Try Qing with a friend, I was told that works

alright I wont be able to update this for like a week but when i get back i will setup a new thread for it

If you are pve(assuming you are because you are parsing) MM is probably ideal. Sure you can use lethality but with the constant target swapping the spec falls behind in most cases Personally I feel engi > all, but I have a bias

Just curious, would anyone be interested if I brought this back for 2.7 stuff? Just recently got back into the game again

I do like the sound of OS giving a heal when it ticks, but I think that may push it too far for the pve end. As far as a new defensive CD like a stealth from countermeasures I simply think that is OP. The best and most reasonable thing would be to give CE some sort of root break, but even that may be too much. Lethality already gets the root break for countermeasures too. The change to Entrench also helps out abit so you can keep the immunity after you roll. There is already plenty of QQ about snipers being OP, no reason to fan the flames

That's great! I was focusing on getting my scoundrel geared up but if the spec is still usable then I'll give it a try As for using short roll I have already mastered that awhile ago(I was pretty good with the spec) I personally do not like to use it unless I have to but if i gotta use it then I'll use it

Hey all, getting back into the game after awhile and was wondering if engi sniper was even viable for pve anymore? I saw the 2.7 leaderboards and how OS only did roughly 3% of the total damage so the spec certainly got nerfed. My guild runs nightmare 16 man content so I'm looking for an idea of whether the spec will be a liability or if I can pull it off

Makes sense, didn't think of pushback for range tbh

What do you think of accounting for centering stacks when taking damage? I would have know idea how to account for this, as it changes with every fight but I feel I can reliably say occurs every fight as well.

Erm, I do play a sniper. And incase you didn't notice snipers tend to be on the higher end of the dps spectrum. Yeah somebody that is great at any class can smoke a good sniper, but as it stands there ain't much above the most skilled snipers. Heh, ya know my post was explicitly about MM right? Which is why I said things explicitly about MM, and not Engineering(btw engi sniper = Sab slinger) Hey man, there's this amazing thing called a healer, that when you take damage in the raid, the majority of the time they can heal you! I know it's a revolutionary concept, but seeing as I was talking about pve(ya know the whole raid utility part you quoted) having to worry about healing. There's also this move that we get, where we give the entire raid 20% damage reduction to all damage! Then we have a move that lets me roll and midigate all damage for a whole GCD every 20 seconds! Then we have several others including 3 hits while in cover get their damage reduced by a whole lot. That's like giving a tank an extra CD, but instead everyone gets it! They are not taking away our AOE, so we don't have to worry about that in a raid. Worst case scenario is that every run doesn't have to have a sniper in its group now. Oh yeah and the way NiM content is supposed to work is only the elite guilds can clear it, not every single guild that wants to be progression.

Go fight thrasher and don't attack adds and hope you are lucky enough not to get firebug?

I just want to know where that +-2% point is tbh, I mean if they say scrapper can go over it what does that mean for other classes?

Here is the current highest parsing marksman parse. I chopped the time down so that is the same time as yours. Check out the differences http://www.torparse.com/a/365907/time/1375450165/1375450430/0/Damage+Dealt

Your APM is ~33. It should be around ~40 I think. This can either be due to lag or skill tbh. Has your connection been iffy recently? Another thing is your Series of shots. Looks like you only used it what 15 times in the 4 and a half minute period? series of shots will be your biggest hitter. Ya gotta keep it on CD

Quite frankly according to this snippet from the scoundrel questions I don't think they wanted mm to use OS rotation ally in the first place Which is why I do not believe they will buff MM to compensate for the loss of OS. Yeah it is a lot of damage lost, but at least we won't be those dam OP snipers now with derp simple OP dps and raid utility, now we just derp simple dps with raid utility

Can you use the parses on pts for tactics and assault? I don't think you can really find any good parses from live currently...

Make it 5% or 10% and I would take it, altho it slightly benefits DF because of those T2 buffs make it tick more often

Im glad for the change as well, even if it makes my sab slinger cry . Personally I think the reason why our numbers tend to be so much higher then other classes is because we use orbital. We are much closer when we take it out of the rotation completely, and as the devs said, at least for lethality, that using OS for ST was not intended. btw can anyone calculate the 30% boosts for MM and lethality? Think if we take that into account then MM(TD+FT) would be much closer to lethality(dot damage)in a parse without OS.

Wonder what they will do to bring down sent/Mara to the other classes then

considering that theres no more objectives for arenas i actually like that idea, and sorry merr, we got to buy the augments from the CC

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Here's what I think about this. I'm copy pasting from scoundrel answer thread 3) while I'm sad about my OS getting nerfed especially since i am an engi sniper, tbh I feel it has to be toned down. Granted at the same time losing ~415 dps(going off of Nithnuro's 3265.68 dps MM parse) may hurt too much. The one thing this question really makes me want to know is this: WHAT IS THE MEAN DPS FOR ALL THE CLASSES? What's this expected number in the middle of that 5% difference. I'm sure most of us expect it to be ~3k, but if MM loses OS then that would put it at ~2850 right? looks like your parses are leaning to that too When POwertechs did AP on pts that's the number they were hitting too, and they got no execute and mostly avoid armor. Nithnuro's parse http://www.torparse.com/a/365907/tim...0/Damage+Dealt Going off my guess for what they want all the classes to hit, the 5% and TD energy energy is fine to do that. While I also think its a highly boring and crappy bonus too, hell it gets the job done.

One thing I think would be cool to see if they do try the energy over time is a stacking buff. Restores X energy over Y seconds, stacks Z times and procs off flying fists. The problem with changing from an insta 10 to over time is how would ya be able to manage energy? Things can get pretty expensive after all. Reducing cost would also be nice alternative, as rather then maybe getting energy return we can see when we will get it. Seeing a proc coma up is much nicer then hoping for one when ya attack no?

K new random thing I would like to ask but don't know how to say it:give us your data. Where are we supposed to be and what rotations/skills are we supposed to be using. What spec choices do they use and what gear do they use, and how they feel the gearing we choose. How are we supposed to stand on their paper they got drawn out.

So first you say that. Then you say Hmm... Something doesn't feel right here. Generally undercon (from what I've seen) doesn't call you out on your random BS spewing, except for maybe Evan, yet you say you only attack people hostile to you.