CKNORTH Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 I will confess I play a sorc for pvp, I personally I think force storm is OP.... However I was just in a WZ where 6 of the 8 players were Sages... they basically covered both doors with spamming rocks, Ha!! but if its like anything else I just wish instead of a nerf there is a possible way to boost other classes, tired of seeing nerfs to counteract problems with pvp instead of boosting the other classes to compensate... just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TACeMossie Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 I will confess I play a sorc for pvp, I personally I think force storm is OP.... However I was just in a WZ where 6 of the 8 players were Sages... they basically covered both doors with spamming rocks, Ha!! but if its like anything else I just wish instead of a nerf there is a possible way to boost other classes, tired of seeing nerfs to counteract problems with pvp instead of boosting the other classes to compensate... just my opinion. The nerf is coming... but its on everything BUT Force Storm/Forcequake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKNORTH Posted March 2, 2015 Author Share Posted March 2, 2015 The nerf is coming... but its on everything BUT Force Storm/Forcequake Ack! Well, 99 sages on the wall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halinalle Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 I will confess I play a sorc for pvp, I personally I think force storm is OP.... However I was just in a WZ where 6 of the 8 players were Sages... they basically covered both doors with spamming rocks, Ha!! but if its like anything else I just wish instead of a nerf there is a possible way to boost other classes, tired of seeing nerfs to counteract problems with pvp instead of boosting the other classes to compensate... just my opinion. Go check PTS forum. Oh yeah, Sorcs/Sages are going to be nerfed to ground... ... Lightning/TK single target dps to be exact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruskaeth Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Go check PTS forum. Oh yeah, Sorcs/Sages are going to be nerfed to ground... ... Lightning/TK single target dps to be exact. Because it's so much stronger than IO for an example? Go BW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthCasus Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Ack! Well, 99 sages on the wall? Nerfing Forcestorm/Forcequake is on the Wall of Crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielearley Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 I will confess I play a sorc for pvp, I personally I think force storm is OP.... However I was just in a WZ where 6 of the 8 players were Sages... they basically covered both doors with spamming rocks, Ha!! but if its like anything else I just wish instead of a nerf there is a possible way to boost other classes, tired of seeing nerfs to counteract problems with pvp instead of boosting the other classes to compensate... just my opinion. it's a good attack, much like all the AOE attacks that have been buffed. But not op, had a WZ yesterday with 5 force spamming Sith, they were ripped apart. If you stand in circles of death you will die, run around it stab them in the back, Sorc/Sages are incredibly squishy. Had these 5 sith been smart dot spec, we would of died! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piene Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 it's a good attack, much like all the AOE attacks that have been buffed. But not op, had a WZ yesterday with 5 force spamming Sith, they were ripped apart. If you stand in circles of death you will die, run around it stab them in the back, Sorc/Sages are incredibly squishy. Had these 5 sith been smart dot spec, we would of died! It definitely is a little bit stronger than the other AoE attacks because of it's 100% crit buff. A little bit - thats it though. The single target damage nerfs on the other hand are completely out of place, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoverNoFighter Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Should just remove every stealth class. Stealth classes in any MMO with PvP are always gonna be a problem. Remove them and problem is solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papazmurf Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Should just remove every stealth class. Stealth classes in any MMO with PvP are always gonna be a problem. Remove them and problem is solved. I strongly disagree with this and my main is a guardian. There's many ways to counter a stealth class and as a tank, no one stealth player is going to beat me 1 on 1. They are too squishy and rely too much on going back into stealth and they can't regenerate health while in stealth. It's a patience game with stealth players. Most people are impatient and that's why they hate stealth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoverNoFighter Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 I strongly disagree with this and my main is a guardian. There's many ways to counter a stealth class and as a tank, no one stealth player is going to beat me 1 on 1. They are too squishy and rely too much on going back into stealth and they can't regenerate health while in stealth. It's a patience game with stealth players. Most people are impatient and that's why they hate stealth. The entire concept of having a stealth class is the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FerkWork Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 (edited) The entire concept of having a stealth class is the problem. I'm pretty sure it isn't and since this topics on Sorcs/Sages, it is irrelevant. But feel free