djbowflex Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 "We have an entire team dedicated to adding content and features to player vs. player. We have some of the most experienced PvP developers in the world on this team. So far very few people have seen, or know much about the stunning Open World PVP on Ilum" - Bioware ????????? really ***,if thats so you need to fire each and everyone of them,cause really,i think gamers have more clue about pvp info then anyone,or go ask blizzard i'm sure they will tell you how to create world pvp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelticfury Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 theres nothign else to do at 50 then you aren't 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crmzn Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 This guy is not only lame for wanting to be rewarded for everything he does in the game....... But annoying, please let this subject die....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knifewrench Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 (edited) Because PvE eventually becomes mind-numbingly easy... or mind-numbingly stupid. Edited January 25, 2012 by Knifewrench Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slonep Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Sometimes playing the game is about... playing. Have fun dude. Collect some good feeling and but em in storage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wubsie Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 its not fun and it needs to be re-worked if you want to have open world PVP there has to be rewards/along with penalties. you kill someone you are rewarded/you die you lose some money/faction or a title/gear something to give PVP an addrenaline rush. And many games had no rewards to open world PvP, and survived. Why do people need incentives to go out and fight against other players on a mass scale? It's fun and takes a lot of coordination to win [when you're outnumbered]. I don't need any motivation to do open world pvp, nor do I see a need for it. You want free stuff? Do warzones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinobiDemon Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share Posted January 25, 2012 (edited) I can think of 1 MMO that had amazing pvp and that was Everquest 2 back in KOS/EOF T7 era. That pvp was unmatched in every aspect of the game...just for the fact that you were actually awarded for your effort and open world pvp did exist. Now the game has a new team and the game is dead, same with SWG both games were amazing at 1 point. This game is already at the point where pvp is dead, and by dead I mean 1 section of 1 tiny planet dedicated for pvp...you guys that don't want rewards are the people that sit out on Ilum all day "trading" with each other (again I haven't logged in since pre-1.1 patch so excuse me if I'm behind) that is your reward and that's what you call fun then you must be lame irl..I want an adrenaline rush when I'm pvping like I used to get playing Everquest 2 because with titles on the line and my fame at stake that was something worth pvping for...keep asking me why do i want rewards for pvping...look at all the games that are dying if not dead already; IE Warhammer, Rift,Eq2... all because of flawed pvp systems and nothing to keep them entertaining...Same will happen with TOR I'm sure of it. Edited January 25, 2012 by ShinobiDemon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrekorSilverfang Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I haven't tested open world pvp yet myself but if that's the case they really should work on more features for open world pvp. Of course they need to be careful not to make killing random players there rewarding, since then you'd have massive exploits where entire guilds would kill each other constantly to get the best rewards asap. But they could easily set up things like hourly battles there, where Republic fight Imperials over a given territory (and maybe even some territory where guilds vie for personal dominance over a territory), and taking part in those battles would award points, titles etc, and it would shape the world. If it's just random pvp with no rewards and no meaning then it's a failure IMO. There is no point, the moment you add something like WZs into a game it's basically signing a death warrant for world pvp. The only way to avoid it is to get rid of WZs or make them completely pointless. Unfortunately modern MMO's are all about being super casual so world pvp is not likely to ever make a full return outside of a big pvp game like EVE or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjmc Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Fame comes from killing people Fame comes from having good video editing software. Those who post exciting battles on YouTube will be more famous in the long run than those that rely on people in the game remembering them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinobiDemon Posted January 26, 2012 Author Share Posted January 26, 2012 take wzs out and add a title system with valor as rewards = win pvp. give a reason for actually wanting to go out and open world pvp...open world pvp is not warzones/battle grounds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinobiDemon Posted January 26, 2012 Author Share Posted January 26, 2012 bump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinobiDemon Posted January 29, 2012 Author Share Posted January 29, 2012 feel free to continue this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthiel Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I'm 42 on an RP-PVP server and I haven't seen this at all. The lack of PVP rewards has meant that level 50s cannot be bothered to hunt down lowbies to gank. Almost all World PVP that I have seen has been against similar level characters and usually it has been 1 on 1 (or 2 on 2 if you count companions). When I have run into level 50 enemy players (probably someone looking for datacrons), it has usually not led to a fight. I am happy with this system as it allows for world PVP that is relatively fair and doesn't really interfere with questing (at worst, if you die you have to run back from the med centre). i played wow on boulderfist there were 0 as in no reward for ganking(open world pvp lol) and it happned 24/7/365 and yea even on the day in a leap year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinobiDemon Posted January 29, 2012 Author Share Posted January 29, 2012 bump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archendrus Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Agree. Although I don't necessarily need rewards to go looking for some world pvp, the thing is, without rewards, many people won't bother with getting a group together, hopping from planet to planet, and hunting down a decent fight. Why? PvP mini-games, aka warzones. I'm sure the mindset is, "Why do all that extra work when I can just stand in fleet, queue up, and profit?" I really can't argue with that. So, there really should be some sort of motivation to get PvP'ers "out there" to get some real world PvP going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinobiDemon Posted January 30, 2012 Author Share Posted January 30, 2012 finally someone who is actually intelligent enough to understand where I'm coming from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JingleHell Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 What is the point of playing video games below the competitive level, where you pay to play, waste free time, and get nothing of physical value out of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinobiDemon Posted January 30, 2012 Author Share Posted January 30, 2012 There is no point right now; hence why I don't play it and won't return till they fix it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinobiDemon Posted January 30, 2012 Author Share Posted January 30, 2012 bump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lykurgus Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 (edited) Failed to reap OP correctly, please ignore! Edited January 30, 2012 by Lykurgus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakan Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 *shakes head* EQ, and more recently WoW, have brainwashed so many of you into thinking you need a shiny piece of something to feel like you've been rewarded for your time and effort. Back in the day (when us older MMO vets walked uphill, in the snow, and both ways) PvP was about the competitiveness and fun. Yes, let me repeat that: We PvP'd for FUN And it was great. The thrill of the kill was all we needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archendrus Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 *shakes head* EQ, and more recently WoW, have brainwashed so many of you into thinking you need a shiny piece of something to feel like you've been rewarded for your time and effort. Back in the day (when us older MMO vets walked uphill, in the snow, and both ways) PvP was about the competitiveness and fun. Yes, let me repeat that: We PvP'd for FUN And it was great. The thrill of the kill was all we needed. Oh I hear ya, I PvP just for the fun of it myself. Rewards are just an extra bonus. But the thing is, if they offer rewards for warzones, which are easy to get into, and nothing for world PvP, which takes a little more work, the general PvP crowd won't bother. Successful world PvP relies on numbers. That being said, I finally found some world PvP yesterday, and it only took thirty levels and four planets. Just cruising around in the republic questing area, looking for random people. We also had a good size group fighting back and forth between outposts in the dune sea. That was way more fun than any warzone mini-game =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinobiDemon Posted January 31, 2012 Author Share Posted January 31, 2012 no; the whole point of doing something you like is being rewarded; same can be true with anything in real life. IE working for example; i work to be rewarded with dollars. u mad cause my points make sense/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinobiDemon Posted February 1, 2012 Author Share Posted February 1, 2012 point and case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinobiDemon Posted February 1, 2012 Author Share Posted February 1, 2012 no; the whole point of doing something you like is being rewarded; same can be true with anything in real life. IE working for example; i work to be rewarded with dollars. u mad cause my points make sense/ quoted because of amazingness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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