Dedrayge Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Now we're getting some where! /flirt You guys speak as if I'm new to this server or these people or something ;p I play a lot, I just don't post often. Nah, just being nice and helpful. It's a miracle, I know. By the way, ego issues also happen a lot in the real world. They're just more obvious on the internet and in video games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyarraKyndheart Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 /flirt /wink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanReagan Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share Posted May 6, 2013 Never seen or heard of you. you'd probably have heard of aven if you did ranked pvp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyarraKyndheart Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 you'd probably have heard of aven if you did ranked pvp. I know who Aven is and I don't do ranked... well I do... but I don't.... but I want to... or something like that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dedrayge Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 /wink /blush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesadplanet Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Never seen or heard of you. yeah i have no clue who he is either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanry Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 yeah i have no clue who he is either. Avenn did tell me that Avenn was calling Elane a she in ranked... Thanks Somnax, Capium, and Tae for correcting Avenn... All three of you have no excuse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dedrayge Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Avenn did tell me that Avenn was calling Elane a she in ranked... Thanks Somnax, Capium, and Tae for correcting Avenn... All three of you have no excuse! Wait, there are two Avenns now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evuo Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 you'd probably have heard of aven if you did ranked pvp. Sorry never heard of him. I did find a green guy named Aven on Tython though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParagonAX Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 (edited) Aven (Avenn) is T-elo's imp (pub) alt. Edited May 6, 2013 by ParagonAX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dedrayge Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 It's nice when people display their legacy name. Tython...Oh dear gods I ran through that place way too many times and remember the terrible shadow effects present in beta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanReagan Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share Posted May 6, 2013 Sorry never heard of him. I did find a green guy named Aven on Tython though. obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscipleXIII Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 /blush /puke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dedrayge Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 /puke You sir, are just jealous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscipleXIII Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 You sir, are just jealous. Oh yes, you caught me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dedrayge Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Oh yes, you caught me Now the real question is; Who are you really jealous of? ;o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidichIorian Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 (edited) Came back two days ago and I've already come across a couple of surprising player-guild tag combos. What happened O_O And not that i can remember an awesome sorc by the name of Maod but he has a point in that people don't see every game everyone els is playing. I came across an ID member in perhaps one out of 100 games back when i played on a daily basis, give or take the mornings somnax would be on a pub. Edited May 8, 2013 by MidichIorian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscipleXIII Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Now the real question is; Who are you really jealous of? ;o Oh, well that should be obvious! I'm jealous of Bill Gates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobrogaming Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Weenie Hut Jr is coming on the scene and will soon be the number one guild on Shadowlands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldFire Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Weenie Hut Jr is coming on the scene and will soon be the number one guild on Shadowlands. Unsub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobrogaming Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Unsub Give me my $15 back first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldFire Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Give me my $15 back first. Work for it. My parents pay my sub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Slashius Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 This is all very subjective. Just saying. I've seen days where every single guild, even the ones considered "the best," have very bad days, just as I've seen those same guilds have very good days. The problem I tend to run into is when the elitists point blame at everyone else (I'm guilty of it too) when it's a team effort. If the team is losing then it's the fault of the team. I understand that individuals do **** up, like people capping a node/pylon and then leaving it unguarded (those people should never PvP again) or not calling incoming when they ARE guarding a node/pylon. However, barring those individuals, PvP IS a team effort, and, on average, even a 4-man premade (in regs) cannot win it for the team. They can give them a better shot (depending on the 4-man), but they can't control what the PUG members on their team do. But, as I said above, even the "best" PvP'ers have bad days, and bad PvP'ers even have good days. The only real difference between the "best" PvP guilds is the level of organization and cooperation the members have with each other. Regarding Ranked Warzones, if you get two really good teams together then you usually have what is just a huge CC-fest, because both teams know what they're doing, which makes it hard for any real damage to be done. So, a lot of times it comes down to who gets the proper CC's off at the right time so that a cap can be made. At that point, all the defending team has to do is stay alive and keep cappers off the nodes (for node-style Warzones). Huttball, on the other hand, is all about ball control, regardless of the match type (ranked or regular). So, if you get two astounding teams together, it's a matter of who the hell gets the ball first. Of course, you do have obstacles on the course that can aid, or hamper, both teams, so that's a matter of who's in the right place at the right time and who is able to ruin someone's day without even doing a whole lot (it's not cheap, or cheating, it's strategy). I am not denying that ID, Physics, and all the other good PvP guilds are in fact really good. I'm