Tsillah Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Hey Aowin. I still don't agree with your points but I will say that I appreciate Eric's post on 5.1 The RNG was still a terrible idea and I'll be interested to see what they're going to do. If these are changes I will like I will forever insist that my views had something to do with it because BWA listens to me and nobody else (well not really but it sounded fun to say that). Have a nice day, mine's pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsetso Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Hey Aowin. I still don't agree with your points but I will say that I appreciate Eric's post on 5.1 The RNG was still a terrible idea and I'll be interested to see what they're going to do. If these are changes I will like I will forever insist that my views had something to do with it because BWA listens to me and nobody else (well not really but it sounded fun to say that). Have a nice day, mine's pretty good. TBH, Eric's post didn't promise anything really. It was the usual "We're looking into it". We'll see what'll happen on the stream, but after the last one i don't have much hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furh Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 TBH, Eric's post didn't promise anything really. It was the usual "We're looking into it". We'll see what'll happen on the stream, but after the last one i don't have much hope. Thats because you want the total removal of RNG and thats not going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quraswren Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 TBH, Eric's post didn't promise anything really. It was the usual "We're looking into it". We'll see what'll happen on the stream, but after the last one i don't have much hope. Thats my same thinking. His post on 5.1 doesn't really say much beyond their looking and hearing but none of that matters if they don't understand the issues with what they created and as of right now, I cannot say bw understands the problem with GC grind, the terrible RNG system they implemented with what has clearly little testing or how badly it affects alt play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khevar Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 He did, many times, we all did. Just goes to show you guys don't actually read what he posts before you start slamming him. Have you noticed that there are people in this thread that are NOT engaged in attacks on Aowin, but are instead talking about the actual topic itself? Why not quote one of THOSE posts and actually debate the subject of RNG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordArtemis Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 (edited) I am wary as to what they might do, but hopeful as always. They don't have the greatest track record, but hopefully they find some way to make changes that most folks will enjoy and appreciate. I still feel this system has great potential if structured properly. I am not against the removal of RNG elements if that happens, though that would be a disappointing for casual players perhaps...not that casuals likely care that much about end game gear. But I expect it will land somewhere in between, like it likely should. Edited December 13, 2016 by LordArtemis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quraswren Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Thats because you want the total removal of RNG and thats not going to happen. Then we are not being vocal enough about how bad it is to have RNG in the game at this point in it's life. We simply must up the posts about how bad it is and maybe hit other forums as well. Stranger things have happened and if doing all that get rid of RNG,. We're all the better for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsillah Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 TBH, Eric's post didn't promise anything really. It was the usual "We're looking into it". We'll see what'll happen on the stream, but after the last one i don't have much hope. Actually in this case I don't agree. Now, I am not saying that I will be jumping for joy after the livestream on Thursday but it's not the usual we're looking into it. They are in fact actively making a patch to address some issues that they correctly identified and they are going to tell us about these plans in the livestream. So that is rather more than just looking into it. It's 5.1 in January they are talking about. Again, I won't say I'll be happy on Thursday without knowing what they are planning to do, but there is a glimmer of hope and I shall watch the livestream with an open mind. If it's not good enough, don't worry, I'll tell them, but I can at least appreciate that they're not waiting 6 months to address these topics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hichitsuki-hime Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Thats my same thinking. His post on 5.1 doesn't really say much beyond their looking and hearing but none of that matters if they don't understand the issues with what they created and as of right now, I cannot say bw understands the problem with GC grind, the terrible RNG system they implemented with what has clearly little testing or how badly it affects alt play. true, but to be looking into it, they first have to realize there is a problem to look into. so. it's a start =):D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hichitsuki-hime Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Actually in this case I don't agree. Now, I am not saying that I will be jumping for joy after the livestream on Thursday but it's not the usual we're looking into it. They are in fact actively making a patch to address some issues that they correctly identified and they are going to tell us about these plans in the livestream. So that is rather more than just looking into it. It's 5.1 in January they are talking about. Again, I won't say I'll be happy on Thursday without knowing what they are planning to do, but there is a glimmer of hope and I shall watch the livestream with an open mind. If it's not good enough, don't worry, I'll tell them, but I can at least appreciate that they're not waiting 6 months to address these topics. will u re-sub if it looks promising enough? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furh Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Then we are not being vocal enough about how bad it is to have RNG in the game at this point in it's life. We simply must up the posts about how bad it is and maybe hit other forums as well. Stranger things have happened and if doing all that get rid of RNG,. We're all the better for it. Haha on a joking matter you know what your post reminds me of? The presidential election. Massive protest (ok not working) He lost the popular vote (that didnt work) Have electors change their vote (that didnt work, work harder) Do a recount (dang still not working hit harder) Blame the Russians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vember Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Have you noticed that there are people in this thread that are NOT engaged in attacks on Aowin, but are instead talking about the actual topic itself? Why not quote one of THOSE posts and actually debate the subject of RNG? I have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quraswren Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Haha on a joking matter you know what your post reminds me of? The presidential election. Massive protest (ok not working) He lost the popular vote (that didnt work) Have electors change their vote (that didnt work, work harder) Do a recount (dang still not working hit harder) Blame the Russians Can't call them quitters and thats a good thing. Unlike RNG gearing in swtor and all the other problems it's brought along