Wookieenator Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Nope. And for the record I am not the only one experiencing the same issues. There is a problem and it needs urgent looking at. Enough said. Enough said? Challenge someone to a duel, or show a clip of it. You made no argument at all against plain factual information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jibboo Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 FS has been bugged since 1.4. I have been knocked back countless times by Overload and Jet Boost (and their Pub mirrors) while FS was up. The only thing is that it usually occurs a second after I pop FS, so it could be lag related. This never happened prior to 1.4 though so something is amiss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cycao Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 FS has been bugged since 1.4. I have been knocked back countless times by Overload and Jet Boost (and their Pub mirrors) while FS was up. The only thing is that it usually occurs a second after I pop FS, so it could be lag related. This never happened prior to 1.4 though so something is amiss. Yeah totally not working correctly. I experience issues with it just about every day. Not that big of a deal but when I am playing madness that 3 seconds is pretty big since I am incredibly squishy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharterMonkKent Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 There is a lag issue with it. Just like there is a lag issue with every other ability in game. The same 1.4 bug that makes smash "miss" is the same one that shifts a second of resilience/shroud back/forward. It's effecting everyone but some abilities make it more noticeable. And as for the people who don't understand the ability, there are a lot of attacks/abilities that are not force/tech. Many a sin/shadow in this game that will eat a full ravage with shroud up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ycoga Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 (edited) Yeah totally not working correctly. I experience issues with it just about every day. Not that big of a deal but when I am playing madness that 3 seconds is pretty big since I am incredibly squishy. Aww! <3 Edited January 2, 2013 by Ycoga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leafy_Bug Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Ah, my dear resilience, where art thou? Oh, you are in my quickbar when I press G. Why are you cheating on me? I pushed the key, i am glowing gold, 5s even, and I get rooted after knockback from overload. I guess I did not treat yo right resilience, let me try again, I use resilience and bang operative flashbang to the face. How can I make things right my dear resilience? Please come back ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masarko Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Serves you well! jk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anwg Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 First of all, it only protects against tech and force attacks, so charge/leap will root you since they are melee attacks, leg shot will root you since it's a ranged attack. As for getting pulled, VG/PT grapple has a travel time, he could have grappled you before you activated shroud, but the animation only started afterwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyDragonflame Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 (edited) Resilience must spent -50% health, like mara's Undying rage. Than it will be fixed. Edited January 2, 2013 by TonyDragonflame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venjirai Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Yeah, it's broken. I use it the moment I get leaped by a Smasher and one second later I get hit by his smash... Also often does not work against stuns: http://www.picfront.org/d/8U4H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDaioz Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 (edited) Theres this ability called force sweep that one or two people use these days that hits after im all white and that. Im putting it down to server lag because its always right at the start when I put it up i.e. pop FS (because you just got leaped on and guess whats coming straight after it ^^) 1 second later smash animation with a nice 5k+ hit on me. Aint really ever noticed CC issues with it. EDIT: Venjirai - lol posted after yours without reading it suppose it proves my point. Lmao at the screenshot Edited January 2, 2013 by SuperDaioz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StJon Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 im shocked that noone even mentioned the fact that accuracy over 100% lowers your chance to dodge / parry / RESIST an attack every class has 100% base accuarcy for force and tech attacks and most run around with 108-110% in pvp wich for all intents and porpuses means that theres a 10% chance they will ignore force shroud Check your characther sheet your force accuracy says and i quote "Chance that your offensive Force powers will affect the target. Accuracy over 100% reduces the target's RESISTANCE" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venjirai Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Force Shrould gives +200% resistance.... and this ability worked 100% of the time before the latest patches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharterMonkKent Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 im shocked that noone even mentioned the fact that accuracy over 100% lowers your chance to dodge / parry / RESIST an attack every class has 100% base accuarcy for force and tech attacks and most run around with 108-110% in pvp wich for all intents and porpuses means that theres a 10% chance they will ignore force shroud Check your characther sheet your force accuracy says and i quote "Chance that your offensive Force powers will affect the target. Accuracy over 100% reduces the target's RESISTANCE" Force shroud/resilience "increases by 100%" your chance to resist force/tech. Which puts shadows/sins resistance 202%+ depending on itemizing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMaulUK Posted January 2, 2013 Author Share Posted January 2, 2013 Force Shrould gives +200% resistance.... and this ability worked 100% of the time before the latest patches. This The second I popped it yesterday, I was STUNNED by a Shadow. It doesn't work, its not lag its yet another list of broken features - Even overload isn't working all the time now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cycao Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Resilience must spent -50% health, like mara's Undying rage. Than it will be fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StJon Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 First of all force shroud gives 100% not 200% dont beleive me? check the in game description http://i49.tinypic.com/2s8llc4.jpg dont beleive my pic? check a website roll a sin wichever method makes you all giddy Your saying that sins get 200% chance to resist and attack right? (100% base + 100% from force shroud) i have 110% accuracy wich means your chacne to resist is now 90% Wich...means....that in 10% of the cases im going to ignore force shroud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharterMonkKent Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 