Skerry Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Okay. Now explain why your character is so stupid you have to be level 25 and pay for training for a speeder, but you can fly a million credit starship with no training at all at level 13+. Have you seen how you fly that million credit starship. Straight. You can't turn or go backwards so I would hardly call that training. I would call that about right for someone with no training Those barrel rolls? those aren't maneuvers or evasive actions, those are CRAP spilled my tatooine juice all over the droid again!! (I actually have no trouble with the space travel; but it does fit the question) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maintain Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 so i got this way super cool FREE starship that i apparently know how to pilot (for FREE) and go into space combat with, but i have to pay 40k credits just to learn to ride a personal speeder? i understand game money sinks and can accept the cost of personal speeders themselves, but this is just silly. judging by posts made on the cost of training abilities, respecs and gear repair at high levels as well, there should be a complete reevaluation of money sinks and mandatory expenditures so they fall on the more reasonable side. You apparently don't follow your classes story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austringer Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 And if you really, really, really want to get technical, that ship isn't yours, it belongs to the Empire. They will probably want it back some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanJJ Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 the 40k at 25 was very easy to do. the 210k at 40 (for only 10% speed increase no less)... well, let's just say i'm still saving :\ it's a tad steep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuno Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 (edited) How much is speeder training level 2 at 40? Just so i know how much to save. Ta! EDit ah nvm, the person above me posted a split second before me hehe. Edited January 4, 2012 by Shuno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgoldsack Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 (edited) Its not that bad. @25 - 40k + 8k vehicle@40 - 210k + 25k vehicle@50 - 330k + 55k vehicle I had zero trouble buying all 3 at the appropriate time, as well as all my skills at every level. Money is so easy to make in this game it isn't even funny. Edited January 4, 2012 by jgoldsack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anagnostis Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Yeah man, the Space DMV upped their license fees. You may be a full pro at the driving test but you gotta pay the $40,000 to have your head on a piece of plastic.Wouldn't want them Space Cops chase you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeedaiFiresaber Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 the 40k at 25 isn't that bad. depending on if you've been doing alot of crew missions, this is easily doable by 25-27ish. What i don't understand is the additional costs at lvl 40 and 50.....for only 10% more. There's absolutely no point in my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krabcakes Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 (edited) Mounts in this game are dirt cheap. There's absolutely no point in my eyes. The dismount protection alone would make them worth it if they were the same speed. Edited January 4, 2012 by Krabcakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robpsychobob Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 (edited) so i got this way super cool FREE starship that i apparently know how to pilot (for FREE) and go into space combat with, but i have to pay 40k credits just to learn to ride a personal speeder? i understand game money sinks and can accept the cost of personal speeders themselves, but this is just silly. judging by posts made on the cost of training abilities, respecs and gear repair at high levels as well, there should be a complete reevaluation of money sinks and mandatory expenditures so they fall on the more reasonable side. I'm level 46 with 700,000c +, 400 Synthweaving(Completely Trained), 350 Archaeology and 400 slicing. I'm not behind on any skill training and I am a Jedi Consular Sage-Seer(Healer). I have speeder training 2 and 2 25,000c speeders. I also bought my level 50 55,000c speeder at level 45. What're you doing wrong? Edited January 4, 2012 by Robpsychobob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psysention Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 so i got this way super cool FREE starship that i apparently know how to pilot (for FREE) and go into space combat with, but i have to pay 40k credits just to learn to ride a personal speeder? i understand game money sinks and can accept the cost of personal speeders themselves, but this is just silly. judging by posts made on the cost of training abilities, respecs and gear repair at high levels as well, there should be a complete reevaluation of money sinks and mandatory expenditures so they fall on the more reasonable side. man reach lvl 50 than talk my firend has 4.5 million credits hes slicer i have 1.2 million credits and i dun have slicer not to mention you don't even use credits in the game that much... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varium Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Would you like to get the speeder free but ship you have to buy and the skill which would cost about more than one million with the amount of money you get now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidicusrex Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 From a role-playing point of view, it is pretty obvious that we know how to control speeders and taxi's. (Whenever you rent one, you are piloting it, you are not being chauffeured, you are not sitting in the back, you are the pilot! And on Nar Shadaa you come across an abandoned speeder and are able to pilot it. So why do we need to train? It's not the cost that I object to, it's that my character supposedly does not know how to pilot a speeder so he needs to be trained that bothers me. My suggestion is to abandon training all together and just make the speeders themselves cost more. So the first speeder you can purchase would be 48-50k, and you have to be at least level 25 to buy it. I know that this may seem like I'm splitting hairs, but as a role-player I would like to think that my character who can fly a ship across the galaxy and into combat would be able to fly a speeder traveling at around 30-40 mph without extra training! