slickmatty Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 (edited) Is it worth the extra Grav Round to get 1 more charged barrier or is it more effective to use after 2 uses of GR (4 charged barrier). So HiB more often at 24% bonus or wait for the 5th charge? Just remembering the days of the sage when clipping telekinetic throw was advantageous and wondered if this was a commando secret I was unaware of. Edited August 21, 2015 by slickmatty Typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyronamics Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 You're thinking about it the wrong way. You have 15 seconds cooldown on HiB, three Grav Rounds will take up 4.5 seconds of that time. You do have time to get them in and should be using HiB at 5 stacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryuku-sama Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 You're thinking about it the wrong way. You have 15 seconds cooldown on HiB, three Grav Rounds will take up 4.5 seconds of that time. You do have time to get them in and should be using HiB at 5 stacks. Only time I could see it used at 4 stack is in the opener... And even then.. Still better to use it at 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyronamics Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 From the POV of knowing you're going to use tons of Grav Rounds anyway and that HiB going to be on CD for a while afterwards you should use even the first one at 5 unless you have a really really urgent need to fire HiB 1 GCD faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom_VI Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 You're thinking about it the wrong way. You have 15 seconds cooldown on HiB, three Grav Rounds will take up 4.5 seconds of that time. You do have time to get them in and should be using HiB at 5 stacks. Except then you have to medical probe and all those stacks go out the window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyronamics Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Don't get me started on how crap that mechanic is again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaos_KidSWTOR Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Don't get me started on how crap that mechanic is again. I agree, the Self Healing mechanics for IO and Arsenal suck. Lethality Operative doesn't have to sacrifice an attack to use an Instant Kolto Infusion, and Sorcs... well, all they spend are a few GCD's. So, yea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmatty Posted August 22, 2015 Author Share Posted August 22, 2015 Ok thanks, seems unanimous. I might have to work on my rotation, I seem to have HiB available at 4 stacks quite often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RookB Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Pre-3.0 Gunnery had a more static rotation. There was a lot of discussion on this very subject. It was a minor DPS loss to postpone HIB to get one more stack. I wouldn't think that has changed but, I haven't really run the numbers. As others have stated, you should almost always have full stacks every time HIB is available now. But, if you don't due to other actions, I would fire it when available, regardless of stacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirruz Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 After the opener you should naturally get to 5 stacks everytime it comes off cooldown by the sheer amount of GRs in the rotation you're doing, so like what was said before it only really pertains to the opener. It wasn't totally clear before 3.0 and it isn't totally clear right now, at least in terms of "perfection", because in all honesty it doesn't matter. People were using their own prefered opener approaches, some argued theirs were better some said it did not matter very much. Personally I've always just copied and followed what the highest parses are doing, I find them more reliable, well not all the times but mostly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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