The weird people you meet in Group Finder.

[rantboi]

is that how the "I'm undergeared" **** started too? you whispered someone and said you want to join but are undergeared, they said it doesn't matter because there's bolster and invited, you declined because obviously they didn't want you in the group?

[Halinalle]

is that how the "I'm undergeared" **** started too? you whispered someone and said you want to join but are undergeared, they said it doesn't matter because there's bolster and invited, you declined because obviously they didn't want you in the group?

 

No, there was actual requirement of 50k hp for EV SM in 3.0.

[rantboi]

No, there was actual requirement of 50k hp for EV SM in 3.0.

 

they were trolling you.

[BlueShiftRecall]

Log on to Odessen to run a SF on my main see a group LF1M and think I’d join as I’ve had good quick runs lately with random SF groups. I whisper them and get an invite, as soon as I accept the group leader says he and a guild-mate will be along in a moment just have to finish something on another planet. I think fine I’ll wait a little awhile. Ten minutes later they say something along the lines of, “lol forgot about SF coming now” they arrive on Odessen and one starts telling us about how rich he is but they won’t actually go into the instance. They start pretending it’s not letting them in and just general screwing around in chat and I leave instance and notice for the first time they’re part of an infamous troll guild and instantly drop group as they were obviously just trolling me and the other person, not 1 minute later I get abusive whispers calling me a NOOB, stupid, dumb etc: the usual insults before I ignore them. There goes me joining any SF groups with others for a little while now and I'd been on such a good run lately to Edited January 30, 2016 by BlueShiftRecall

[Halinalle]

EV SM

 

I join a group on fleet and noticed there's level 43 Sage in group. I said "Not sure if level 43 can enter..". I got kicked second after. I asked why and leader explained that my level is too low to do any ops. I explained how I got to level 65 within 8 hours from KotFE early access start so I've been at level 65 quite long on that character. I got invite from him soon after.

 

We get through bosses easily. Only at last boss we fail at our first attempt. 50% of us died when floor dropped.

One sentinel keeps the fight going and we ask him to stuck it or kill himself. He left (why? oh, why?) before our next attempt and we ended up defeating Soa with only 7 members.

 

Leader was good at loot thing (used ML) upto this point... He took the mainhand. Taking mainhand isn't the big issue but ninja'ing is. 1 token per person means that everyone who hasn't gotten token yet at this point should have equal chance to get it. No, there wasn't any "I take MH" rule either. Unless they decided that when I wasn't in the group.

Edited January 31, 2016 by Halinalle

[BobFredJohn]

Stange run with my mara earlier.

 

I got to the part in my story where I unlock dark side Jeasa for the purposes of conversations and influence (vette is so picky). Once there I decide to wash away the boredom of solo content away with a TFP. I queue up for all but BH with my 37 mara and get a pop. Accept it only to find its selected KDY. I suppose I will have to carry on being bored for another15 or 20 minutes.

 

Group is my 37 mara, with it LP status, a 65 sorc with LP, 65 mara and 27 sorc. Everybody is dps. First scenario is hanger we do the ground floor and stop off at the elite def on the way to the top. I pull. I then hold aggro for most of the fight despite aggro dumping on CD, relying on DCD rotation to keep me alive, but cant manage it and die with elite def at 2%. The other 3 kill and loot, I ask for res and they tell me to med centre and run back, then all 3 run off to next pull.

 

I med centre and run back, meanwhile the other 3 are waiting by ambush. I am just coming up the flight of stairs from the second to the top floor when the 65 sorc puts a vote kick on me for wasting time. I quickly point out I would have got there much sooner if someone had taken the 5 (or 6?) seconds to res me rather than the 30 or 40 it takes to run from med centre.

 

I just love it when me, with my missing procs and rotational abilities, can out dps level 65's, then get blamed for dying whilst receiving no heals from a group with 2 sorcs.

