VaJJ Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Am I the only one here who still gets top dps and top objectives on my level 15 toon? 50s are super simple to kill whether you are a level 10 or a level 49. Stuff scales in pvp so really the only thing they can use to get an advantage is more skills and talents and expertise gear if they have it. Honestly the only characters I have seen with ANY sort of advantage at 50 are the healers, dps is dps and tanks are tanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deffin Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 (edited) Am I the only one here who still gets top dps and top objectives on my level 15 toon? 50s are super simple to kill whether you are a level 10 or a level 49. Stuff scales in pvp so really the only thing they can use to get an advantage is more skills and talents and expertise gear if they have it. Honestly the only characters I have seen with ANY sort of advantage at 50 are the healers, dps is dps and tanks are tanks. People just die to a level 50 and come to the conclusion that it is inbalanced. They are quick to forfeit the idea that it is on their end. "WHAT I DIED TO A LEVEL 50? CLEARLY THEY ARE OP" *Rushes to the forums* "BIOWARE FIX YOUR GAME THIS IS SO DUMB!!! I MEAN I AM THE DEFENDER OF THE REPUBLIC *** IS THIS WITH ME DYING!!!" Edited December 28, 2011 by Deffin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaestmannaeyjar Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 I have full PvP orange gear with the best mods available and I have no problem against 50s badly geeared and playing like ****. Yes, a 50 with PvP gear knowing what he does kills me. He'd better, levels have to count for something. Bottom line: you won't perform in PvP at low levels AND with green gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaptorJesus Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 It's their fault for rushing to the end. I am not going to feel sorry for people that rush to the end because they wanted to get their first or feel like conquering other people that have little chance against them. This is quite fine, you reap what you sew int he end, and you need to sleep in the bed you make. If you can't handle the fact you rushed and others might not be catching up, you have no one else to blame. This attitude is no less worse than the people whining about low levels in warzones. You try to tell those people at higher levels how to play while becoming incensed when they do the same? I imagine brackets will be added eventually, but currently it would be just as unfair to force ridiculous queue times on those people as it is for the lower levels fighting over their heads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torcer Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Getting rolled by geared level 50s is pretty much the polar opposite of fun. FFS, this game needs a level 50 bracket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaJJ Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 levels have to count for something. They don't unless he has expertise gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krakken Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 actually its the non braketed game play thats killing pvp. that should have never made it to the game. such a looser of a system. they should have kept it at your own risk to fight pvp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamasSoKehur Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 I dont really understand these topics anymore... None of them are started by people even close to the home stretch. I will admit right after release these topics made sense to me. Now... I am wondering *** you are still doing below lvl 45 -.- maybe, A LOT of ppl have a life to take care .... and that no-bracket idea was the most retarded ever in the mmo's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daecollo Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 (edited) Actually it is easy to get. You can get a full set of 50 gear in less than a day with expertise, blue quality form your PvP vendor on your faction capitol world. And it's actually a 30% to 35% difference. Bolster is 10% below the top (at base) that a class can reach, while PvP gear is stated to only be 10% above it, but that's definitely not true. A bolstered level 10 doesn't even come close to what a bolstered level 30 can get from damage, health or even stats, just from the gear bonus. You realise it costs 500/600 per piece, so you would need about 7000 commendations to get the full set, takes alot more then a day, girly. (and most people would rather do dailys for champion gear, since it would take months.) Most level 50s don't even have most level 50 gear, only 2-3 pieces. Most Flashpoints are BUGGED/Operations broken, so they can't really PVE for gear less they do Black Talon hardmode, which they can't find a group for. Many people are under the impression that a set of 50 gear is just HANDED to them... thats not the case, you have to fight with the RNG Monster, and its given me 5 Champion Relics... (completely worthless btw.) Another reason why 50s win so much is because they are grouping with FRIENDS they started the game with, they learned how there friends play and compliment and help each other. Edited December 28, 2011 by Daecollo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sreolla Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 (edited) Agreed, the only ones that can basicly kill a 50, is another 50 LIES... My whole team took on a 50 and killed him, after he killed 2 of ours Thing is depending the class, lv 50s will have 2-3x more AOEs to **** you with, more abilitys to heal (small to large heals) many debuffs to get out of stuns, or to stun you perma with 5 diff stun attacks. Plus those 50s with super gear (like full 15% expertise) thats abit more of a tank than i could ever hold with lol, Unless im bugged and i magicaly have maxed expertise that does not show up on me but does on 50s who have no life Edited December 28, 2011 by Sreolla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaptorJesus Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 (edited) Many people are under the impression that a set of 50 