to explain to me how they ruin PvP. Edited March 2, 2015 by FerkWork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djiini Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 I don't even play PVP but it feels like I have more damage output just placing down Force Storm than going through my single target rotation on my Sorc. And that's so weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaacone Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 I'm not sure about rock throw but the thing that sorcs and sages have that needs a Nerf is that unbreakable shield that restores them to full health. That thing seriously needs a Nerf to make it interruptable or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djiini Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 I'm not sure about rock throw but the thing that sorcs and sages have that needs a Nerf is that unbreakable shield that restores them to full health. That thing seriously needs a Nerf to make it interruptable or something. The healing on Force Barrier is NOT that strong. More likely their healer is healing them while they're invincible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MandFlurry Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 I will confess I play a sorc for pvp, I personally I think force storm is OP.... However I was just in a WZ where 6 of the 8 players were Sages... they basically covered both doors with spamming rocks, Ha!! but if its like anything else I just wish instead of a nerf there is a possible way to boost other classes, tired of seeing nerfs to counteract problems with pvp instead of boosting the other classes to compensate... just my opinion. Because the Devs are not smart enough to balance things in an easier way like that. They Unbalance Classes more by Nerfing than just making the other Classes do the same dmg and defense by reasily raising the bar a lil' higher for other classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MandFlurry Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 I'm not sure about rock throw but the thing that sorcs and sages have that needs a Nerf is that unbreakable shield that restores them to full health. That thing seriously needs a Nerf to make it interruptable or something. That so-called shield, or armor Does NOT put any1 at full health, don't lie about these things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaacone Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 That so-called shield, or armor Does NOT put any1 at full health, don't lie about these things. No I'm just exaggerating. It still is annoying that it cant be interrupted though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djiini Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 No I'm just exaggerating. It still is annoying that it cant be interrupted though If it could be interrupted that would defeat the entire point of the ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaacone Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 If it could be interrupted that would defeat the entire point of the ability. What is it for and why cant it be interupted? If I had a better understanding of it I'd probably have a different opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drockter Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 What is it for and why cant it be interupted? If I had a better understanding of it I'd probably have a different opinion It is an immunity, true... but we can't move or it'll break. Has a very long CD. The unbreakable one will not heal BTW... although it does give us some time to heal ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaronV Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Go check PTS forum. Oh yeah, Sorcs/Sages are going to be nerfed to ground... ... Lightning/TK single target dps to be exact. its not the first time its happened. In fact 9/10 time Bioware's modus operandi is to nerf sorcs everytime a "class balance" comes out. I really wish they would just leave pve alone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raphael_diSanto Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 I don't even play PVP but it feels like I have more damage output just placing down Force Storm than going through my single target rotation on my Sorc. And that's so weird. It basically does, but it burns more force over the duration than a equivalent Pebbles/rock throw rotation for the same amount of time. Forcequake/Lightning Storm is the strongest with the most overall utility of the AoEs by far (vs Sweeping Gunfire/Hail of Bolts/Mortar Volley), but it's also somewhat expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Should just remove every stealth class. Stealth classes in any MMO with PvP are always gonna be a problem. Remove them and problem is solved. Yup! Because they never want to admit just how powerful of a skill being invisible actually is. I'm 100% in favor of balance, but that needs to be in straight up fights. If I can't see you coming, you sure as hell shouldn't be able to kill me once I do. Stealth needs to be about hoping to NOT initiate combat, like it is in any stealth based games, not about attacking and being balanced from stealth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertthebard Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Oh great, another "We need to butcher PvE so that people too stupid to move out of or stay out of circles don't die in PvP" thread. Everyone blaming BW in this thread really needs to read it again, then hop over to the PvP forums to see how many tears are flowing over there about it. This is the source of the nerf bat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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