[Torvai]

You don't see it as much anymore, as ya underlurker got nerfed hard in 4.0. But the idea was mostly that people wanted to actually beat the operation and not spend a couple hours wiping then leave (especially as underlurker the biggest issue was the dps check a lot of the time, mechanics you can teach during an op, dps you really can't).

 

Yeah, as if Lurker was hard to begin with. So they made it even easier?

[ShawDou]

Yeah, as if Lurker was hard to begin with. So they made it even easier?

 

Lurker was hard in a matter that all group had to follow mechanics, if one screw up and there was not enough good DPS in group it would mostly mean repeatable wipes.

[Overmind]

It's a little more sync than DPs.

[KhirsahRoshah]

Just came out of a Czerka Core Meltdown. The initial group had a lowbie Commando healer, a level 41 Scrapper, me on my level 65 DPS Sage, and... this guy.

 

Level 50, named after the protagonist of a film series starring Stallone, Vanguard, queued as DPS, on Ion Cell but wearing DPS gear. I pointed out the gear, just in case he had another set, got a "yup" like it was perfectly normal to tank in DPS greens, and when asked he said he was a tank. I never bothered looking at the procs, but he couldn't hold aggro to save his life, charged in and then backed away to attack from range, and didn't respond when I asked for Guard multiple times, even after demonstrating that I was ripping from him.

 

We get to the Duneclaw. Meanwhile, I'm holding a whispered convo with the Legendary Player Scrapper who clearly knows what she's doing, saying "it's one of those tanks" "yeah, once in a while we get one of those" "let's hope he at least knows the fights" "he has the achievements, at least" "let's hope he didn't get them while taking a dirt nap".

 

Nope. This guy doesn't know what he's doing. The first sandstorm hits, Scrapper and I, easily holding aggro, pull the Duneclaw to the glowing generator, and he taunts it away from us, wandering around like a lunatic. Lowbie healer can't keep up, Scrapper and I can't keep up with offheals as the DoT keeps ticking, we wipe.

 

The guy gets summarily kicked, we get another Commando healer, rest of FP goes normally with facetanking Sage. I hate that stupid Vrblther.

 

 

EDIT: A few hours before that, I was in a carnival of lunacy in a Manaan run. A Sage DPS at 28, a Sentinel at 62, a 60+ Commando DPS, and my DPS Scoundrel at 65. They all had Manaan achievements and I didn't get any responses to "who hasn't done this before", so hey, what can possibly go wrong?

 

Answer: Everything.

 

There was nothing they couldn't do. Pulls before everyone was in the area, opening with Mortar Volley and then melt to Elite, pull with Twin Saber Throw and then run away with Force Camo without calling LoS, melee Sage, standing in stupid, gold fever, Concussion Charge and Force Wave on cooldown...

 

At the second pull, quickly realizing just how BAD it was going to get, I lose my patience and say "I don't peel stupid", which is quickly followed by "I don't heal stupid" and "I don't rez stupid" as the inevitable happens very, very fast.

 

They wiped the floor with their faces repeatedly, and I was already planning to keep a tally on Ortuno wipes.

 

Miraculously, we made it through Sairisi with only the Sage dying. I'm torn between extreme frustration and hilarity as the Sentinel keeps pulling and running away from his own messes, while the Commando is constantly trying to catch up after their latest death. I did the jerk move of standing stealthed in front of them a few times as they died to their lunatic KDY-tier pulls.

 

After the three of them died AGAIN on trash, I eventually said "so, is anyone going to admit to not knowing what they are doing?" Deafening silence. Yeah, I wasn't nice. At this point, none of them deserved it.

 

Consoles section. I stealth and dash ahead to grab one. The Commando has a moment of insight and says "wait, let the Scoundrel get them!" and an instant later the Sentinel engages mobs at the other console. They wipe, I mop up their mess with timely stuns/droid CC saving my squishy green behind.

 

"rez"

"I don't rez stupid"

 

They run back in, the Sentinel immediately pulls the group before Ortuno with Twin Saber Throw, obviously without waiting for the rest.