simply saying that to rate them in a "top 5" is very subjective, because PvP DOES have a lot to do with timing and proper organization, and, even in PUG groups, this can be achieved if you have people that know what the hell they're doing. If you have at least 4 people on the team that are clueless and do not cooperate (regular WZ PUGs) then THAT can be an auto-loss, but that doesn't mean the 4-man (if there is one) should, or can, cast blame AT those PUGS, UNLESS that 4-man wins the warzone for the team (excluding Huttball, because that can be won with 2 people in many cases in regular warzones due to the WZ's very nature). A lot of people are going to disagree with a lot of this, and that's fine, because, as I said from the very start, this is all very subjective. Cheers, Vitiate of Nex Angeles - Shadowlands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dedrayge Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 This is all very subjective. Just saying. I've seen days where every single guild, even the ones considered "the best," have very bad days, just as I've seen those same guilds have very good days. The problem I tend to run into is when the elitists point blame at everyone else (I'm guilty of it too) when it's a team effort. If the team is losing then it's the fault of the team. I understand that individuals do **** up, like people capping a node/pylon and then leaving it unguarded (those people should never PvP again) or not calling incoming when they ARE guarding a node/pylon. However, barring those individuals, PvP IS a team effort, and, on average, even a 4-man premade (in regs) cannot win it for the team. They can give them a better shot (depending on the 4-man), but they can't control what the PUG members on their team do. But, as I said above, even the "best" PvP'ers have bad days, and bad PvP'ers even have good days. The only real difference between the "best" PvP guilds is the level of organization and cooperation the members have with each other. Regarding Ranked Warzones, if you get two really good teams together then you usually have what is just a huge CC-fest, because both teams know what they're doing, which makes it hard for any real damage to be done. So, a lot of times it comes down to who gets the proper CC's off at the right time so that a cap can be made. At that point, all the defending team has to do is stay alive and keep cappers off the nodes (for node-style Warzones). Huttball, on the other hand, is all about ball control, regardless of the match type (ranked or regular). So, if you get two astounding teams together, it's a matter of who the hell gets the ball first. Of course, you do have obstacles on the course that can aid, or hamper, both teams, so that's a matter of who's in the right place at the right time and who is able to ruin someone's day without even doing a whole lot (it's not cheap, or cheating, it's strategy). I am not denying that ID, Physics, and all the other good PvP guilds are in fact really good. I'm simply saying that to rate them in a "top 5" is very subjective, because PvP DOES have a lot to do with timing and proper organization, and, even in PUG groups, this can be achieved if you have people that know what the hell they're doing. If you have at least 4 people on the team that are clueless and do not cooperate (regular WZ PUGs) then THAT can be an auto-loss, but that doesn't mean the 4-man (if there is one) should, or can, cast blame AT those PUGS, UNLESS that 4-man wins the warzone for the team (excluding Huttball, because that can be won with 2 people in many cases in regular warzones due to the WZ's very nature). A lot of people are going to disagree with a lot of this, and that's fine, because, as I said from the very start, this is all very subjective. Cheers, Vitiate of Nex Angeles - Shadowlands Bet a lot of people get a head ache and start raging after reading what you said. Just because you know, they fail at logic. By the way, well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Openwide Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 This is all very subjective. Just saying. I've seen days where every single guild, even the ones considered "the best," have very bad days, just as I've seen those same guilds have very good days. The problem I tend to run into is when the elitists point blame at everyone else (I'm guilty of it too) when it's a team effort. If the team is losing then it's the fault of the team. I understand that individuals do **** up, like people capping a node/pylon and then leaving it unguarded (those people should never PvP again) or not calling incoming when they ARE guarding a node/pylon. However, barring those individuals, PvP IS a team effort, and, on average, even a 4-man premade (in regs) cannot win it for the team. They can give them a better shot (depending on the 4-man), but they can't control what the PUG members on their team do. But, as I said above, even the "best" PvP'ers have bad days, and bad PvP'ers even have good days. The only real difference between the "best" PvP guilds is the level of organization and cooperation the members have with each other. Regarding Ranked Warzones, if you get two really good teams together then you usually have what is just a huge CC-fest, because both teams know what they're doing, which makes it hard for any real damage to be done. So, a lot of times it comes down to who gets the proper CC's off at the right time so that a cap can be made. At that point, all the defending team has to do is stay alive and keep cappers off the nodes (for node-style Warzones). Huttball, on the other hand, is all about ball control, regardless of the match type (ranked or regular). So, if you get two astounding teams together, it's a matter of who the hell gets the ball first. Of course, you do have obstacles on the course that can aid, or hamper, both teams, so that's a matter of who's in the right place at the right time and who is able to ruin someone's day without even doing a whole lot (it's not cheap, or cheating, it's strategy). I am not denying that ID, Physics, and all the other good PvP guilds are in fact really good. I'm simply saying that to rate them in a "top 5" is very subjective, because PvP DOES have a lot to do with timing and proper organization, and, even in PUG groups, this can be achieved if you have people that know what the hell they're doing. If you have at least 4 people on the team that are clueless and do not cooperate (regular WZ PUGs) then THAT can be an auto-loss, but that doesn't mean the 4-man (if there is one) should, or can, cast blame AT those PUGS, UNLESS that 4-man wins the warzone for the team (excluding Huttball, because that can be won with 2 people in many cases in regular warzones due to the WZ's very nature). A lot of people are going to disagree with a lot of this, and that's fine, because, as I said from the very start, this is all very subjective. Cheers, Vitiate of Nex Angeles - Shadowlands just to add one more thing and its kinda important a lot of the time it comes down to who can focus targets better and change targets in heart beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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