NogueiraA Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 As title says, kaon and kaon and KAON again. I just exit area and back to queue. I can not play Kaon anymore. I have 6 char 50's and I do the group finder daily with all my chars, every day, at least 3x kaon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taiketo Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Heh. I have the opposite problem. I haven't finished my Rakghoul weekly in over 2 months because the groupfinder never gives me Kaon. Or, if it does, the tank/healer immediately leaves and after 10 minutes of waiting I give up. I always seem to get cancer-ridden black talon and it's 30 hours of cutscenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icebergy Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 I have 6 char 50's and I do the group finder daily with all my chars, every day Here is the problem. It doesn't matter what instance it is, when you are running this much, they will all get boring. I don't even know how you can do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twolightsabers Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 (edited) The real issue I have with Kaon (and all of my guildees and in-game friends as well) is that it is still a freaking bug-fest. After months of being out... Invisible walls, mobs that chain knock you back into said wall and get you insta-gibbed, walls that cut off the tank and keep him/her from getting to the mobs prison-ra pe the healer, mobs that appear 20yds away from where they are and cause accidental pulls, bosses that glitch (behemoth I'm talking to you), and my personal favorite: the packs of Tionese mercenaries not aggroed on you who occassionally clip a party member with stray fire and put the whole group into combat. Personally, I would be more than happy with the next patch introducing zero new content and simply being a "hey guys, here's a ton of bug fixes looooooooong overdue. O and here's an updated codex too. Hey it's almost Christmas, might as well put it on the list... Edited December 23, 2012 by Twolightsabers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMSL Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 In my opinion kaon should be a tier 2 flashpoint that would save me the hassle of doing that thing randomly and not getting the credit for the weekly hm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephesia Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 In my opinion kaon should be a tier 2 flashpoint that would save me the hassle of doing that thing randomly and not getting the credit for the weekly hm. It does not have the challenge to be called a Tier 2 flashpoint though, while I seriously doubt this idea of yours will ever be implemented if it did they'd need to up the challenge for it to be comparabe to Lost Island and drop Columi + Rakata off last boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sumuji Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Having two tanks and almost a 3rd at 50, plus a healer, I totally agree. There is no t1 HM more annoying than KUS. It's long, it's packed full of annoying mobs, and it's resposible for more group breakups than all of the others combined. Granted most times I run it it's without a hitch but I certainly let out a sigh if Kaon comes up with the group finder. It should be made maybe a tad harder and put next to Lost Island as tier 2 if they might be revamping with the upcoming expansion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebevo Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 I get D7, over and over and over....Good news i can now do it in my sleep. I really don't mind Koan provided the tank gets in and stays in the turret I am fine with Kaon. My only other complaint about it is when the mercenaries hug my healer and tank and dps only cry out for heals instead of actually killing the thing that has me stun locked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toyfanatic Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 I can agree with the op on this,Lets look at Kaon for a moment, this and LI are considered expansions. Why , because they came out as new content after launch. Anyone remeber the raqghoul event? These were the first FP designed as solely lvl50 content. All other SM FP have a below lvl 50 content. There are several trash mobs that require skill and comunication to survive. The dark room must be pulled and dps'd just right. The area right befor the final boss also requires some serious cc's to make it better than wipe fest. Also fresh 50's might not have the best survivability depending if they are in just tionese.As for the boss fights, the behemoth takes a minor amount of co-ordination to kill- especially if the party is all melee. The final boss fight is easy compaired to the adds are harder to kill than the actual boss. Since his two adds are untankable the fight can be trouble for fresher tanks who don't know the fight. Even though the cannon/turret encounter counts as a boss fight it just requires skillmore than gear to do it.I believe when the devs took the nerf bat to all the trash mobs in FP's this one didn't get hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitru Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 These were the first FP designed as solely lvl50 content. All other SM FP have a below lvl 50 content. So, are you completely ignoring Directive 7, Battle for Ilum, and False Emperor, all of which were developed at release and designed as level 50 intro FPs to gear people up for the HMs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMSL Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 It does not have the challenge to be called a Tier 2 flashpoint though, while I seriously doubt this idea of yours will ever be implemented if it did they'd need to up the challenge for it to be comparabe to Lost Island and drop Columi + Rakata off last boss. It's just an observation i made that would solve some problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Have you tried abandoning the flash point mission before queuing up again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnalisNailo Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 So, are you completely ignoring Directive 7, Battle for Ilum, and False Emperor, all of which were developed at release and designed as level 50 intro FPs to gear people up for the HMs? D7 is a lvl47 flashpoint. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MishraArtificer Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Personally, the only reason I hate Kaon Under Siege so much is because it doesn't count towards the HM Flashpoint Weekly quest. If it did, I would have no problems with it whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowpokeking Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 (edited) It drops a big speeder while I never see it drops. Edited December 25, 2012 by Slowpokeking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshlaBoga Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 It drops a big speeder while I never see it drops. You're better off doing SM EV for the Tirsa Elite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMSL Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 It drops a big speeder while I never see it drops. Saw it drop once and i won it, not that great looking to be honest. Now if landspeeders actually could hold your companion or a player you grouped with it would actually be cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NogueiraA Posted December 25, 2012 Author Share Posted December 25, 2012 Here is the problem. It doesn't matter what instance it is, when you are running this much, they will all get boring. I don't even know how you can do that. The point is, I do 6x per day group finder, I have 2 tanks, 2 healers and 2 dps. At least 4x kaon. I have patience and I'm on vacations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DataBeaver Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 As title says, kaon and kaon and KAON again. I just exit area and back to queue. I can not play Kaon anymore. Why don't you just uncheck it from group finder? Or are you saying it's broken and gives you Kaon regardless of your selections? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephesia Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Why don't you just uncheck it from group finder? Or are you saying it's broken and gives you Kaon regardless of your selections? if he unchecks it he won't be entitled for the BH comms in the end, so most would rather not want to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DataBeaver Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 if he unchecks it he won't be entitled for the BH comms in the end, so most would rather not want to do that. Ah, okay. Makes sense. I haven't ever actually unchecked any flashpoints so I was unaware of this. I've done very little flashpoints (mostly due to lack of time) and haven't gotten bored with any one of them yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griad Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Kaon only instance you can blow through with 3 dps and 1 healer, i love that u dont need a tank ' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wetslampigduex Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Kaon only instance you can blow through with 3 dps and 1 healer, i love that u dont need a tank ' do any of them really need a core of tank 2 dps and a healer... no.. i 2 manned kaon as a fresh 50 when it first came out as dps and the other person was a tank. To who ever was saying it's glitched filled... i honestly dont think i have ever seen anything in there glitch which is probably the only FP i can say that for. I've run it prob as much as OP stated too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Erman Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 My record is 4x Esseles in a row. I don't think anyone can beat it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargonglok Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 (edited) but HM Kaon is the easiest fp besides BT. it is also much faster edit: and as a sniper you can solo guard the bomb! Edited December 26, 2012 by wargonglok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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