tehrealdealz Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Was doing my pvp daily/weeklies on my Pyro Merc and Pyro Vanguard and after a couple of matches on my merc was starting to wonder what exactly is the role of a merc in PVP and what will the role of a merc be when rated wzs come if they come at all. For example, on my vanguard I can interrupt a healer if I have to. I can harpoon a ball carrier into one of the hazards in huttball or use it to peel for my healer. I can switch to Ion Gas cylinder for a bit and throw guard on someone to protect them. I can AOE taunt and reduce the damage of enemy players or single player taunt as well. On my merc, I can....do poor damage? Dont get me wrong i enjoy my merc cause he's my first level 50 toon and I am still gearing him up for rated WZs but it just seems like my vanguard brings a lot more to the table in PVP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skotish Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Was doing my pvp daily/weeklies on my Pyro Merc and Pyro Vanguard and after a couple of matches on my merc was starting to wonder what exactly is the role of a merc in PVP and what will the role of a merc be when rated wzs come if they come at all. For example, on my vanguard I can interrupt a healer if I have to. I can harpoon a ball carrier into one of the hazards in huttball or use it to peel for my healer. I can switch to Ion Gas cylinder for a bit and throw guard on someone to protect them. I can AOE taunt and reduce the damage of enemy players or single player taunt as well. On my merc, I can....do poor damage? Dont get me wrong i enjoy my merc cause he's my first level 50 toon and I am still gearing him up for rated WZs but it just seems like my vanguard brings a lot more to the table in PVP. A Merc is just a Target dummy just now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperomegaOP Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 uh your 1 of most damaging single target dps in the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phrase Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 It's the AC you play if you want Nightmare Mode PvP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rikeryo Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 free practice dummy i like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odahviin Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Ummm i have a guild buddy who owns pretty much every AC in this game with his merc he pulls amazing damage / killing blows and is always the top of the chart. what cracks me up is everyone out there screaming for buffs for his class which he is an absolute beast at. go on buff the merc your just going to make him even more powerful and he can continue to laugh while steamrolling you all. The question you all should be asking yourselves is why can some players in wz's do it and not yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roast-Beast Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Ummm i have a guild buddy who owns pretty much every AC in this game with his merc he pulls amazing damage / killing blows and is always the top of the chart. what cracks me up is everyone out there screaming for buffs for his class which he is an absolute beast at. go on buff the merc your just going to make him even more powerful and he can continue to laugh while steamrolling you all. The question you all should be asking yourselves is why can some players in wz's do it and not yourself.\ your server must be full of nub sauce. anyway the role of the merc/mando is to heal. get used to it. the dps output (besides mopping up noobs with "gunnery spec") is garbage. I out dps pyro/assult on my combat medic if i want to, and the channeling for gunnery is a joke. Learn to heal, and they will love you. Learn to heal, and they will fear you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roast-Beast Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 uh your 1 of most damaging single target dps in the game? PS, your not doing single target damage if the target is shooting back at you... Hitting a target dummy sure.... but we all know fighting people that know how to actually pvp you dont stand a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odahviin Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 (edited) \ your server must be full of nub sauce. anyway the role of the merc/mando is to heal. get used to it. the dps output (besides mopping up noobs with "gunnery spec") is garbage. I out dps pyro/assult on my combat medic if i want to, and the channeling for gunnery is a joke. Learn to heal, and they will love you. Learn to heal, and they will fear you. It certainly appears to be. I do find it interesting that good players excel in whatever class they play (what an interesting correlation) The point still stands however. Edited May 12, 2012 by Odahviin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDiggy Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Every team needs cannon fodder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easpeak Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Every team needs cannon fodder. Apparently I'm a tank: screeny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahhmyface Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 (edited) Enough with the blatant whining. Stop acting like kids and have a real discussion. Merc's are probably supposed to be the ranged aoe dps class. Death from above should have never been nerfed, and they definitely need some improved defensive/escape cooldowns. Hoping to see some improvements in 1.3. Edited May 12, 2012 by Ahhmyface Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easpeak Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Enough with the blatant whining. Stop acting like kids and have a real discussion. Merc's are probably supposed to be the ranged aoe dps class. Death from above should have never been nerfed, and they