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelinCarnate Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 From a role-playing point of view, it is pretty obvious that we know how to control speeders and taxi's. (Whenever you rent one, you are piloting it, you are not being chauffeured, you are not sitting in the back, you are the pilot! And on Nar Shadaa you come across an abandoned speeder and are able to pilot it. So why do we need to train? It's not the cost that I object to, it's that my character supposedly does not know how to pilot a speeder so he needs to be trained that bothers me. My suggestion is to abandon training all together and just make the speeders themselves cost more. So the first speeder you can purchase would be 48-50k, and you have to be at least level 25 to buy it. I know that this may seem like I'm splitting hairs, but as a role-player I would like to think that my character who can fly a ship across the galaxy and into combat would be able to fly a speeder traveling at around 30-40 mph without extra training! The taxi is like one of those kiddie rides at the fair that have cars on a track and the steering wheels move but you really do not have any controll over where they go. Their destination is programmed as well as the route you need to take. As far as your starship, the robot it comes with does the piloting and you take care of the shooting, that is why it is on rails and you cannot go where you want in both There is your RP fix. As far as the abandoned speeder, you can only travel at sprint speeds because you lack the proper training to go any faster than you could run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krashh Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 On my Jedi Shadow, after I got my first speeder training and my speeder, I had 20-30k left over (even when I spent 5k for extra bag slots). It's similar with 2 other characters I have at 23 and 24. They'll have 20k+ left over after speeder training. When I hit 50, I had around 600k in credits, even though I spent credits for all my bag slots and an extra storage bay on the ship. I also levelled 3 crew skills to 400. Credits in this game are easy to come by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelinCarnate Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 I am actually in favor of keeping the costs high and eliminating the level requirement so that if you had the funds, you could buy sprint and the speeder 1 2 and 3 at level 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidicusrex Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 The taxi is like one of those kiddie rides at the fair that have cars on a track and the steering wheels move but you really do not have any controll over where they go. Their destination is programmed as well as the route you need to take. As far as your starship, the robot it comes with does the piloting and you take care of the shooting, that is why it is on rails and you cannot go where you want in both There is your RP fix. As far as the abandoned speeder, you can only travel at sprint speeds because you lack the proper training to go any faster than you could run. I'm a Sith Inquisitor assassin! And I'm riding a kiddie ride with a steering wheel that does nothing! Really? And I am OK with this! Of course I wouldn't be OK with this! As a Sith I would be insulted and heads would roll. As far as the star ship, my character is sitting in the captains seat. My droid is out in the mezzanine wondering what else he can do for me, he is not piloting the ship (and if you listen to commands issued during the ship combat missions, your character is the one calling the shots). So what you suggest is not an RP fix. Besides, wouldn't it just be simpler to have one cost (48-50k for a speeder) and one place to visit, than to have two separate costs and two separate areas to go to. And wouldn't a Sith Inquisitor trainer be a bit annoyed that he has to train you to ride a bike! Like I said, I am not against the costs involved. It just ruins the immersion for me, just a bit. Just make the speeders cost more, end of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatslinger Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Okay. Now explain why your character is so stupid you have to be level 25 and pay for training for a speeder, but you can fly a million credit starship with no training at all at level 13+. I know C2-N2's voice is like rubbing cheese graters against your ears, but sometimes (or rarely...) it pays to listen to his inane prattle. When he's giving you the tour of your starship, he actually tells you that all you have to do to use your starship is choose the planet you want to travel to and your computer will do the rest. On topic, credits are not hard to come by. Questing, especially on Tatooine gives you a lot of credits. I've been able to half my credits with my alt at level 35 and haven't suffered at all for it. I can still buy every skill, I can still craft, and I'm still on track for my speeder upgrade at 40. I don't even have slicing, I use armstech, all you have to do is work the GTN and do some quests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaVolpex Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 cash sinks, every game has them, otherwise there would be little point in having a currency if there isnt going to be anything to spend it on, speeders are part of that, or would you rather them charge it for the abilty to leave planets instead and gave you your speeder? also, 40k is peanuts you dont even have to think , just grab all grey stuff you see and vendor, by the time you hit 25 , i promise you wont be more than 2k short if not over what you need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vallowen Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 its nothing. you should have oodles more credits than you need, at all levels money is very easy to make in this game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZirusZero Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Don't complain, the mounts are dirt cheap. SWTOR: 40k per level Maplestory:5 Mil level 1 50 mil level 2 100 mil level 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voqar Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 There's little rhyme or reason to the costs of things in the game - other than they can be costly or seem so at times, but ultimately, it's WAY too easy to rack up credits in TOR and anyone can have all the credits they want with minimal effort and without having to do the GTN thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kourage Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 (edited) I stole my starship... Why didn't you steal a speeder? And how come you didn't have to pay someone to teach you to fly the ship? And how come fuel costs are so cheap and nobody charges you to use their hangar? Edited January 31, 2012 by Kourage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SentinelSoldier Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Yes things get expensive, but part of the game is managing your in game finances. I stopped sending my crew on missions at level 23 because I knew I would need 40k+ for training. I like the fact that I have to be wise with my credits. I thought this was Star Wars, not Accounting Wars... if I want to play a finance game then I'll do that with the stock market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SentinelSoldier Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Don't complain, the mounts are dirt cheap. SWTOR: 40k per level Maplestory:5 Mil level 1 50 mil level 2 100 mil level 3 I think everyone has a right to express their opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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