WannEras Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Why have you resorted to these ridiculous timer/chance of spawn mechanics for a datacron. I thoroughly loved the challenge posed by the previous datacrons, which actually added a bit of excitement to the process involving jumping or team work. Now it's just wait, spawn, kill, wait, spawn, kill, hope... Basically you couldn't be arsed to come up with something mildly fun this time? What do you gain from making people wait hours on end, let alone doing it three times in a row? Answer me Bioware, back up your actions, thoroughly disappointed with this expansion and the money I could have spent subbing to something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTap Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Answer me Bioware, back up your actions, thoroughly disappointed with this expansion and the money I could have spent subbing to something else. Can I have your stuff if you quit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missywink Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Can I have your stuff if you quit? How about you post something constructive instead of posting crap like you have. @OP I gave up for the time being trying to get that datacron. Too many people around and server seemed awfully laggy tonight. I do agree with you though. I love the challenge of jumping puzzles and discovering how to get to the datacrons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTap Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 How about you post something constructive instead of posting crap like you have. @OP I gave up for the time being trying to get that datacron. Too many people around and server seemed awfully laggy tonight. I do agree with you though. I love the challenge of jumping puzzles and discovering how to get to the datacrons. If he's going to rage and post about how he wishes he spent money on another mmo, he's going to get these types of responses. If he only posted about datacrons, then we could have a discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WannEras Posted December 3, 2014 Author Share Posted December 3, 2014 We killed the thing that spawned at that spot for over an hour... Just why... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelersWay Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 It seems they replaced one poor method of exploration (jumping puzzles) with another poor method of extending gameplay (respawn timers - like the world bosses). Sorry mate, not everyone enjoys (nor can reliably play) jumping puzzles. They needed to go (or at least have some method of avoiding them while obtaining said datacrons). However, I do agree that the mindless grind of respawn timers is not much better (but the lesser of the two evils). Quite frankly, they should have just gone back to basics and made the datacrons actual rewards for exploration, like they are on the starter planets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WannEras Posted December 4, 2014 Author Share Posted December 4, 2014 I'm sorry, but getting the old datacrons is the only way to fully understand the physics of the game. What you're now saying is they've toned it down so the less able can accomplish the task... I didn't mind waiting for the moisture farmer in SWG, it actually felt like you accomplished something, but this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimAce Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Still beats the Endurance 'cron on Makeb. Now that one was sadistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelersWay Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 (edited) I'm sorry, but getting the old datacrons is the only way to fully understand the physics of the game. What you're now saying is they've toned it down so the less able can accomplish the task... I didn't mind waiting for the moisture farmer in SWG, it actually felt like you accomplished something, but this... You mean fully understand how poor the physics of the game actually is. Perhaps if the game was using PhysX, maybe understanding physics would have a point. As it is, it is a poor system wholly dependent upon hardware and server lag/latency. And if you are talking about the Jawa Balloon on tatooine, the only thing that one can say they accomplished is managing to stay awake long enough for the wait/ride, or that they made an awesome sandwich while not actually playing during that time, even though they were logged into the game. Edited December 4, 2014 by TravelersWay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggzy Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Still beats the Endurance 'cron on Makeb. Now that one was sadistic. Yeah the first few times it is but after you learn it, it becomes quite easy and is doable in under 10 mins ez. It takes a bit of skill and thats what makes it fun. Im sad to hear that these new datacrons are just grinded from mobs or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSeventhJedi Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I am SO not in the mood to grind these things. This is worse than the balloon ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erdems Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Still beats the Endurance 'cron on Makeb. Now that one was sadistic. yes, i had wasted three hours only to make the last blind jump. try again ...again... again... that was really tough but exciting somehow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthVitrial Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I'm not a fan of the RNG of this datacron either. Better than the Fleet one though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vennian Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 3 champ mobs with a 5% respawn chance? No thanks. Utter waste of a time sink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Wicked Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Still beats the Endurance 'cron on Makeb. Now that one was sadistic. Work of genius more like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaximusRex Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Oh noes, they did something different with some datacrons then they did with others! The nerve! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
znihilist Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Oh noes, they did something different with some datacrons then they did with others! The nerve! You farm placeholder NPCs over and over for hours at a time to get the required components. There is nothing wrong with a different approach, but there is something wrong when you have to spend 5+ hours trying to farm one out of three NPCs for one component only! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCardinal Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 You farm placeholder NPCs over and over for hours at a time to get the required components. There is nothing wrong with a different approach, but there is something wrong when you have to spend 5+ hours trying to farm one out of three NPCs for one component only! LOL, I remember this from SWG then Mustafar came out, You had to kill some crap boss but as well there, Place holder and random spawn on the boss, they did change that in the end since most got feed up with the stupitity of it all. Good, I won't do the same misstake some of you have then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
znihilist Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 LOL, I remember this from SWG then Mustafar came out, You had to kill some crap boss but as well there, Place holder and random spawn on the boss, they did change that in the end since most got feed up with the stupitity of it all. Good, I won't do the same misstake some of you have then To be fair, there is nothing wrong with grinding but the activity has to be enjoyable, and there is nothing enjoyable about 1-shotting an npc every 4:30 minutes for hours at an end. At least that's where the general consensus is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Wicked Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 To be fair, there is nothing wrong with grinding but the activity has to be enjoyable, and there is nothing enjoyable about 1-shotting an npc every 4:30 minutes for hours at an end. At least that's where the general consensus is. I'd take the Makeb Endurance datacron -- or the Nar Shaddaa Rep Strength one -- any day over that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries_cz Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I agree, the first step of the datacron hunt on RIshi is stupid as hell. The rest looks kinda fun and cool, but to start it, *ugh*, I would take jumping over that any time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anysao Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I am pleased with it, as long as this kind of datacron hunt remains secluded to Rishi. It's clearly meant to be something like "finding hidden treasure" on the planet, which fits the theme of the pirate's cove. Now ye scurvy Core-lubber, ge'ou'ere an' gemme the shinies. Arrr! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FizzwickNuffaa Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 What's really inane is the fact that the three magic items you have to camp for are all grey. One moment of inattention at a vendor or sending your comp off to take out the trash and all your work is wasted. Thanks for playing, now please start over. I only lost one to that bit of stupid design but it is still annoying. Considered submitting a ticket but given the glacial speed of CS in this game, I can probably spawn camp a replacement faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missywink Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 (edited) Still beats the Endurance 'cron on Makeb. Now that one was sadistic. I loved that Datacron. My friend and I spent ages getting that one. Had a lot of laughs at my own fails and my friends. The sense of accomplishment when we finally got to the end was great. More like these would be fun. The grind of the new Rishi ones is just silly. Edited December 4, 2014 by Missywink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychopyro Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I'm sorry, but getting the old datacrons is the only way to fully understand the physics of the game. What physics?.. The Jump up and down and fall? LOL COD has more physics then this game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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