definitely need some improved defensive/escape cooldowns. Hoping to see some improvements in 1.3. You just whined, sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Eternal- Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Was doing my pvp daily/weeklies on my Pyro Merc and Pyro Vanguard and after a couple of matches on my merc was starting to wonder what exactly is the role of a merc in PVP and what will the role of a merc be when rated wzs come if they come at all. For example, on my vanguard I can interrupt a healer if I have to. I can harpoon a ball carrier into one of the hazards in huttball or use it to peel for my healer. I can switch to Ion Gas cylinder for a bit and throw guard on someone to protect them. I can AOE taunt and reduce the damage of enemy players or single player taunt as well. On my merc, I can....do poor damage? Dont get me wrong i enjoy my merc cause he's my first level 50 toon and I am still gearing him up for rated WZs but it just seems like my vanguard brings a lot more to the table in PVP. The role of merc currently is to die as fast as humanely possible. Merc DPS is a liability currently; don't even que with one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tehrealdealz Posted May 12, 2012 Author Share Posted May 12, 2012 The role of merc currently is to die as fast as humanely possible. Merc DPS is a liability currently; don't even que with one. umm. sad thing is I PLAY a merc. it was my first level 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashogy Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 mercs role is to kill things. pretty straight forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serpieri Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 (edited) Mercs are cannon fodder - Pyro Mercs can get high damage due to dots - but in PVP burst is king - especially instant cast burst. Some Pyros can get about 4k on a TD, have yet to see one get higher yet. Edited May 12, 2012 by Serpieri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashogy Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Mercs are cannon fodder - Pyro Mercs can get high damage due to dots - but in PVP burst is king - especially instant cast burst. Some Pyros can get about 4k on a TD, have yet to see one get higher yet. pyrotech is NOT a dot spec. not sure why people think this still........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serpieri Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 pyrotech is NOT a dot spec. not sure why people think this still........ The class has dots. Combustible Gas Cylinder Activation: 1.5 secs Loads your blaster with combustible gas, giving all of your blaster attacks a 10% chance to deal 1295 additional elemental damage over 6 seconds. Only one cylinder can be active at a time. Incendiary Missile Instant Heat: 25 Range: 30 m Fires a missile that explodes on contact, igniting the target for 216 elemental damage and an additional 689 elemental damage over 18 seconds. Fusion Missile Activation: 1.5 secs Heat: 33 Cooldown: 30s Range: 30 m Fires a fusion missile that detonates on contact, dealing 1314 - 1773 kinetic damage to up to 3 targets within 5 meters and searing all targets with radiation burns that deal 1944 additional elemental damage over 6 seconds. Standard and weak targets enter a state of panic from the flames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraaxusKun Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Was doing my pvp daily/weeklies on my Pyro Merc and Pyro Vanguard and after a couple of matches on my merc was starting to wonder what exactly is the role of a merc in PVP and what will the role of a merc be when rated wzs come if they come at all. For example, on my vanguard I can interrupt a healer if I have to. I can harpoon a ball carrier into one of the hazards in huttball or use it to peel for my healer. I can switch to Ion Gas cylinder for a bit and throw guard on someone to protect them. I can AOE taunt and reduce the damage of enemy players or single player taunt as well. On my merc, I can....do poor damage? Dont get me wrong i enjoy my merc cause he's my first level 50 toon and I am still gearing him up for rated WZs but it just seems like my vanguard brings a lot more to the table in PVP. DPS Support, sit back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fungihoujo Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 What do you get when you have a turret class, with little in the way of CC and mobility, little in the way of defensive abilities- and not even the best damage in the game? Sentinel snacks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serpieri Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 DPS Support, sit back Marauders are a stronger dps class with better support. And by far the better choice to take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraaxusKun Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Marauders are a stronger dps class with better support. And by far the better choice to take. But he isn't a marauder, and that isn't the point of this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serpieri Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 But he isn't a marauder, and that isn't the point of this thread. that is the point - mercs dont have a role - unless you count cannon fodder as one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phrase Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 \ anyway the role of the merc/mando is to heal. get used to it. the dps output (besides mopping up noobs with "gunnery spec") is garbage. I out dps pyro/assult on my combat medic if i want to, and the channeling for gunnery is a joke. So what you're saying is our AC is 1/3 for viable trees, and that we should let BW off the hook by not asking them to make the other two trees at least somewhat competitive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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