market sets. They are talking about the alliance crate armor sets which are already BoL which, as you note, don't need to be equipped.

Huh.  OK, that's good to hear.  Maybe it's because I was doing it on a character who hadn't touched them since before they were made compatible with collections.

[BRKMSN]

2 hours ago, DeannaVoyager said:

 

Yes, I've noticed they unlock them for free on any character that holds them, but there are way too many sets and I have way too many characters to do it, so I'm just storing them with one character in case I want to use them one day in the outfitter. 

That's why I send all mine to one character so I know where to "claim" sets. I have no intention of unlocking them all on every character. But I don't want to waste storage on the stuff either. 

[HRBEK]

Like Nee-Elder, I'm just posting this thread I started as another reference regarding the same topic: https://forums.swtor.com/topic/925335-some-inflation-suggestions/#comment-9723547

Combatting the inflation is going to take a multi-prong approach, given how rampant it has become. There is plenty of overlap regarding the suggestions across the various threads devoted to this topic, but I think that just speaks to the urgency and the commonsense nature of many of the suggestions. The inflation doesn't bother the wealthy and established players nearly as much, but it does wonders for putting off newer and returning players. It's pretty much a mainstay amongst General Chat topics in-game.

It also boggles my mind that developers thought the measures in the recent expansion were going to put even the smallest dent in the inflationary trajectory of the game (some of the measures made things absolutely worse in a way virtually anyone could have anticipated; e.g., causing Flagship Encryption prices to double). Hopefully they revisit this issue, instead of thinking that it's already been 'addressed'.

[WHTJunior]

Novel idea: add a new category of bind, where all Cartel Market items come Bound to GTN, and can't be traded otherwise.

Granted, then you can't use them as rewards or giveaways for your events, but I feel like it's a small price to pay.

[benbdk]

It won't help all behaviours but there are definitely some CM items that massively add to the problem. 
Black Black dyes and Hypercrates just to mind. 

One fix fo rthe black black dye issue would be the LVMH solution, make them the same price as the cheapest CM purchase. It's counter intuitive but fashion companies work in a triangular model, most people by Louis Vuitton sunglasses and wallets etc, the cheap stuff, very very few buy the 20k custom wear. Making Black Black dyes the cheapest real $ purchase will probably massively increase sales and undercut the credit market after the billionares wipe the slate they won't be able to sell them for anywhere near as much. Increases real $ sales and undercuts the credit resale value in one hit.