Glower Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Reduces all damage taken while in cover by [3 / 6]% and reduces the cooldown of Ballistic Shield by [15 / 30] seconds. Cuz i don't see any stats changes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTomorrow Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 I am suspicious too. I think before it used to show in the stats that extra reduction... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altheran Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 I am suspicious too. I think before it used to show in the stats that extra reduction... Maybe that now it is a multiplucative dmg reduction, so it doesn't show on stat sheet... Just like the 20% dmg reduction of Troopers & Bounty Hunters. You should test with a mate in duel or in the Outlaw Den and your mate must use a DoT for this test because DoTs are constant. Unfortunately I can't test it myself, because I didn't took this talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werdan Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Maybe that now it is a multiplucative dmg reduction, so it doesn't show on stat sheet... Just like the 20% dmg reduction of Troopers & Bounty Hunters. You should test with a mate in duel or in the Outlaw Den and your mate must use a DoT for this test because DoTs are constant. Unfortunately I can't test it myself, because I didn't took this talent. Last I checked the BH/Commando shield actually changed the damage reduction listed on your stat sheet. They might have changed that recently (as in the last few weeks) so I'll check it once I get back in game. FYI their shield adds 25% DR which gives them around 55% for 12-15s in very good gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistols Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 so it doesn't show on stat sheet... Just like the 20% dmg reduction of Troopers & Bounty Hunters. The 20% damage reduction does show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glower Posted August 20, 2012 Author Share Posted August 20, 2012 Any news? No one uses Deployed Shields? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altheran Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 (edited) The 20% damage reduction does show. Last time I looked at it it didn't show... but it was weeks from now Edited August 22, 2012 by Altheran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glower Posted September 7, 2012 Author Share Posted September 7, 2012 I'm still confused! hlp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastrights Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 I also want to add as of later evasion is not working either. I have been in cover with the green bubble around my character going full force only to be burnt down by two or three players aggro. Several times I am laying there dead with the green bubble still going. Either the players hitting me are exploiting or my opinion is some how evasion is on a damage base and not a time base like advertised. I say this because if I have one player attacking me it seems to block one or two shots if I have focus fire it does nothing I activate it and watch my health continue to go down when two or more players are attacking. The really need to fix this so you are immune to all the damage except dot's that are already on you for the 3 seconds the ability states. Right now it is just geme breaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeters Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 I also want to add as of later evasion is not working either. I have been in cover with the green bubble around my character going full force only to be burnt down by two or three players aggro. Several times I am laying there dead with the green bubble still going. Either the players hitting me are exploiting or my opinion is some how evasion is on a damage base and not a time base like advertised. I say this because if I have one player attacking me it seems to block one or two shots if I have focus fire it does nothing I activate it and watch my health continue to go down when two or more players are attacking. Evasion only works against ranged and melee attacks. It provides no protection against tech or force attacks. It's not a three second immortality button. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beansoup Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Evasion only works against ranged and melee attacks. It provides no protection against tech or force attacks. It's not a three second immortality button. Yes, but the problem is that it's not even always working against ranged and melee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iXSVi Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Hi, so is their any conformation if this perk is working as intended? i realized when it said 6% damage reduction when in cover but it doesn't reflect on the defense tab stats so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glower Posted October 7, 2012 Author Share Posted October 7, 2012 I send a small bug report / question in august, it was almost immediately answered with "blah blah blah" and closed. Well, as always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iXSVi Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 I send a small bug report / question in august, it was almost immediately answered with "blah blah blah" and closed. Well, as always. >_<; Anyway, has anyone gone and tested like someone said placing a dot to see the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJNJ Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Also just curious but can you use a dot to test if accuracy does give you more armor pen? You could use IP and then TA and see if there is a difference right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vimm Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Last time I looked at it it didn't show... but it was weeks from now In the future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warultima Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 I can confirmed that I purposely timed by 3 second evasion (my operative) and pop it right as Gunslingers are about to finish their Aimed Shot cast. I have been hit AND knocked back by both Aimed Shot and Ambush with evasion running yea thats the green bubble looking thing. Evasion doesnt always dodge weapon attacks, I even tried to time my evasion against Ravage but lotta times I still get hit. I dont know what to say but maybe Operative shouldn't have a working defensive CD even if it's a laughable 3 second weapon based attack only. If you would like to test this its actually fairly easy to test. Have a gunslinger friend to channel quick shot or have him lay blaster sweep AoE right on top of you (these attacks has a lot of ticks) and pop evasion on your operative you will see something like dodge dodge dodge Xwhite damage dodge dodge dodge dodge Ywhite damage and so on. The 100% is not really 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryvirath Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 I can confirmed that I purposely timed by 3 second evasion (my operative) and pop it right as Gunslingers are about to finish their Aimed Shot cast. I have been hit AND knocked back by both Aimed Shot and Ambush with evasion running yea thats the green bubble looking thing. Evasion doesnt always dodge weapon attacks, I even tried to time my evasion against Ravage but lotta times I still get hit. I dont know what to say but maybe Operative shouldn't have a working defensive CD even if it's a laughable 3 second weapon based attack only. If you would like to test this its actually fairly easy to test. Have a gunslinger friend to channel quick shot or have him lay blaster sweep AoE right on top of you (these attacks has a lot of ticks) and pop evasion on your operative you will see something like dodge dodge dodge Xwhite damage dodge dodge dodge dodge Ywhite damage and so on. The 100% is not really 100% You can with the buff exceed 100% accuracy. Snipers can hit 140% acc pretty easily and I know at least with saber ward your hit rate seems to be the difference of the two numbers. I didn't think evasion worked the same way, but if it's 140% - 105% or some such that would explain it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altheran Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 (edited) In the future? Did I write something wrong (I'm not a native english-speaking, and I don't live in an english-speaking country either...) Edited October 12, 2012 by Altheran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glower Posted November 10, 2012 Author Share Posted November 10, 2012 No one checked this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glower Posted October 11, 2013 Author Share Posted October 11, 2013 Sorry for bump... But i went back to my sniper and i am confused again with Deployed Shields 6% dr. Any news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benovide Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 using recording software to record damage done/recieved, when abilities are used, what the effects were, (per rules I can't disclose what software to use, but you are allowed to use recording softwares per the ToS, you just can't use Bot softwares) and also recording my own gameplay in PvPs to really learn and understand my toons better. The Shields do not reduce any damage at all, what so ever. In not one data table I have makes any difference at all. Only thing that changes is Force Choke can't be used on you while the person trying to do it is on the other side of the shield, and that you can't get hit by a grappler hook, and so fourth either. Abilities like full auto, saber throw, normal attacks, and so fourth, cause full, complete damage without issue. Nothing the sniper had shield wise decreases any damage at all. It can PREVENT certain abilities from even effecting you, but majority, as in 99% of everything else done to cause deliberate damage, will perform full damage. However, critical hits recieved while shields are up, only cause normal damage instead of critical damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glower Posted October 11, 2013 Author Share Posted October 11, 2013 Umm.... Do you mean Deployed Shields skill (Engineering Sniper top level skill) or cover system itself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benovide Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Umm.... Do you mean Deployed Shields skill (Engineering Sniper top level skill) or cover system itself? Both. Nothing decreases damage recieved. Engineering Sniper top level skill included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glower Posted October 11, 2013 Author Share Posted October 11, 2013 (edited) Well this is really disappointing, especially for 2 points top skill... Bioware? Wait... no one reads this forum. Edited October 11, 2013 by Glower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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