 

Meanwhile, in my chat box, I get a whisper from my Actually Competent FP mates: "so, we're ready to run now". I decided enough was enough. We hadn't even made it to Ortuno.

 

Stealth out, "It's unbelievable how such bads made it to level cap", drop group, exit area.

Edited February 2, 2016 by KhirsahRoshah

[SteveTheCynic]

There goes me joining any SF groups with others for a little while now and I'd been on such a good run lately to

Joining SF groups? Why would you do that? I wouldn't, 'cept maybe to shepherd some of my guildies through one.

 

(That said, yesterday I learned that you can get flung up to the tops of the walls of the final boss arena. That was weird. And the stupid sod died under the floor, with just a purple loot column showing.)

[PLynkes]

And the stupid sod died under the floor, with just a purple loot column showing.

 

That happened to me, and I couldn't click him. If you log out, log back in, and then re-enter the fortress, you'll hopefully find him lying on the floor as he should be, and he will be lootable. Worked for me.

[Halinalle]

Taral V on my level 34 Sentinel.

 

We get to last boss but... No one else interrupts Full Auto so I have to do it. They also don't step away from that other AoE attack that can't interrupted. They just took those shots like a boss. There was also level 65 Assault Specialist Commando who only had one burn on anything, the one from cell. My level 34 Sentinel has two: Force Melt (can't be maintained) and Cauterize. How is that possible?

 

We wiped twice and I decided to give up.

Edited February 1, 2016 by Halinalle

[BobFredJohn]

Just had a fun gf DF run. I was tanking. The problem was the other tank, they were a dps in ion cell.

 

Get to first boss, it starts off fine until the other tank keeps moving towards the boss, making it step back and push it into the group. All the dps are running around frantically trying to get out the way. After the fight the other tank has a go at me for boss positioning, I was not supposed to keep it near the stairs. I point out I have tanked that multiple times for guild runs and a couple other pugs and nobody ever told me to move the boss.

 

get to the second boss, we start, adds appear and I go tank the ones on the left, as I was on the left of the ops frame. I spin the camera and see the enemies from the right are running amok among the group so I go back in and tank them too. More adds show up, I run around grabbing all aggro. More turn up and I carry on tanking.

 

Meanwhile draxus comes back down and I notice the other tank is attacking draxus, there are still adds up. I assume the other tank is tanking the boss and leaving me to pick up adds. So that's what I do. Tbh whenever I have done draxus before in guild runs its been rather simple: attack boss, kill adds, attack boss, kill adds, attack boss, kill adds, be wary of the dual wielding ones with the purple sabers, attack boss....etc.

 

However in this run we spend the entire time with adds up, and the boss down the majority of the time too. I am wondering if the mechanics have changed. Due to a total of 2 interrupts on corruptors throughout the entire fight (both by me) we wipe.

 

The other tank tells me to taunt the boss, and asks why I didn't. I reply "well I saw you attacking him so assumed you were doing it."

him: "why would I tank in a solo tank fight?"

me: "oh, that explains it, you are making no effort to tank and as a dps are attacking the boss while adds are still up."

him: "that's how its done"

me: "that's not how its done in my guild runs, and we never struggle here"

him: "just tank all the adds and taunt boss on CD, that's how you do it properly"

me: "ok" (I assume at this point the fight mechanics have changed and there are parts of the fight in which adds are up at the same time as the boss).

 

We pull again, I run around the room like a mainiac trying to keep aggro on everything on screen. Boss comes down after and while and I notice he has me as his target, no need to taunt it yet then. I am now stood tanking the adds with aggro on the boss. The boss then targets me with his conal, I move it away from the group and get called a retard by the other "tank" for moving the adds out of aoe. Therefore, next time, I stay still during boss conal, and get called a retard by the other "tank" for facing the boss towards the group.

