Tactical Advantage / Upper Hand BS

[SilverWF]

Hello there

 

I wonder - will we ever get rid of such BS as Tactical Advantage (Upper Hand)?

 

Are we the only class in the game who need to have some sort of low stacked buff to even shoot?

 

Let's take assassin: I just go there and do things. Simple rotations, pretty often procs, TONS of damage.

 

Operative: complicated rotations, not much procs, SHOULD use precasts (like DOTs), still way lower damage compared to Sin.

 

Seriously, FFS - they dont see this mechanic is trash?

 

And even more: skills which require TA are not free! Yes, they consume energy, lol.

 

TLDR: TA is trash and should gone.

Edited February 26, 2022 by SilverWF

[Drokisannath]

Honestly upper hand is not so bad, it's the UI that does absolutely not support buffs and debuffs in a way that is readable. I don't see that changing in the next decade.

[SilverWF]

Dunno man, even if they will make buff info transferred directly to my brain - it doesn't fix the main problems:

complicated and repetitive rotations

weak damage

precasts

[kgaydos]

Took me awhile to figure out that when she giggles, I can use my skills.

Kinda like hearing that throaty chuckle

[meddani]

nice necro lol.

there was a time when TA/upper hand actually increased your dmg aswell, they should bring that back.

[ZUHFB]

48 minutes ago, meddani said:

nice necro lol.

there was a time when TA/upper hand actually increased your dmg aswell, they should bring that back.

it currently does, 5% per TA, on leth at least idk about conc

[AdjeYo]

11 hours ago, ZUHFB said:

it currently does, 5% per TA, on leth at least idk about conc

Not 5% per TA, that'd be frankly insane. It increases damage and healing by 5% if you have at least one TA. That version is available to Medicine. The Lethality version gets a bonus 5% crit chance as well. But it doesn't scale with more TA. Concealment gets neither version.

[meddani]

On 1/9/2023 at 7:04 AM, ZUHFB said:

it currently does, 5% per TA, on leth at least idk about conc

from launch til 3.0 it was 2% per stack iirc and for all specs.

[Skiritai]

Real bad mechanic, I have to basically stare at the tac advantage icon, since gaining them is so random at times, very hard to get a rhythm going. Sometimes you can hear the audible, but its a terrible way to play. Forget rotation, just waiting around for a "giggle", wasting time keying skills that don't fire, or wasted a builder. Just stare at the icon, forget watching game play, lol, weird.

[LD_Little_Dragon]

Have you reached max level yet? 

Levelling is annoying since pretty much all classes are energy/resource starved.

At max level gaining TA/UP isn't an issue for heals or dps once you learn the class.

[Tasaas]

 Corrosive Return

Effect: If Corrosive Assault would reduce your Tactical Advantage to 0, it is refunded instead. This effect cannot occur more than once every 10s. In addition, Stim Boost lasts 5s longer.

 

 

I use this to keep my Corrosive Assault going strong.   This is very usefull and noticeable.

[LD_Little_Dragon]

4 hours ago, Tasaas said:

 Corrosive Return

Effect: If Corrosive Assault would reduce your Tactical Advantage to 0, it is refunded instead. This effect cannot occur more than once every 10s. In addition, Stim Boost lasts 5s longer.

 

 

I use this to keep my Corrosive Assault going strong.   This is very usefull and noticeable.

^ this, you shouldn't have any energy/TA issues as lethality dps.

For heal spec just keep at least 2 sets of probes ticking at all times and you shouldn't have any problems.

[DarthSpekulatius]

On 4/24/2023 at 8:11 PM, Skiritai said:

Sometimes you can hear the audible, but its a terrible way to play.

sometimes = when you get your first Stack.

2nd and 3rd Stacks are without chuckle thanks to some complainers.

 

I couldn't play the Class anymore after they made that change and the funniest part is that Vanguards have the chuckle even though they unlike Scoundrels don't have Random procs (assuming no Commando/Merc Raidbuff, wich admittedly isn't random but might as well be).

leaving aside how much better Gameplay is with the Audible feedback, I also like the chuckle.

[LD_Little_Dragon]

Gameplay is fine without audible feedback.  

Personal preferences though.  Well, not an option for me, but still, you don't need that giggle to play operative.