Bonkbonk Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 When I make groups, I actually have no trouble finding tanks, but healers is another story. My theory is that, when you spend points in the tank tree, you actually get abilities that boost your damage, making soloing as a tank much more pleasent. But healer trees don't have that. I can understand that healers being able to do damage would unbalance the game somewhat, but I believe that's why there are so few of them around. I tried leveling as corruption, then I switched to lightning. Much much faster + AoE. I'd hate to sound wowish, but a dual spec system would be awesome. I know I will get flamed a lot for suggestion that, but it's ok, I got my suit on. P.S: It started out as a question, but ended up with a suggestion, pardon me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thormart Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 this varies from server to server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambrogino Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 TBO everyone's a tank... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muanthuun Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 (edited) When I make groups, I actually have no trouble finding tanks, but healers is another story. My theory is that, when you spend points in the tank tree, you actually get abilities that boost your damage, making soloing as a tank much more pleasent. But healer trees don't have that. I can understand that healers being able to do damage would unbalance the game somewhat, but I believe that's why there are so few of them around. I tried leveling as corruption, then I switched to lightning. Much much faster + AoE. I'd hate to sound wowish, but a dual spec system would be awesome. I know I will get flamed a lot for suggestion that, but it's ok, I got my suit on. P.S: It started out as a question, but ended up with a suggestion, pardon me. If you are worried about healers then you should make a healer. I understand you tried, but really should just keep at it. Edited December 17, 2011 by Muanthuun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleSwords Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 What level did you switch over? Did companions help balance out soloability? I thought they might, but all my characters are low level. Still trying to decide commando or tank on my trooper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remair Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Lots of tanks can be explained with the fact that Jedi and Sith standard class is a tank... so folk wanting to be jedi/sith warriors go as a tank. People who want to be inquisitors at least tend to do so to use evil force powers rarther than heal. I am a sorcerer but speccing as a DPS guy purely because its more fun for me. Lightening! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sendrel Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 When I make groups, I actually have no trouble finding tanks, but healers is another story. My theory is that, when you spend points in the tank tree, you actually get abilities that boost your damage, making soloing as a tank much more pleasent. But healer trees don't have that. I can understand that healers being able to do damage would unbalance the game somewhat, but I believe that's why there are so few of them around. I tried leveling as corruption, then I switched to lightning. Much much faster + AoE. I'd hate to sound wowish, but a dual spec system would be awesome. I know I will get flamed a lot for suggestion that, but it's ok, I got my suit on. P.S: It started out as a question, but ended up with a suggestion, pardon me. Its a UI issue. The UI is horrifyingly bad for healers. Healers can actually do pretty decent damage and can solo much of the Heroic 2 content. The problem you're running into is that people don't want to fight a craptacular UI. And Dual Spec would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digma Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 (edited) I think we have about 5 healers in our guild, who consider their Jedi Consular Sage their main. So I reckon it depends on your server and perhaps even the time you play? No clue to be honest. All I know is that I haven't experienced a deficit so far. Edited December 17, 2011 by Digma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amnie Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I'm sorry, I can't be everywhere. it's still a few years until they start cloning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esaru Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I think it's partially because people are leveling and don't want to choose a healing spec to level up with. I don't blame them either - there needs to be a dual AC spec (not changing your AC but your skill trees). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkilZodiac Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Early game healer is VERY difficult to manage, especially if you're in a group. You don't have the talents or gear good enough to keep from going OOM all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekadez Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Real tanking isn't really required until higher level. Healers are rare on my server too, at least in the 20-25 bracket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putok Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I do agree that dual spec would be very nice. Not sure why it isn't in, I thought it was sort of a "standard" MMO feature at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tehmoose Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I'm a healing Commando. I'll heal for my guildies and I won't Pug. I hate the UI. I hate not having a dual-spec option. However, having a companion mitigates the latter a bit. But I would wager that people are not leveling as heals cause its slower. Story is all well and good... but you gotta make mobs dead to get to the next cutscene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fnuggi Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I healed some heroic +4 area earlier today as a merc BH. We where 3 in the group, 2 sith assasins and me.... don't be afraid to heal if needed might save you some time standing around looking for a "real" healer. didn't exactly feel at home doing it, but we got it done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distractor_Beam Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 The problem with an Inquisitor healer, is the lightning is so damn awesome that people are easily drawn to the destructive capability of the sorcerer and healing gets thrown out the door. Healing....not so awesome. Not yet anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jollycynic Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Its a UI issue. The UI is horrifyingly bad for healers. Healers can actually do pretty decent damage and can solo much of the Heroic 2 content. The problem you're running into is that people don't want to fight a craptacular UI. And Dual Spec would be great. The UI is a HUGE part of it. I seriously considered waiting to roll a healer until they fixed it. Additionally, the control setup itself is trash. Automatic self casting when you don't have a valid target is unacceptable as well. This game is desperately in need of the ability to hotkey an ability and click on the target, or the ability to hovercast. Without this, a healer can't heal and maintain a hostile target for interrupts and so forth, which is damn near essential for effective group support and hybrid play. Oh, also the group/op frames need to be fixed so they display health totals in real time rather than what they were 10 minutes ago. And group frames need to display health numbers. I'm gonna stop now so I don't continue to nit pick. I love this game immensely, I just hate how badly things are implemented for healers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastersix Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I currently play a smuggler healer and i enjoy playing it but... I dont really see how its unique in any way like bioware said it was, they said that healing would be different then any other game but its not...imo. Back on topic i think another reason is because 70% of people today cant heal with out some sort of healbot.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kraun Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 (edited) Thinking most folk just play DPS until they're capped, then swaps to their chosen healing spec, that's what i am doing (tho i still heal in heroics if it looks like its needed), it eases up the soloing parts. Edited December 17, 2011 by Kraun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt_shades Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 1) The UI sucks for healing 2) The raid bars health indication isn't accurate (broke since beta) 3) Against organized pvp focusing, heals are useless. 4) Heals in general, just can't keep up with dps unless 1 on 1. 5) Before the medium heal at level 12 or so, and armor buff at 16, its really bad. Most probably don't see it through. 6) No durability, so against organized pvp you spend more time respawning because you get focused. Against pugs, they're fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SithSweetiepie Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Back on topic i think another reason is because 70% of people today cant heal with out some sort of healbot.... Quoted for truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jollycynic Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I don't need a healbot, but I do need simple little things like having the choice to display a player's health deficit instead of their current health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirjava Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 When I make groups, I actually have no trouble finding tanks, but healers is another story. My theory is that, when you spend points in the tank tree, you actually get abilities that boost your damage, making soloing as a tank much more pleasent. But healer trees don't have that. I can understand that healers being able to do damage would unbalance the game somewhat, but I believe that's why there are so few of them around. I tried leveling as corruption, then I switched to lightning. Much much faster + AoE. I'd hate to sound wowish, but a dual spec system would be awesome. I know I will get flamed a lot for suggestion that, but it's ok, I got my suit on. P.S: It started out as a question, but ended up with a suggestion, pardon me. I'm a healer (SI), and I can solo incredibly easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastersix Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I'm a healer (SI), and I can solo incredibly easily. I alsO have no problems soloing... I actually level just as fast as everybody else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillbillySith Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I heal just fine, yet I dont play my healer much because of the people I end up in pugs with. If you take off in a random direction and start pulling stuff and your not the tank dont expect heals. If you start griping at me that you died because you didnt get heals you can expect me to apologize to the tank and leave group, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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