with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsillah Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 will u re-sub if it looks promising enough? :D If I am happy with what they will propose on Thursday then yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aowin Posted December 13, 2016 Author Share Posted December 13, 2016 I am very much looking forward to see what the team has to say about upcoming updates and tweaks with regard to Galactic Command. I wouldn't get my hopes up that BioWare is planning massive, sweeping changes. That is not what 5.1 is meant to achieve. It's clear all BioWare is interested in doing is merely supplementing the system already in place. BioWare's goal is to provide more certainty in the system, but RNG is not going away. We'll see what BioWare does in regards to alternate characters, as that should also be quite interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawiki Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 I am very much looking forward to see what the team has to say about upcoming updates and tweaks with regard to Galactic Command. I wouldn't get my hopes up that BioWare is planning massive, sweeping changes. That is not what 5.1 is meant to achieve. It's clear all BioWare is interested in doing is merely supplementing the system already in place. BioWare's goal is to provide more certainty in the system, but RNG is not going away. We'll see what BioWare does in regards to alternate characters, as that should also be quite interesting. 1. They have mentioned a vendor to buy gear from a couple times now. My speculation is once you attain max level of a Command Rank for a tier you will be able to buy any missing pieces. It is the only thing that makes sense to do with the horrid RNG system. 2. Alts will probably have some purchasable CXP bonuses. This will be disappointing if so, or it needs to be significant. On a separate topic - all the "vocal minority" crap I've heard many times around here lately you can throw that out of the window. They obviously have a problem on their hands and why they are doing yet another live stream & planning to make a change in 5.1 just a couple weeks in. They are bailing water whether you want to admit it or not. I know you have been proponent of RNG, which is mind boggling to me, but very few people like this type of system. It's appalling that any game company would do it and is why they are already going to change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hichitsuki-hime Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 I am very much looking forward to see what the team has to say about upcoming updates and tweaks with regard to Galactic Command. I wouldn't get my hopes up that BioWare is planning massive, sweeping changes. That is not what 5.1 is meant to achieve. It's clear all BioWare is interested in doing is merely supplementing the system already in place. BioWare's goal is to provide more certainty in the system, but RNG is not going away. We'll see what BioWare does in regards to alternate characters, as that should also be quite interesting. now this post i can actually agree with :eek: christmas miracle =):D so long as it helps me get my set bonus lol. cause with my type of luck my count will stay at 1 piece... 2 at most by the time i crawl to tier 2:D:D and NO, i'm not whining, i'm making an educated guess based on my overall RNG success over the years =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hichitsuki-hime Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 1. They have mentioned a vendor to buy gear from a couple times now. My speculation is once you attain max level of a Command Rank for a tier you will be able to buy any missing pieces. It is the only thing that makes sense to do with the horrid RNG system. 2. Alts will probably have some purchasable CXP bonuses. This will be disappointing if so, or it needs to be significant. On a separate topic - all the "vocal minority" crap I've heard many times around here lately you can throw that out of the window. They obviously have a problem on their hands and why they are doing yet another live stream & planning to make a change in 5.1 just a couple weeks in. They are bailing water whether you want to admit it or not. I know you have been proponent of RNG, which is mind boggling to me, but very few people like this type of system. It's appalling that any game company would do it and is why they are already going to change it. well, if there is a vendor, then why would i be unable to purchase gear for my alts from said vendor? unless of course they make it so u can't buy gear that's not for your class.... which is probably what will happen now that i think about it lol:D:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamtas Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 well, if there is a vendor, then why would i be unable to purchase gear for my alts from said vendor? unless of course they make it so u can't buy gear that's not for your class.... which is probably what will happen now that i think about it lol:D:D not necessarily. That could be the "alt friendly" solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hichitsuki-hime Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 not necessarily. That could be the "alt friendly" solution. well =) let's hope =) of course it could also be nice if they has unassembled tokens drop from the crates instead of an already specific piece of set bonus =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawiki Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 (edited) well, if there is a vendor, then why would i be unable to purchase gear for my alts from said vendor? lol:D:D I would hope for this also. One time through the cxp system will be enough. i just don't think they will go that far though. Lets hope they do. Edited December 13, 2016 by Kawiki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quraswren Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 (edited) true, but to be looking into it, they first have to realize there is a problem to look into. so. it's a start =):D I think they knew it was a problem to start with. bw just really didn't care what gamers though at that time. Thats not a new complaint and hasn't been since beta for KotET. bw's arrogance just blinded them to reality. Edited December 13, 2016 by Quraswren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsetso Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 I think they knew it was a problem to start with. bw just really didn't care what gamers though at that time. Thats not a new complaint and hasn't been since beta for KotET. bw's arrogance just blinded them to reality. Tho whole scheme was to promote the cxp boosters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeNaCe-NZ Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 So, if someone disagrees with you then that person is automatically a troll? imo, Aowin has been articulate and civil in expressing his opinions. So, attacking him because you don't like his ideas/opinions is only saying a lot about yourselves. You clearly didn't read the whole thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamtas Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 well =) let's hope =) of course it could also be nice if they has unassembled tokens drop from the crates instead of an already specific piece of set bonus =) as much as I would like unassembled, I don't think it will happen. According to BW many players weren't able to figure out the different currencies and which set/vendor was for their advanced class/spec. The pieces dropping for spec are to eliminate the confusion some apparently had in determining this. But being able to trade one set piece for another would be a nice thing - but again, not something that I think would happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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