astrobearx Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 (edited) If you wish to purchase Treek using Cartel Coins there is no Legacy level requirement. The Legacy level requirement is only if you wish to use credits. -eric awesome eric, thanks:) edit LOL all the tears from the "veterans" are delicious, please QQ more and unsub, i sure superman_AZ and us "lazy , entitled, have it now " casuals will spend enough cash to recoup your sub(s) lost within a month as always...EWOK FOR CC;) Edited July 6, 2013 by astrobearx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman_AZ Posted July 6, 2013 Author Share Posted July 6, 2013 Suggestion: Please have an item that can instantly raise our level to 55. Signed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman_AZ Posted July 6, 2013 Author Share Posted July 6, 2013 Can those who are against to this have some sort of a petition? It seems that what they're doing is not fair - especially those who pretty much worked their way to legacy level 40. Hey folks, Just wanted to let you know that no petition is necessary, you will be able to acquire Treek via Cartel Market if you so choose. Having her be a part of the Legacy system allowed an avenue for players to get her without spending any of their Cartel Coins if they wanted! -eric They don't care much for petitions Even the one that would have gone in our favor anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlon_Nabarlly Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 If you wish to purchase Treek using Cartel Coins there is no Legacy level requirement. The Legacy level requirement is only if you wish to use credits. -eric You guys really never learn do you. So you value the subs buy giving them 500 ccs which a lot of them could care less about and you make everything we worked for gained by money. It's not P2W but it's a slap in the face to people that actually played the game long enough to earn a high legacy level. Thanks for continuing to not value the subs. It's no wonder there's a post about one several leaving everyday in here. :-/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idnewton Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 If you wish to purchase Treek using Cartel Coins there is no Legacy level requirement. The Legacy level requirement is only if you wish to use credits. -eric I think the real questions are these: #1: Does the story have to be completed on at least one character before you can use cartel coins? #2: How many Cartel Coins does she cost? I do hope the story must be completed before using Cartel Coins, just as HK was. That would reduce the 'P2W' concerns a little bit. Also, I hope she is a reasonable price. Subscribers get a bare minimum of 500 a month, and just got 500 extra. I hope she is something reasonable like the 350 I've been hearing HK costs. In other words: HK wasn't P2W. You could argue it, because of his crafting bonuses, but the fact is that you still have to do the quest. A rather in-depth quest, I might add. Note that every single one of Eric Musco's information bits about Treek apply to HK as well. He's part of the legacy system. He can be bought with credits, or with Cartel Coins. He is a universal crafter. All these things are the same, so I think the true question, Eric, is this: Is she set up the exact same as HK? Must you complete the story on one character before buying her on others, and can you complete the story on multiple characters so that you needn't pay the 1 million or the undisclosed amount of CC? Because, if this isn't the case, it should be. We liked how you handled HK. So I strongly suggest you either do the same here, or confirm that you already have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NilethStar Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 I think the real questions are these: #1: Does the story have to be completed on at least one character before you can use cartel coins? #2: How many Cartel Coins does she cost? I do hope the story must be completed before using Cartel Coins, just as HK was. That would reduce the 'P2W' concerns a little bit. Also, I hope she is a reasonable price. Subscribers get a bare minimum of 500 a month, and just got 500 extra. I hope she is something reasonable like the 350 I've been hearing HK costs. In other words: HK wasn't P2W. You could argue it, because of his crafting bonuses, but the fact is that you still have to do the quest. A rather in-depth quest, I might add. Note that every single one of Eric Musco's information bits about Treek apply to HK as well. He's part of the legacy system. He can be bought with credits, or with Cartel Coins. He is a universal crafter. All these things are the same, so I think the true question, Eric, is this: Is she set up the exact same as HK? Must you complete the story on one character before buying her on others, and can you complete the story on multiple characters so that you needn't pay the 1 million or the undisclosed amount of CC? Because, if this isn't the case, it should be. We liked how you handled HK. So I strongly suggest you either do the same here, or confirm that you already have. There is no story or quest for Treek. You walk up to a vendor buy a certificate and then you unlock them. No long quest chain like HK which doesn't really surprise me if they are going to make it on the cartel market with no requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleet_Xia Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 What is the point of even grinding the rep to get the companion if I could have just played wallet warrior? LAME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatanka Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Hopefully the CM cost for the ewok is around 5000cc. I know. Wishful thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordArtemis Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 People once said that getting rid of corpse runs, giving mounts at lower levels, removing permadeath and removing or limiting death penalties were destroying games. As games march forward to appeal to a wider casual audience folks tend to complain. Simply put, traditional or hardcore players are now the minority in the market, and have mostly moved on to other more challenging games. The MMO market is now supported by casual players, and as such is slowly transforming to cater to that playerbase. One can say this is destroying games...or one could say it is symptomatic of hardcore gamers no longer having interest. I think it's the latter, and I think MMOs are better for the loss. When I want challenging play or PVP I load up Battlefield or Call of Duty. When I want to be entertained I play an MMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NilethStar Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 What is the point of even grinding the rep to get the companion if I could have just played wallet warrior? LAME. This probably won't be the first time this happens. The fact there is no reason to grind anything anymore and just throw cash at the game, is probably going to become the norm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NilethStar Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 People once said that getting rid of corpse runs, giving mounts at lower levels, removing permadeath and removing or limiting death penalties were destroying games. As games march forward to appeal to a wider casual audience folks tend to complain. Simply put, traditional or hardcore players are now the minority in the market, and have mostly moved on to other more challenging games. The MMO market is now supported by casual players, and as such is slowly transforming to cater to that playerbase. One can say this is destroying games...or one could say it is symptomatic of hardcore gamers no longer having interest. I think it's the latter, and I think MMOs are better for the loss. When I want challenging play or PVP I load up Battlefield or Call of Duty. When I want to be entertained I play an MMO. You bringing up challenge and battlefield is ridiculous. I feel that MMOs are worse for the loss of hardcore gamers because without hardcore players it becomes a single player game. Why have raids with casuals running the game? Why have any sort of gear progression if casuals run the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosiett Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Eh, as someone with legacy 50 and no credits to spare, I'll be using CC. Agreed. More important things to spend credits on. Finally, something fun for using my CC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idnewton Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 There is no story or quest for Treek. You walk up to a vendor buy a certificate and then you unlock them. No long quest chain like HK which doesn't really surprise me if they are going to make it on the cartel market with no requirements. It's a part of the legacy system, not the Cartel Market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NilethStar Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 It's a part of the legacy system, not the Cartel Market. Then why can you bypass the legacy level and 1mil with cartel coins? It isn't like HK where you had to finish the quest first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderKeeva Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 (edited) Considering that subscribers earn Cartel Coins, too, why keep the legacy requirement in place at all? Requirements should be consistent, either legacy 40 for both options or no legacy requirements for either options. In its current form, its blatantly obvious that the devs don't care the slightest about people who actually devote a lot of their time to playing the game. They just want everyone to use CCs for everything. If they had any sense it would either be: 1. CC option: legacy 40 + CC; Legacy option: legacy 40 + 1 million credits 2. CC option: no legacy + CC; Legacy option: no legacy + 1 million credits 3. CC option: no legacy + CC; Legacy option: legacy 40 + no credits Since they obviously rejected option 1, they should either pick 2 or 3. Removing the legacy requirement from the credit purchase option or make the unlock free at legacy 40. I believe option 3 could still show us that the devs still care about the hardcore gamers that did devote a lot of their time to playing the game and actually reached legacy 40. But like this? The credit purchase option is completely irrelevant since even subscribers will bypass it with Cartel Coins to save credits. Go ahead Bioware, keep alienating your players... Edited July 6, 2013 by CommanderKeeva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno_Tarshil Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Then why can you bypass the legacy level and 1mil with cartel coins? It isn't