Malckiah Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 When Ranked came out it changed the pvp class needs, as you then had more seasoned players planning every match. If you have played in ranked then you know that there are a couple of classes that every time get gang raped or as they say focused hard..... one of them being the Commando another Sage. Sage has the option to bubble through it, Commando has the option to die. This is not why I am making this thread though. Recently I have noticed that when facing Sith Warriors/Jedi Knights they force leap to me and I have NO way to get distance.... concussive charge does not knock them back, my freeze does nothing, etc. So now imagine what this does in ranked. I already had no way to stay alive during heavy focus, now I have no way to even get a little distance. Thanks.... I have now officially stopped playing my main character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashogy_reborn Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 You can use Hold the Line to run away. The Knights/Warriors leaping to you are probably Guardians/Juggs and in a certain spec have immunity to CC effects after leaping. It only lasts a few seconds, so just dont blow your defensive-CC abilities while it is active Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malckiah Posted April 26, 2014 Author Share Posted April 26, 2014 I can run away without hold the line.... but that does not assist me with the problem I have described.... it's too slow and doesn't get the distance needed quick enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxmob Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 (edited) I can run away without hold the line.... but that does not assist me with the problem I have described.... it's too slow and doesn't get the distance needed quick enough you can take the reactive shield immunity. it's 2nd tier heal spec now. lol - scratch that. been leveling mirror class and misread something. you can hold the line to break the leap root. are you complaining that they can always leap to you but not to snipers? I haven't played ranked in 2.7 yet, but traditionally, mandos are the hardest of the 3 ranged classes to burn down. however, if they're gunnery, they tend to get focused because they're easy to nullify with interrupts...respec? sages are easiest to push into bubble. snipers are fasted TTK. mandos have the best mitigation. you all still die. iunno. not quite sure what you're asking. Edited April 27, 2014 by foxmob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom_VI Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 I can run away without hold the line.... but that does not assist me with the problem I have described.... it's too slow and doesn't get the distance needed quick enough Then use shockstrike to root them in place and then run away with HTL while they are sitting there rooted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashogy_reborn Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Then use shockstrike to root them in place and then run away with HTL while they are sitting there rooted. You cant root a Guard/Jugg that is spec'd into the CC immunity after leap. Which is what the OP is talking about I guess. And like I already said, pop HtL immediately after the leap to run away for the few seconds until you can CC the Guard/Jugg. You can be successful with Commando in Ranked. Its just not easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerensk Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 The jugg immunity is 4 seconds. Start running and counting. When you reach 4, if they are still on you knock them back. Or if they have 2 lightsabers you can knock them back right after they leap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom_VI Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 The jugg immunity is 4 seconds. Start running and counting. When you reach 4, if they are still on you knock them back. Or if they have 2 lightsabers you can knock them back right after they leap. Except jugs can't do anything until the 1.5 GCD after their leap completes so they only have 2.5 seconds to actually do anything before unremitting runs out. If they go to MS you right after the leap, you HTL out of it, and then kite them since they don't have unremitting. Conversely you can just stun or KB them in the .5 second window that Ms isn't protected. Seriously there is no reason a Mando should ever be facetanking a melee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManiacDavis Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Commando is in a way better place now than previously. If you are having difficulty, check out how other people play. For example this http://www.twitch.tv/rrmaniac/b/523208478 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NathanielStarr Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Commando is in a way better place now than previously. If you are having difficulty, check out how other people play. For example this http://www.twitch.tv/rrmaniac/b/523208478 Am I the only one that didn't find that all that impressive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManiacDavis Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 (edited) Am I the only one that didn't find that all that impressive? It's two hours of 4v4 ranked warzones, so I doubt u watched the whole thing in the 10 minutes i posted it and your reply. Previously, having a commando on ur team = automatic loss. Now, commandos have a fighting chance and can compete in 4v4s. If you watched it, you may have also seen the concerted effort to CC the healer as opposed to the common new player's mentality of killing the healer. In addition, Commando is one of the few classes with an instant 8 second CC (Tech Overrride + CC). Edited April 27, 2014 by ManiacDavis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sangrar Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Am I the only one that didn't find that all that impressive? real mature insulting his video that you barely watched... I have seen this guy around the fleet and in a few warzones in the past and he is very good, you can learn a lot from him if only you will drop the attitude... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyronamics Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 It's two hours of 4v4 ranked warzones, so I doubt u watched the whole thing in the 10 minutes i posted it and your reply. Previously, having a commando on ur team = automatic loss. Now, commandos have a fighting chance and can compete in 4v4s. If you watched it, you may have also seen the concerted effort to CC the healer as opposed to the common new player's mentality of killing the healer. Commando is now the only class with an instant 8 second CC (Tech Overrride + CC). http://www.torhead.com/ability/fT8pWgj/flash-grenade Not to mention saps before combat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxmob Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 http://www.torhead.com/ability/fT8pWgj/flash-grenade Not to mention saps before combat. LOL anybody listen to the Dan Lebatard Show? "He's -- that -- guy." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManiacDavis Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 http://www.torhead.com/ability/fT8pWgj/flash-grenade Not to mention saps before combat. You're completely right, I misspoke. For some reason, in my head I grouped flashbang and awe as an AOE cc in a different class from concussion and force lift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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