gear is just HANDED to them... thats not the case, you have to fight with the RNG Monster, and its given me 5 Champion Relics... (completely worthless btw.) Those aren't worthless! They give you statless relics that don't really compare to the vendor blue and green relics! Edited December 28, 2011 by MrRaptorJesus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daecollo Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Those aren't worthless! They give you statless relics that don't really compare to the vendor blue and green relics! My 10,000 credit level 34 relics are better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redshirtricky Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 They should've raised the pvp entrance to at least 20. Lvl 20s and above have a pretty comfortable skill package that lvl 10s don't. If you're a lvl 10 and you enter a warzone, you might be bolstered in damage and HP, but you don't have access to: 1. talented passives / abilities 2. base class abilities that provide CC / survivability / "oh noes!" cooldowns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaptorJesus Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 My 10,000 credit level 34 relics are better. Sadly, yes. You'd expect the pvp relics to give endurance and/or expertise no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daecollo Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Sadly, yes. You'd expect the pvp relics to give endurance and/or expertise no? Would make sense, rather then a activated clicky, Can you imagine the pain of having 5% chance to get gear and all 3 of them are relics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaptorJesus Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Would make sense, rather then a activated clicky, Can you imagine the pain of having 5% chance to get gear and all 3 of them are relics? Friend of mine got his weapon in his first bag. /somad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled-Phoenix Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 I dont really understand these topics anymore... None of them are started by people even close to the home stretch. I will admit right after release these topics made sense to me. Now... I am wondering *** you are still doing below lvl 45 -.- Excuse me for having a life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyImTempzz Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 I dont care about the level diffrence tbh... the main skills you need you get earlyish in the game, only thing you lack is CC... the system works fine for those who use there brain, and arnt just mindless charge and die players... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eradicatelol Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Getting rolled by geared level 50s is pretty much the polar opposite of fun. FFS, this game needs a level 50 bracket. Or brackets all around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eradicatelol Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 They should've raised the pvp entrance to at least 20. Lvl 20s and above have a pretty comfortable skill package that lvl 10s don't. If you're a lvl 10 and you enter a warzone, you might be bolstered in damage and HP, but you don't have access to: 1. talented passives / abilities 2. base class abilities that provide CC / survivability / "oh noes!" cooldowns ^Brackets plox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raggok Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Agreed, the only ones that can basicly kill a 50, is another 50 Uh, wrong. And 50s need their own bracket eventually. L50 is when gear differences come into play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heinywb Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Excuse me for having a life. Then stop complaining about the ppl who dont and have put in more work than you. Its a trade off. u cant expect to have the same things as ppl who work harder than you. Thats life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calei Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Only work some time go toe to toe whit one who is a pvp'r and know what he is doing like your self and you wont win you don't even have a change to win cuz he is more gear and have allot more levels on you Omg this is painful to read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torcer Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 (edited) Then stop complaining about the ppl who dont and have put in more work than you. Its a trade off. u cant expect to have the same things as ppl who work harder than you. Thats life. No, life and actual work is quite a bit different than RNG. In life, you can work towards a goal, minimize risk and have a reasonable certainty that with time and effort, you can achieve that goal. Work isn’t just about investing time and hoping for luck, it’s about working intelligently towards a goal. For example, you could spend 18-25 going to Med School, or 18-25 working retail 60 hours a week, the former being a more intelligent way to spend that time that will eventually yield better results. This is why working 10 hours as a Heart Surgeon nets you more money than working 80 hours as a grocery store clerk. The PvP champion gear system rewards luck and working unintelligently towards a goal. The thing is you could reward players who invest epic amounts of time into PvP, while eliminating the frustration of RNG by creating a certain high token turn in for PvP armor. For example, I'd personally rather pay 600 Mercenary commendations for a Certain piece of level PvP gear then 200 Mercenary commendations for a chance at the same. Both require alot of work and time, but the later more intelligently works towards the eventual goal. Edited December 28, 2011 by Torcer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortcake Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 (edited) honestly i feel that its harder to get kills as lvl 50 then it was when i was a lowbie lowbies are carried by the bolster so i dont understand this whinefest maybe you are just bad ? Edited December 28, 2011 by Shortcake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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