TUXs Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Actually, you sure can see video of it . We are still locking down details but it is our goal to do a special live stream tomorrow to show you Disciplines! We think the best way to understand the system is to show it to you. Our current plan is the stream will go from 2-3PM Central time. -eric Awesome!!! I'm really excited about this change tbh. Very interesting I'm curious though, how much will this impact a lot of out existing skills? Will players be forced to re-learn the classes all over again or are most skills staying intact (like the current class skills) and what are top tier skills now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicoZaid Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 WHEN is 3.0 suppose to come out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elminster_cs Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 They explain it quite clearly in the blog post. TL;DR - Skill trees become insanely hard to balance the more levels/points you add. I read it but i could read how WoW works... com'on is like a copy paste and I'm a big fan of swtor. This idea have throw away lot of people from WoW, I'm really shock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosfett Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 This new system could be interesting. But, since you are changing the spec system, please for the love of god, now would be a good time to create a multi-spec save option (spec, gear and keybind save), like you know, every other decent mmo on the market. Field respec has been available for so long, the quality of life that a multi-spec save option brings is greatly needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talahar Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Been saying since launch that the skill trees were an antiquated faulty system. The illusion of choice. The only choice was: look at a guide, or gimp yourself. Nice choice. When the other game got rid of the trees, they've actually changed the system for the better. Suddenly there were interesting choices, which spells should i take, they were equally valid, and did interesting things. On the other hand, the only people that enjoyed skill trees were the ones who were out to break and game the system. Especially the early establishment of role is a great thing. That should make playing the midlevels much more interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped_i Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 BW- At first glance, I would say I'm highly in favor of the new Discipline feature. I will re-iterate a request that has been made a zillion times, please also include the ability to quickly and easily change your discipline. This includes remembering the gear and hot bar settings for at least 2 diferent Disciplines. It's the joke of my entire raid group that we all need to take a 30 minute break while I respec from tank to dps on my Guardian. Now, I can acutally respec a bit faster than 30 minutes, but it's not trivial to change every gear slot, my skill tree, and my hot bars, and ensure I have everything exactly right. Including re-locking my hot bars. ^^^ This. With 3.0 would be the best time to introduce this to the game. Also we know that you are still working on details but do you have a rough estimate for when we could see 3.0 on PTS ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryuku-sama Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 I read it but i could read how WoW works... com'on is like a copy paste and I'm a big fan of swtor. This idea have throw away lot of people from WoW, I'm really shock Let see if thy make it better than WoW then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaladinn Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Awsome! update can't wait for this expansion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savej Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 WHEN is 3.0 suppose to come out? dec 2 - there's a general info link on the home page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKtheindomitable Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Retraction: I take back what I said earlier of not being able to see it. Statement: I wasn't able to access the blog from the Dev Tracker. But I was able to access it from this thread. Statement: I am very excited to see what this is going to be like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elminster_cs Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 what I'm exited for is: Fight in New High-Level Flashpoints and Operations – Team with allies to face the most epic foes in the galaxy with two new role-neutral Flashpoints, four Hard Mode Flashpoints and ten new powerful bosses across two Level 60 Operations. Starting with 10 boss and 2 operation is a good start... hope is not just this in the next year like the past one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozepy Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Been saying since launch that the skill trees were an antiquated faulty system. The illusion of choice. The only choice was: look at a guide, or gimp yourself. Nice choice. When the other game got rid of the trees, they've actually changed the system for the better. Suddenly there were interesting choices, which spells should i take, they were equally valid, and did interesting things. On the other hand, the only people that enjoyed skill trees were the ones who were out to break and game the system. Especially the early establishment of role is a great thing. That should make playing the midlevels much more interesting. You didn't play wow or you are interested by paint drying. The choices WoW gave you were peripheral, they had little to do with how you played. How about a system with actual choices instead having no choices? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckman Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Will the Utility choices be defensive/offensive cooldowns and passives, while the Disciplines will be for what you what to role play as? Will we get crazy stuff like DPS Shadows that can Force Pull? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akdonkey Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Disciplines being introduced will not allow you to change Advanced Class, just Discipline. Example, if you are a Madness Sorcerer right now you will have the option of which Discipline to move into, Corruption, Lightning, or Madness just like you do now! Also, just like now, you will be able to change Disciplines after choosing should you want to. -eric My First Dev Response here.... Sadley not one I like. Thanks for the quick answer anyways! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiTe-OuT Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 I have a feeling things are about to get CRAAZZZYYYY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theskullwalker Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Actually, you sure can see video of it . We are still locking down details but it is our goal to do a special live stream tomorrow to show you Disciplines! We think the best way to understand the system is to show it to you. Our current plan is the stream will go from 2-3PM Central time. -eric Many thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Post EricMusco Posted October 6, 2014 Dev Post Share Posted October 6, 2014 Stupid question but do I have to purchase the expansion to get Disciplines? "When you log into the expansion for the first time you will be prompted to choose your desired Discipline and utilities, and you are off and running." Not a stupid question at all! You do not need to purchase the expansion to get Disciplines. They will roll out, game-wide, with the launch of 3.0. You can find more details on that towards the bottom of the Shadow of Revan page. -eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlowe Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 I hope that "Field Respecialization" will continue to work. But yeah, +1 to being able to save the spec (at least the Utility Points chosen, as I have no idea how the thing evolves anyway) and, preferably, the quickbar layouts as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo_brother Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 This BLOWS! This is just to kill hybrids and dumb it down for remedial players and 3 year olds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrichai Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 No longer are you forced to purchase skills that are, in essence, necessary for your character to function; you simply get them automatically as you level up and progress down what we call the Discipline Path. Would be really nice if all the gold we invested in our skills this far would also be refunded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlixMV Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 I will re-iterate a request that has been made a zillion times, please also include the ability to quickly and easily change your discipline. This includes remembering the gear and hot bar settings for at least 2 diferent Disciplines. It's the joke of my entire raid group that we all need to take a 30 minute break while I respec from tank to dps on my Guardian. Now, I can acutally respec a bit faster than 30 minutes, but it's not trivial to change every gear slot, my skill tree, and my hot bars, and ensure I have everything exactly right. Including re-locking my hot bars. Although I second the request, I frequently switch from tank to DPS on my Guardian and it only takes about 5 minutes and only having to move around three skills on my hot bars. If it's taking you a long time, that sounds like a work flow thing on your part, not a problem on theirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CmdrShpd Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Would be really nice if all the gold we invested in our skills this far would also be refunded. This is a replacement for the current skill trees. You didn't invest any credits in your skill tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uaintjak Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Will disciplines allow me to have more than 22 character slots on a server? Yes, I know they aren't related, I just want more slots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elminster_cs Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Not a stupid question at all! You do not need to purchase the expansion to get Disciplines. They will roll out, game-wide, with the launch of 3.0. You can find more details on that towards the bottom of the Shadow of Revan page. -eric What about Disciplines double/triple spec with gear mem and easy change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oyranos Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 (edited) I smell a port to consoles here... lol so these rumors a month or 2 ago.... was actually true? Everybody said, NO WAY because it said : port to consoles... what this discipline thing do, is a smell of a console port. Bring back the skill trees! lol I suggest a new skill tree called RIOT. Edited October 6, 2014 by Oyranos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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