Shadix Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Ever wonder why an above average skilled player like yourself does so little damage compared to others? Is your WZ healer 99% healing just themselves? Are you really receiving the healing you deserve for throwing your guard on healers? A "healing received" column detailing just how much healing each character gets could help hold healers accountable for their actions on the battlefield. Example: If you're a ball carrier in Huttball and you receive less than the guy fighting off to the side. Wouldn't that be nice to know? Or how about that guy (or girl!) who is just murdering you at every interaction and they think they are top **** because they roll with a pocket healer. Would be nice to know these things... What does the PvP community think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOULCASTER Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 I like this idea a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsFantastic Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 I definitely like this idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totaltrash Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Yes, that's a good idea! In pug wzs, often times the healers don't heal the team at all, just themselves or their favorite tank/dps/guildie. Yet they still get a bunch of mvp votes for big scoreboard numbers (not that mvp votes matter, but it still isn't right to get rewarded for a sham). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlanon Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 (edited) Yes, that's a good idea! In pug wzs, often times the healers don't heal the team at all, just themselves or their favorite tank/dps/guildie. Yet they still get a bunch of mvp votes for big scoreboard numbers (not that mvp votes matter, but it still isn't right to get rewarded for a sham). So at the end of the match and you point to the healer and say "AHA! YOU WERE HEALING YOURSELF THE ENTIRE MATCH!" The healer will say "DUH IM A HEALER THEY WERE ATTACKING ME" A healing received column would prove nothing to you And of course the healer is going to prioritize the tank that is guarding them. this is so derp i don't know what else to say except derp Edited March 11, 2013 by Arlanon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksidechemist Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 I like it. It will give bads another number to whine about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cilas Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 So at the end of the match and you point to the healer and say "AHA! YOU WERE HEALING YOURSELF THE ENTIRE MATCH!" The healer will say "DUH IM A HEALER THEY WERE ATTACKING ME" A healing received column would prove nothing to you And of course the healer is going to prioritize the tank that is guarding them. this is so derp i don't know what else to say except derp but you can clearly look at the damage taken vs the healing received to see if the healer was justified in his heals. I think the OP's original comment was directed at tanks too.. if a tank guards the healer, is the healer actually healing the tank? I think this would be a nice feature to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islander Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 (edited) For no other reason, I'd like to see this for the sorcerer 'healers' who spent half the WZ consumption healing themselves or padding their stats after the match outcome is effectively determined. My second char is a sorc healer and that annoys the living crap out of me. Edited March 11, 2013 by islander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morde_ Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Another one, please: Add a "Number of CCs done" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totaltrash Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 So at the end of the match and you point to the healer and say "AHA! YOU WERE HEALING YOURSELF THE ENTIRE MATCH!" The healer will say "DUH IM A HEALER THEY WERE ATTACKING ME" A healing received column would prove nothing to you And of course the healer is going to prioritize the tank that is guarding them. this is so derp i don't know what else to say except derp As a healer, you heal who needs healing the most to further the objective - and that's not always your tank or guild buddy. If you don't understand that, don't play a healer. I've seen plenty of that in huttball: "Eff the ball carrier, I gotta heal my smasher who's mindlessly brawling in the middle!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter_Mathis Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Ever wonder why an above average skilled player like yourself does so little damage compared to others? I lol'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubbleDncr Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 I like this idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aramyth Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 (edited) While we're at it, change kills to Kills/Assists. Make killing blows = kills. Make healing done to a player who killed someone = an assist. Make damaging someone who you didn't get the KB on = an assist. "Eff the ball carrier, I gotta heal my smasher who's mindlessly brawling in the middle!" Keyword here: in the middle. lol How is that not important? Edited March 11, 2013 by Aramyth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tragamite Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Absolutely! 1-healers get most of the credit for a win. "Oh man look at the heals that's why they/we won." 2-this will show where EVERYONE is in a match. If you died 12 times taking 68k damage and received 2400 healing either you're facetanking where you shouldn't be or you're not helping the healer so they aren't helping you. However, with this you'll need protection received also to demonstrate why they can heal so much. Afterall let's give credit where credit is due. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JouerTue Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 when you get heals you see the name of the healer..i'm sure that if you remember the big numbers of the smashes you get, you'll remember also heals that kept you alive in crucial situations.. i roll only healers and tanks so i'm not here to troll...i like stats so this would be certainly interesting but i'd add a section with more detailed stats..not just a column..you cannot base your mvp vote (huhu a commendation more!)totally on the final board.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanchito Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 It's already there, roughly. Take your damage taken substract your healing done and your HP times your number of deaths. It's off by your out of combat heals, but most classes don't use it that often Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
criminalheretic Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Another one, please: Add a "Number of CCs done" Lol, I've actually tried to count this myself. I literally lose count just about every match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouchy_one Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 (edited) concerning what I think about your idea, there are a lot of problems right now with balance in pvp. I'd rather not waste developer resources on a "healing received" column if it meant that real problems weren't getting fixed. Edited March 11, 2013 by Grouchy_one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blasphemerr Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Healer accountability. Lol. "I'm mad I don't get heals, grr! So let us see who you're really healing buddy! Omg you healed yourself for 80% of your total amount! noob statpadding cheater" -silly pugs. Silly humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seireeni Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 I like this idea because it would show which one of the healers were actually healing and which ones were farming in some corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invictusthetaru Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Yeah if you keep dying over and over again whilst guarding a healer without any green numbers popping up on your toon, you aren't being healed. Phew, glad we took care of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlanon Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Yeah if you keep dying over and over again whilst guarding a healer without any green numbers popping up on your toon, you aren't being healed. Phew, glad we took care of that. you missed the part where this is america we have to have technology do everything for us the cashier told me to wait while she called for help because the register was down and she couldn't figure out how to manually calculate that i should get 57 cents back in change. i told her it was 57 cents but she didnt believe me i waited there for 5 minutes for that 57 cents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickochey Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 - If you are a tank who loves to LoS their healer and stay as far away from their healer - then expect to die - If you are a tank who goes to far our and over extends - expect to die - If you are a tank in s*** gear and you are vsing a good team - expect to die It really is a two way street, healers need to help their team but tanks need to help their healers. If i had a dollar for every tank that slaps a guard on a healer then runs off and says "why aren't you healing me?" I would be pretty darn rich. Healers are there to help a team not cater to each individual's needs. But to all the healers that don't help their tanks/team - STOP BEING A SELFISH NOOBS!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calitri Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 You forgot the one where if you see player who has a history of being a bad. Your going to die, not because I couldn't heal you. But because your not worth putting my cigarette down for to click your name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkPharohEclip Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 when you get heals you see the name of the healer..i'm sure that if you remember the big numbers of the smashes you get, you'll remember also heals that kept you alive in crucial situations.. i roll only healers and tanks so i'm not here to troll...i like stats so this would be certainly interesting but i'd add a section with more detailed stats..not just a column..you cannot base your mvp vote (huhu a commendation more!)totally on the final board.. Exactly, I can tell when the healer is healing me and who it is healing me. The one that helps me the most usually is the one who gets my vote anyhow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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