 

I would have explained to him the concept of tanking, the fact it is done in melee, and the fact the ranged adds are spread all over the room, hence me running all over the place and dragging boss conal everywhere. However I figured explaining that to this idiot would have taken a long time so I don't bother. Instead I do my best to tank every enemy and the boss (who btw never leaves the floor after the first time he went up) and we complete the pull.

 

Get to the third boss. I pull and start tanking, the other "tank" taunts. I find that strange after he told me to solo tank draxus because he is dps, but now we have an easily solo-tanked boss he is taunting? Then I realise why, when he writes in chat "learn to tank noob, I keep ripping off you." I would taunt back except I see the adds are up so I go and grab them and let the other tank do the boss. I have to regularly taunt off him to do the magnet mechanic as he doesn't know it (or decided to ignore it).

 

At one point a sent rips aggro off the other tank, who does not taunt back and I am busy soloing adds (did I mention none of the dps attacked adds on this one, and only 2 did on draxus). The sent dies and the boss then goes for a sage dps. I switch to the boss, taunt it and drag it into the magnet while the other "tank" writes "are you going to keep aggro off the dps?"

me: "I assumed you were tanking the boss, seeing as you taunt every time I get aggro"

him: "lol well you keep moving the boss around pointlessly"

me: "you know magnet mechanic?"

him: "I main dps" (I take that as a no)

 

We kill the boss and the other tank kicks me (he was op leader) and writes in op chat that they will get a proper tank in replacement. 3 dps and both healers drop group and call the op leader an idiot on the way out.

Edited February 1, 2016 by BobFredJohn

[PorsaLindahl]

Level 50, named after the protagonist of a film series starring Stallone, Vanguard, queued as DPS, on Ion Cell but wearing DPS gear. I pointed out the gear, just in case he had another set, got a "yup" like it was perfectly normal to tank in DPS greens, and when asked he said he was a tank. I never bothered looking at the procs, but he couldn't hold aggro to save his life, charged in and then backed away to Full Auto from range, and didn't respond when I asked for Guard multiple times, even after demonstrating that I was ripping from him.

 

Vanguards don't have Full Auto. Haven't had it for months. Maybe he was using Hammer Shot to proc his Ion Cell. Still no reason to move to ranged for that. But if someone's going to be a fool, let them be a fool for what they're doing. Don't try to make them look worse than they are by glossing it over with imaginary skills. That just makes you look foolish, as well.

[KhirsahRoshah]

Vanguards don't have Full Auto. Haven't had it for months. Maybe he was using Hammer Shot to proc his Ion Cell. Still no reason to move to ranged for that. But if someone's going to be a fool, let them be a fool for what they're doing. Don't try to make them look worse than they are by glossing it over with imaginary skills. That just makes you look foolish, as well.

 

Wouldn't know, I don't play a Vanguard! Looked like it and I was busy enough trying to keep stuff off the healer, so yeah, probably Hammer Shot.

[Iraena]

So I've been reading this thread but never posted anything. I have had some bad groups but before this one none of them have really stuck with me and this one wasn't bad as such simply odd.

 

Queue up for a hardmode flashpoint for my daily crystals on my assassin, I'm dps so I know wait times can be long. Eventually a group pops up, make up is myself, another 65 dps, 65 healer and a 55 tank. Alright, it can work if it's not any of the harder HMs. Zone in and it's Mando Raiders so I'm thinking that we can manage.

 

Say hello in chat and wait for others to get ready. Out of habit I inspect the tank, seen way too many sign as dps. Not good: mainly green dps gear and not even a shield. So we're still at the start, I'm stealthed as usual since I open combat from stealth. Here it bears saying that I'm a very slow typer which isn't helped by the fact that english isn't my first language. So I begin writing to group chat about a question to our tank about his gear, could be he has tank gear and needs to swap and there's no need to be rude. While I'm typing away it's likely our healer notices the same and drops out without a word.

