UlaVii Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) One of my guild members ran into a new bug. They were on their Mercenary (Imperial) and picked Smuggler (Republic) for their 2nd combat style. At that point they had not completed Chapter 3 of the Smuggler story. They queued for GSF and started tweaking their new abilities. They got a GSF pop and completed the match. When they returned they were trapped on the opposite faction. We've run some tests: The Emergency Fleet pass takes them to Rep Fleet. They can read and write in Rep chat channels and others can see what is written. They still show up in our Imp guild roster but it shows them on Republic Fleet. They can't see what we write in guild chat. They can write in it although we can't see what they have written. They do see the "Guild Information" messages about people logging in/out etc. Trying to /w them results in red text stating they are not on our faction. Trying to invite them to group gets purple text stating they do not exist. They were able to visit our guild ship. Their nameplate was blue since it's a sanctuary but they did have a red ring around their avatar. Their nameplate shows them as a Gunslinger. When they used the "Exit To Fleet" option it took them back to Rep Fleet. They can't access their Mercenary starship or the Smuggler one. The option is grayed out. When they try to switch back to Mercenary with the Loadouts window it tells them that it's not possible. Looking at their chosen classes they only see Gunslinger and an empty spot. When they hover over that it tells them they must complete Chapter 3 to pick a 2nd class. Maybe it's something you have been working towards that snook into the live server a bit too early? Could be interesting as a character customisation and I do like the idea that Smugglers and Agents could move between both Fleets They have submitted an in-game ticket but I wanted to mention it in the forums as well in case it happens to more people. Community Team please help my guild member as they are kinda stuck in limbo since they can't interact with the rest of our guild in-game. Edit: It's happened to another guild member as well! Definitely different person/account. Edited February 17, 2022 by UlaVii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totemdancer Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 LMAO, And the whole time players have asked for this ability to swap factions, Bioware have said it’s technically not possible. 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pietrastor Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 So you're saying this may accidentaly lead to cross-faction guilds and cross-faction mechanics? best news ever I gotta try it out and hopefully it "bugs" for me too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharpenedstick Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 I'd say working as intended, but this was probably an inadvertent release of an upcoming cartel market item. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlaVii Posted February 17, 2022 Author Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) I've just seen that there are more people with same problem in this thread and this one. Edited February 17, 2022 by UlaVii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-Kaitou-Kid Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Thank you for posting this with such detailed info and screenshots, hopefully Bioware will see this and look into it. Hard to deny it's an issue now with so many people having ran into it and the screenshots you've got here. Losing access to your starship and not being able to heal players you're grouped with is kind of a big deal, so it really needs to be addressed even if it's just a PSA to stop switching combat styles until this is fixed. In the meantime, as I've asked in the other threads as well, can you check the sub status on these players? Are they recently resubbed or preferred/F2P? Another player mentioned they were able to create new characters that weren't affected by this issue and it was only their older characters that were affected, do you know if that's the case here as well? Sorry to bombard you with questions, I'm just hoping maybe if we gather some more information, Bioware will have an easier time figuring out what's actually going on here once they do start investigating it (if they haven't already). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanitorKane Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 This has happen to one of my characters as well. This isn't some fringe occurrence. Bioware really needs to acknowledge this and say something about getting it fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kylanna Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Note to self: do not pick an opposite faction class to play... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlaVii Posted February 17, 2022 Author Share Posted February 17, 2022 In the meantime, as I've asked in the other threads as well, can you check the sub status on these players? Are they recently resubbed or preferred/F2P? Another player mentioned they were able to create new characters that weren't affected by this issue and it was only their older characters that were affected, do you know if that's the case here as well? This affected both guild member's main characters that had been created well before patch 7. One is a sub and the other hasn't replied yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phalczen Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) This seems pretty game breaking. Thanks for all the detail! Can they interact with mission terminals on the “wrong” fleet? Because it would be interesting to see whether the planetary heroic missions are the pub or imp ones. Also check which terminals they can use on Odessen, the pub dome or imp dome. Also check missions that are the same names on both sides like the GSF missions and the Veteran FP weekly. Edited February 17, 2022 by phalczen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pietrastor Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Note to self: do not pick an opposite faction class to play... Too late for me, did that on multiple chars already. But I have all 8 class storiea completed so maybe thats why I didn't experience any issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlaVii Posted February 17, 2022 Author Share Posted February 17, 2022 can you check the sub status on these players? Are they recently resubbed or preferred/F2P? They were both subs before and after patch 7 although I'm not sure either will remain for long with both their main characters trapped in limbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleev Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 bump Jesus, bioware, this is a reason for an EMERGENCY MAINTENANCE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuffmeister Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Does this allow you to buy customisations for opposite faction companions that join you that you would normally have no access to the vendors that sell them? Cause if so colour me intrigued! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-Kaitou-Kid Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 They were both subs before and after patch 7 although I'm not sure either will remain for long with both their main characters trapped in limbo I think the question is more how long before? Were they subs for a while or just in the few days leading up to 7.0? One of the people that encountered this mentioned that they resubbed a few days before the patch and characters created after they subbed, even if those characters were created before the patch, aren't affected. Just older character from before they resubbed. It just makes me wonder if Bioware maybe ran some eligibility check for the second combat style, since it's sub-locked, and people who subbed after that check are having their older characters affected by this. That'd be a weird way to do things so this is a spitball guess, but that's all we can do until Bioware responds to this and looks into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlaVii Posted February 17, 2022 Author Share Posted February 17, 2022 The guild member who this happened to last night says they resubbed about a month ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raansu Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) lol I had a feeling this would happen when they first announced the styles given how deeply woven the code probably is for factions and where they can go. Fleet pass is likely directly tied to what class you are so using it as a imp class even though you're a pub story toon it doesn't surprise me that it bugged out and sends you to imp fleet. This probably wouldn't be an issue if they maintained the tags for the old base classes, but since those are gone and only the advanced classes exist.....here we are I guess. Edited February 17, 2022 by Raansu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiableArab Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Let them try gquitting, and joining a republic guild. Let them post a screenshot or a quick video, most guilds auto invite once you ask for a guild on pubside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlaVii Posted February 17, 2022 Author Share Posted February 17, 2022 Let them try gquitting, and joining a republic guild. Let them post a screenshot or a quick video, most guilds auto invite once you ask for a guild on pubside. They got a reply from CS saying to do a repair install and then to press CTRL-U twice to reload the interface. They have to do it to advance the ticket. The backup plan is to invite them to our Rep guild while they wait for a working solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlaVii Posted February 18, 2022 Author Share Posted February 18, 2022 Resetting the UI and repair installing does not fix the problem. He's submitted a new ticket since the previous one was closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcos Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Add me to the list I am now stuck as an Imp Assasin. I am a Sith in a Republic guild with no ship. It is not good. I really a Jedi Guardian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JojoKasei Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Cross-linking another thread with some info on support answers: https://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=10006998#post10006998 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanitorKane Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Cross-linking another thread with some info on support answers: https://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=10006998#post10006998 Thanks JojoKasei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rortegas Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 (edited) I haven't dared touch the new quest and choose a secondary combat style yet. Edited February 18, 2022 by rortegas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlaVii Posted February 19, 2022 Author Share Posted February 19, 2022 The guild member who first reported this to me has magically appeared back on Imp side. He said he did nothing to advance the story and hasn't logged in until now. He can do everything on Imp side again although his Combat Style is locked to Gunslinger and he can't switch back to Bounty Hunter. He can access the BH personal starship. He has no option to pickup the quest to choose a 2nd spec (again). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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