Raximillian Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 This /\ The folks here saying NO are probably in healthy sized guilds that constantly run stuff. If you choose to not be in a guild or you have a small guild, you are forced to stand around spamming chat. I don't understand why people say no to this when you don't have to use it if you don't want to. How can more options be a bad thing??? I have the option to jump of a bridge, that does not make it a good option. As others have said, it can reduce the community feeling of the game. I'm not saying it's the sole destroyer of server community. but it certainly does not help it. And as you can see, most people do want some kind of LFG tool, just not x-server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cataphractone Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Yes, I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaApacHe Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Yes, of course I do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivalice Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mangarrage Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 no cross server Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicrodhe Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 No cross server Yes to server LFG unless ofc the population is so splintered then maybe cross server LFG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmthethird Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 no. you say faster grouping. its not faster if the group disbands after 5 mins because some1 dies. and you have to look for a new group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disdaine Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 no. you say faster grouping. its not faster if the group disbands after 5 mins because some1 dies. and you have to look for a new group The same thing can happen from a group created from random general chat warm bodies. At least with a LFG tool, you could be returned to your previous location and could continue whatever it was that you were doing. ... because we all find it fun traveling to an instance, having it break early and being returned to the start. /sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorgrin Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Yes. I want to be able to do the flashpoints. My server at the moment is standard pop, but I still have a hard time finding people to do the flashpoints with. I would even take a global server wide LFG messaging tool. I HATE having to go to the fleet, only to find it empty. If we could at least post a LFG over all planets then that would be a great start. I know a lot of players say the LFG group will ruin the flashpoint experience. At least with it we would get to do them. I dont like out leveling flaspoints simply because nobody does them. I want to see content, and get social points. The gear drops are just a bonus for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstring Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 No and No:wea_03: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaltastic Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 (edited) Yes to LFG that is cross-server People keep using the fringe case of the baddie who abuses the system but is still able to get groups thanks to x-server. There is a big assumption being made here that with the current system or a server only tool that this same baddie would be so infamous that everyone using chat/lfg tool knows this person by name and could avoid him. Could it happen? Sure it could but why do people want a system that is designed to address the uncommon scenarios instead of the very common scenario that it sucks having to stand in fleet and spam for a group. If there was a LFG tool why would you want to limit the pool of players in the queue just so this theoretical bad player doesn't benefit. What community does the x-server LFG tool destroy? People in general chat calling each other out after someone ninja's an item or fails in a FP? If you are grouping with the same people for FP's over and over that you are actually creating some sort of personal bond with them that is a good sign right there that the pool of players available to group with needs expanding Edited April 20, 2012 by Kaltastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmthethird Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 The same thing can happen from a group created from random general chat warm bodies. At least with a LFG tool, you could be returned to your previous location and could continue whatever it was that you were doing. ... because we all find it fun traveling to an instance, having it break early and being returned to the start. /sarcasm not so much. if you do that too many times on your own server in the end you won't be able to get a group. on cross server LFG you can do this to as many groups as you like with no worry's about finding the next group. server transfers will sort out the problem of not fining a group. there is no need for a cross server LFG, it allows bad habbits to become the norm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tifadore Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Yes, GOD YES! Must have, ignore everyone here who say they don't need it, they don't count! The general casual community needs this badly! YES! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disdaine Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 I stated before I would be content with an in-server LFG as well. I don't care about my reputation, I won't be the one dropping or kicking/screaming when I don't win a roll. I can always run it again and random rolls are fair so long as their going to use the gear. Not everyone wants a LFG system to be a d**chebage :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WizardMagus Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Yes, definitely. Even if a server is populated, it doesn't mean anyone wants to run the instance you want to run right now. This is especially true for leveling instances. There are problems with it, but people who scream about it "ruining WoW" seem to have forgotten. WoW initially implemented as server only AND IT DID NOT WORK!!! Just not enough people on most servers wanting to do a given instance. You could, sometimes, get groups for end-game level instances, but it was totally useless for the leveling instances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiysis Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Yes but the LFG tool should try to set up groups from the same server when possible. Honestly I think a lot of the concerns about players from other servers being jerks is a bit overblown by a lot of people. A single-server LFG tool would be useless on my dead server anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Depredator Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 (edited) No. Patience, tolerance, and common courtesy are the first casualties of the x-server group finder. Combine that with the reality that you tend to run the instances until you reach the point that you are absolutely sick of them and you end up in an untenable position as a player: the love/hate relationship with your game. Edited April 20, 2012 by Depredator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disdaine Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 You know, it would be nice if you can toggle whether or not you're interested in cross server groups. That way those that only want to play same-server can. Granted, they'll probably wait longer too. I do kind of see one area where others are coming from. They like things how they are and by adding a LFG tool they will lose out on that many more people they could group with "their way". I'm still for a LFG tool and providing choice, but you can see how, by adding that feature, they'll have something taken away from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Depredator Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 You know, it would be nice if you can toggle whether or not you're interested in cross server groups. That way those that only want to play same-server can. Granted, they'll probably wait longer too. I do kind of see one area where others are coming from. They like things how they are and by adding a LFG tool they will lose out on that many more people they could group with "their way". I'm still for a LFG tool and providing choice, but you can see how, by adding that feature, they'll have something taken away from them. If BW decides to release a x-server tool, the toggle really isn't a bad idea at all. I think I mentioned the same thing in one of my posts a few months ago. Options are good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGalucard Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Modern mmos communities like the cake are a lie. So yes i want cross server lfg. A local lfg will not make anyone anyone more accountable for their actions, people are too busy playing the game to care about some random dispute in general chat about who ninja what in a fp run without having any actual source of factual information regarding the event. I If you dont like someone kick it from the group , there is no such a thing as a community people dont care about beyond the few nostalgic diehards in the forums. You dont like cross server lfg? stick to grouping with your guild? why use it ? if you dont need it now you wont need it then. If your guildies and friends jump ship and use it then i guess "community" wasnt nearly as important for them as you thought it was and turns out they were simply doing it cus they had no choice. A force community is not worth preserving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGalucard Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 not so much. if you do that too many times on your own server in the end you won't be able to get a group. on cross server LFG you can do this to as many groups as you like with no worry's about finding the next group. server transfers will sort out the problem of not fining a group. there is no need for a cross server LFG, it allows bad habbits to become the norm that would hold true at a pre wow world at this point no one will reach that level on infamy in a server. Unless they actively work at it. No one cares these days about the random dude that ninjed some random item on some random fp. Most people simply move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mezla Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Yes. That's the only thing that can still save this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decrescendo Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Simple yes... if you dont like it dont use it, it wont destory anything by having one in... Having more options is always better.... FACTT!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmerrill Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Yes, we need it. Population too low to find groups on existing servers leaving us only PvP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrpoodles Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Nope. Server only LFG Yes. we dont need this to be a wow and have jerks in groups. yes jerks are in Server groups but lot less likely to be a jerk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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