 

This is where things take a turn for the strange. Our 2nd dps instantly types: 'Anyone else not a noob?' in chat. I'm still typing my previous question but decide to answer this fellow instead, however, before I manage this he says he's ignoring us both. Simultaneously tank creeps along the first corridor prompting the combat with the 3 normal mobs from the elevator and runs straight to us. 3 normals don't take long to mop up. 2nd dps starts porting out and tank leaves also. I'm left standing alone in first corridor of Mando Raiders being .

 

Zone out myself thinking that it happens and prepare to queue again. Still out of a mix of curiosity and a desire to clarify that I hadn't really done anything wrong I attempt a whisper to our 2nd dps. Yep I'm on ignore for the first time in my MMO career.

Edited February 3, 2016 by Iraena

[Saelinne]

'

So I've been reading this thread but never posted anything. I have had some bad groups but before this one none of them have really stuck with me and this one wasn't bad as such simply odd.

 

Queue up for a hardmode flashpoint for my daily crystals on my assassin, I'm dps so I know wait times can be long. Eventually a group pops up, make up is myself, another 65 dps, 65 healer and a 55 tank. Alright, it can work if it's not any of the harder HMs. Zone in and it's Mando Raiders so I'm thinking that we can manage.

 

Say hello in chat and wait for others to get ready. Out of habit I inspect the tank, seen way too many sign as dps. Not good: mainly green dps gear and not even a shield. So we're still at the start, I'm stealthed as usual since I open combat from stealth. Here it bears saying that I'm a very slow typer which isn't helped by the fact that english isn't my first language. So I begin writing to group chat about a question to our tank about his gear, could be he has tank gear and needs to swap and there's no need to be rude. While I'm typing away it's likely our healer notices the same and drops out without a word.

 

This is where things take a turn for the strange. Our 2nd dps instantly types: 'Anyone else not a noob?' in chat. I'm still typing my previous question but decide to answer this fellow instead, however, before I manage this he says he's ignoring us both. Simultaneously tank creeps along the first corridor prompting the combat with the 3 normal mobs from the elevator and runs straight to us. 3 normals don't take long to mop up. 2nd dps starts porting out and tank leaves also. I'm left standing alone in first corridor of Mando Raiders being .

 

Zone out myself thinking that it happens and prepare to queue again. Still out of a mix of curiosity and a desire to clarify that I hadn't really done anything wrong I attempt a whisper to our 2nd dps. Yep I'm on ignore for the first time in my MMO career.

 

Eh don't worry too much about it - such people as the second dps are usually who the word 'noob' is invented for:) Don't get me wrong if you are good enough to carry them (by either gear or player skill) they can be...ok as they usually do their job well enough. Problem with them is that they think of themselves more skilled than they are and if there is no more experienced player there (who is willing to take command) they can lead to bad group experience...or disband:)

....still I somewhat understand this dps...although horrible lack of patience I am afraid that I can act in similar manner. Did you say ''hi'' or whatever (heya (which my mind always adds ''it's me Imoen''....ugh and now I want to reply bg2..../sigh) or similar greeting) at the start of the FP? I know you said you are slow typer, but if you haven't said anything there is a chance people might assume you are ignoring them:)

[Iraena]

I always say hi in group chat, even with my typing speed hello or hi isn't that slow. I also try to fit in a 'thank you for the group' and a bye after fp but sometimes group disbands pretty quickly.

[Saelinne]

I always say hi in group chat, even with my typing speed hello or hi isn't that slow. I also try to fit in a 'thank you for the group' and a bye after fp but sometimes group disbands pretty quickly.

 

Yea I know what you mean...before 3.0 I always teleported to the fleet to talk to the FP giver for social points (with the group ofcourse)...and usually no on else would so it just ended awkward:D

...now I learned just to type ''thanks for the group/party' (or ''thanks for the fun group'' if it was really nice party for whatever reason)' right after we beat the final boss....

Edited February 3, 2016 by Saelinne

[KhirsahRoshah]

Tactical Korriban Incursion. The level 60 Sorc "healer" wasn't doing any healing, and I wasn't seeing any procs come up. And I mean any.