This The second I popped it yesterday, I was STUNNED by a Shadow. It doesn't work, its not lag its yet another list of broken features - Even overload isn't working all the time now. It is lag. As I mentioned earlier in this thread. There are abilities across all classes that have been effected by 1.4 This thread should be re-titled to "Fix Server Lag" Shroud's effect from time to time is -1 secondish. I've only had the lag effect me on my shadow a few times. Resilience (for me) usually lasts the full 3 seconds, but I've had it last as little as 2 seconds. It's a bigger issue for other classes that use non-target-able offensive attacks (mostly AOE's). Since 1.4 I've had death from above not stop caps because the damage wasn't applying the first second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillaDeuce Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 (edited) The same thing happens with Bounty Hunters (Powertech) ability "Hydraulic Overrides". But then that one does not say stuns. Which is why I don't us it. I still get CC to death with it on. Edited January 2, 2013 by KillaDeuce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharterMonkKent Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 First of all force shroud gives 100% not 200% dont beleive me? check the in game description http://i49.tinypic.com/2s8llc4.jpg dont beleive my pic? check a website roll a sin wichever method makes you all giddy Your saying that sins get 200% chance to resist and attack right? (100% base + 100% from force shroud) i have 110% accuracy wich means your chacne to resist is now 90% Wich...means....that in 10% of the cases im going to ignore force shroud I don't understand your point. I think If you're saying there is a chance for people to attack through shroud using force/tech attacks. I don't think anyone was disputing that. Maybe there are a lot of bad players spamming force/tech attacks on shroud/resilience instead of using melee/ranged that would hit as usual. Why attack someone with a 2-3% chance to hit instead of attacking them with 100%? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venjirai Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 (edited) First of all force shroud gives 100% not 200% dont beleive me? check the in game description http://i49.tinypic.com/2s8llc4.jpg dont beleive my pic? check a website roll a sin wichever method makes you all giddy Your saying that sins get 200% chance to resist and attack right? (100% base + 100% from force shroud) i have 110% accuracy wich means your chacne to resist is now 90% Wich...means....that in 10% of the cases im going to ignore force shroud Check your force resistance tooltip after you popped force shroud. http://www.picfront.org/d/8UpZ Edited January 2, 2013 by Venjirai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMaulUK Posted January 2, 2013 Author Share Posted January 2, 2013 It is lag. As I mentioned earlier in this thread. There are abilities across all classes that have been effected by 1.4 This thread should be re-titled to "Fix Server Lag" Shroud's effect from time to time is -1 secondish. I've only had the lag effect me on my shadow a few times. Resilience (for me) usually lasts the full 3 seconds, but I've had it last as little as 2 seconds. It's a bigger issue for other classes that use non-target-able offensive attacks (mostly AOE's). Since 1.4 I've had death from above not stop caps because the damage wasn't applying the first second. See I thought it was lag but have been doing more research. yes, it probably does play a part, but when you have a 5 second resistance, and you are STUNNED within 2 seconds and your FS is still showing on your cast bar, you should not get stunned by a force move. I did. I've tried popping FS until the very last second I need it, only still to get knocked back, stunned etc etc. Lag proabably does play a part but since 1.4 lots of strange things have been going on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharterMonkKent Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 See I thought it was lag but have been doing more research. yes, it probably does play a part, but when you have a 5 second resistance, and you are STUNNED within 2 seconds and your FS is still showing on your cast bar, you should not get stunned by a force move. I did. I've tried popping FS until the very last second I need it, only still to get knocked back, stunned etc etc. Lag proabably does play a part but since 1.4 lots of strange things have been going on I haven't played around with the 5 second resilience yet so I'll give it a go and see if I notice anything weird. Multiplying the problem is the lag effects on the attacker/s too. I wouldn't be surprised that some lag activation is up 3 seconds (probably worst case scenario). I know that happens to me when the server chops up, I'll have abilities activate on players while I'm in spawn, recently killed. So we could be seeing people hitting stun the same time (or slightly before) a sin hits shroud, but lag doesn't apply the effect until after shroud "kicks in" (even seconds in). So the stun is applying to the pre-shroud toon, even though the toon currently has shroud up. I hope they fix it. It's annoying when this happens at the make or break parts of a WZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthSabreth Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 FS doesnt help against low slash.. never. however FS broken, i was lifted a number times while was under FS... also unbreakable will is broken too, i got 3 bubblestuns in row and i used unbreakable will 3 times in row too (no cd, lol)... what else.. hmm.. sometimes i can use FS a few times within 20 sec range.. this game is completely fcked The moral of the story is... this game has way way way too many overly overly overly excessive CC's. 1.4 was a dark day for SWTOR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StJon Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 I don't understand your point. I think If you're saying there is a chance for people to attack through shroud using force/tech attacks. I don't think anyone was disputing that. Maybe there are a lot of bad players spamming force/tech attacks on shroud/resilience instead of using melee/ranged that would hit as usual. Why attack someone with a 2-3% chance to hit instead of attacking them with 100%? i agree its stupid to do such a thing... the chances are ridiculously low.. yet people do it and for some reason sins complain that force shroud is broken when a hit does get through.. im a sin myself i see it resist i see it get through i dont go cry wolf whenever a hit gets through FS..even if i am standing in fire Check your force resistance tooltip after you popped force shroud. http://www.picfront.org/d/8UpZ touché i never noticed that lol still.. your trying to tell me you never noticed during 3-5 secs of FS first hit getting resisted and 2nd not and third not? never ever? it says 200% but against any guy with decent accuracy some hits will get through..and thats not lag Personally i see alot of it while carrying the ball.. i mean real force or tech attacks i know the difference beetween a leg shot from a sniper and Creeping terror from a SI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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