like HK where you had to finish the quest first. Because you can do this with other Legacy achievements already in-game? Why should this be any different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desolaytore Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 (edited) This is the kind of attitude that is destroying video games. If you can't put in the time you shouldn't be able to buy your way out. I bet you wish you could buy HK 51 on the cartel market because the quest is too long. The people who don't have legacy 40 should not be able to get this. ^^^^^^ No wonder why they keep shelling out CM updates, for idiots like him. This guy also wants this ".Level Cap Token - 10k Cartel Coins / 3 month cooldown: Allows player to instantly grant one character levels bringing him or her up to lvl 55. You would still have to go back and run class missions to get your companion. This would simply be an additional option. " - Cartel Suggestions So yes... let's continue supporting the casuals Edited July 6, 2013 by Desolaytore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth-Malice Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 If you wish to purchase Treek using Cartel Coins there is no Legacy level requirement. The Legacy level requirement is only if you wish to use credits. -eric Hey thanks for nothing. Tell your bosses they are doing a great job ordering you too kill the game and circumvent any real content in the sake of making money. I know you know this and can't comment. But let it sink in more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idnewton Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Then why can you bypass the legacy level and 1mil with cartel coins? It isn't like HK where you had to finish the quest first. I think perhaps you're forgetting the exact specifics of how HK-51 unlocking works. You must do the quest to gain the Global Unlock. On that character, the perk is also unlocked. However, if you do want the companion on another character but do not want to redo the quest, you need only buy the perk. The perk requires the Global Unlock, which can only be obtained through completing the question chain. My theory is that Treek is designed the same way, except there is no Global Unlock. You don't need a Global Unlock to buy the Treek perk, either (because there is no global unlock). Also, the Cartel Market only deals in Cartel Coins, unlike the legacy system which can also accept credits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno_Tarshil Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 ^^^^^^ No wonder why they keep shelling out CM updates, for idiots like him. This guy also wants this ".Level Cap Token - 10k Cartel Coins / 3 month cooldown: Allows player to instantly grant one character levels bringing him or her up to lvl 55. You would still have to go back and run class missions to get your companion. This would simply be an additional option. " - Cartel Suggestions So yes... let's continue supporting the casuals Casuals fund your game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desolaytore Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Casuals fund your game. Tell them to fund me an Expansion. A Big expansion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NilethStar Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Casuals fund your game. Tell them to fund me some Operations and flashpoints. Tell them to fund me some Legacy gear for legacy 50. Instead of Cartel Market ********. Just because someone can get something in a video game does not mean everyone should have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno_Tarshil Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Tell them to fund me some Operations and flashpoints. Tell them to fund me some Legacy gear for legacy 50. Instead of Cartel Market ********. Just because someone can get something in a video game does not mean everyone should have it. 2 New flashpoints are coming 2.3 and NIM of the two level 5 Ops have just been released. You get a Legacy Title upon reaching Legacy 50 "Living Legend". There It's been funded now go simmer down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NilethStar Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 2 New flashpoints are coming 2.3 and NIM of the two level 5 Ops have just been released. You get a Legacy Title upon reaching Legacy 50 "Living Legend". There It's been funded now go simmer down. TfB Nim which really isn't new content it is the same content we have had for quite some time now. Hopefully the new flashpoints are just like Lost Island was when it first came out. The legacy title is absolutely nothing, getting a title after putting in so much time into a game is terrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderKeeva Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 TfB Nim which really isn't new content it is the same content we have had for quite some time now. Hopefully the new flashpoints are just like Lost Island was when it first came out. The legacy title is absolutely nothing, getting a title after putting in so much time into a game is terrible Sorry to disappoint but with the role options removed and the first 4 random people thrown together in the group finder, the new flashpoints are nowhere as difficult as lost island was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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