 

Eventually I asked them what their role was, before the first boss. "Healer", they said. "I'll run the kolto stations." That was all the healing they ever bothered doing, and they died in the fight. "Lol, it never used to do that."

 

I asked what their tree was. "None. I change depending on which group I'm in."

 

"Please select Corruption," I asked. No, they didn't select it then either; they were literally running without a specialization, and chose to leave the group instead of adding a spec.

 

In parting, I got the always nice "calm your t*ts, it's only a game". Classy person!

Edited February 4, 2016 by KhirsahRoshah

[aerockyul]

Tactical Korriban Incursion. The level 60 Sorc "healer" wasn't doing any healing, and I wasn't seeing any procs come up. And I mean any.

 

Eventually I asked them what their role was, before the first boss. "Healer", they said. "I'll run the kolto stations." That was all the healing they ever bothered doing, and they died in the fight. "Lol, it never used to do that."

 

I asked what their tree was. "None. I change depending on which group I'm in."

 

"Please select Corruption," I asked. No, they didn't select it then either; they were literally running without a specialization, and chose to leave the group instead of adding a spec.

 

In parting, I got the always nice "calm your t*ts, it's only a game". Classy person!

 

I think the highlighted strategy is a good way to tell when someone is new, as in post-4.0 new. I posted a story a few pages back about someone who had a "pattern" worked out on which ones to press and when, as if the boss fight was elaborately timed in a way that if you DIDN'T use the pattern you would die no matter what. But at least in my case that was a group of four DPS and three of them were new and panicky and I simply couldn't carry three of them with just my DPS (which was happening up to the last boss fight anyway, but it just hit a wall where that wouldn't work anymore, no matter the kolto strategy employed).

For a "healer" to use it as their "strategy" is cringe-worthy. When I play my healers the only time I use the kolto stations is if all three newbs do something like stand in the same circle, take the damage, then scatter just as I'm laying down an AOE heal (happens more than I care to say )

[lomnickyjozef]

ok so what do u think about player ive met today we queud for random fp we got fals emperor one member quited cuz we wanted bonus,so we quued group for fourth member,18lvl guardian appeared then sage or shadow dont remember correctly kicked her from group just fro that she was lvl 18 i think this shouldnt happen even if she was 18 kick her from group just for that is wrong dond u think?

[aerockyul]

ok so what do u think about player ive met today we queud for random fp we got fals emperor one member quited cuz we wanted bonus,so we quued group for fourth member,18lvl guardian appeared then sage or shadow dont remember correctly kicked her from group just fro that she was lvl 18 i think this shouldnt happen even if she was 18 kick her from group just for that is wrong dond u think?

 

Unfortunately some people do not have the skills and awareness to complete a flashpoint without being carried...and I'm not talking about the lvl 18 person that got kicked, I'm talking about the two "pros" who voted to kick her.

[KhirsahRoshah]

I think the highlighted strategy is a good way to tell when someone is new, as in post-4.0 new. I posted a story a few pages back about someone who had a "pattern" worked out on which ones to press and when, as if the boss fight was elaborately timed in a way that if you DIDN'T use the pattern you would die no matter what. But at least in my case that was a group of four DPS and three of them were new and panicky and I simply couldn't carry three of them with just my DPS (which was happening up to the last boss fight anyway, but it just hit a wall where that wouldn't work anymore, no matter the kolto strategy employed).

For a "healer" to use it as their "strategy" is cringe-worthy. When I play my healers the only time I use the kolto stations is if all three newbs do something like stand in the same circle, take the damage, then scatter just as I'm laying down an AOE heal (happens more than I care to say )

 

I've certainly seen what you're talking about (both the obsessive kolto runners and the groups that are allergic to healer puddles after standing in stupid), but this wasn't the case, being new can't even be their excuse. This was someone who had come back from a "three-month break" who acted like specializations can be done away with and a healer is someone who runs koltos and does nothing more for the health of the party.