TheHeadCapper Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 No game NEEDS macros. I get sick of hearing things like this. Macros are just a from of cheating anyway and I would prefer Bioware not allow them. quoted for truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrGerm Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 People who demand add-on's and macros are people who want easy mode... This keeps getting brought up and NOTHING regarding this statement makes a bit of sense... whatsoever... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorkir Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I have no major complaints about the UI. However, I would very much like macros to be available, since healing is quite tough without them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monoth Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Let me add that anything that makes the game more fluid and allows the player to focus more on the action is a good thing. Anyone who thinks Mouseover is some kind of cheat or exploit is seriously deficient. It's an alternate targeting system. Maybe the genius you were posting will argue against F key targeting next. ROFL. Bioware balanced combat based on the fact that a healer has to click on the person they want to heal and then click on the button to execute that heal... If they allow Mouseover healing then they will need to re-balance healing accordingly.... since healers will be able to heal a lot faster with a mouseover healing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zootzoot Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 This keeps getting brought up and NOTHING regarding this statement makes a bit of sense... whatsoever... I don't get it either. It's like a weird knee jerk reaction form the people who froth at the mouth with any mention of WOW. Addons = WOW to them it seems. TBH the people most afraid of combat log addons aren't going to be in Raiding Guilds anyway. It's a PuG issue for them and who care about PuG's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monoth Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 This keeps getting brought up and NOTHING regarding this statement makes a bit of sense... whatsoever... If you don't think adding macro's where you push one button and several actions occur as not being easy mode then your delusional... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monoth Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I don't get it either. It's like a weird knee jerk reaction form the people who froth at the mouth with any mention of WOW. Addons = WOW to them it seems. TBH the people most afraid of combat log addons aren't going to be in Raiding Guilds anyway. It's a PuG issue for them and who care about PuG's? If you can't figure out the right rotation without a program telling you then you fail as a player... How did people survive playing MMO's without easy mode add-ons and macros... they must of just sat in game all day long doing nothing because with out them the game was impossible to play... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypsezero Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Why isn't anyone willing to try and overcome the challenge before them? I'm not saying no to what op is saying, just why complain now before the first patch when these issues are already known to Bioware? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davewolfgang Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I suppose then, that those who come here and demand them, are the same sad sacks that ruined raiding in WoW with all the demands, and decided to migrate here, bringing their attitude problems with them, like a plague. Before moving on to yet another game to warp until it breaks. Meanwhile, they post moronic crap like you just did, about how the opposition are just "baddies" (seriously, outside of gamers, only little children use the "you just suck at it" defense) because they don't need to play the game with a dozen different mods to hold your hand through every boss fight. Fights that you'll most assuredly be here complaining about to do being "too easy" and not hardcore enough, weeks later -after demanding that a mod be made to shoot fireworks into your face every time you need to get "out of the fire". +100,000!!!!! Exactly!! I just wish if you have your helm hidden, that your Jedi Robe's hood would ALSO be off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zootzoot Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 If you can't figure out the right rotation without a program telling you then you fail as a player... How did people survive playing MMO's without easy mode add-ons and macros... they must of just sat in game all day long doing nothing because with out them the game was impossible to play... Another genius chimes in. What are you babbling about? There are two kinds of add ons.... 1) UI add ons that allow the player to customize the look and feel of every aspect of the User Interface (Hot Bars, Unit Frames, Party/Raid Frames, Buffs/Debuffs, etc.) None of those has anything to do with using abilities. 2) Combat Log Addons. These use the combat log to display information in a fashion controlled by the player. They also allow logging of fights to parse exactly what happened when. It's not just about how much damage you did. Again these add ons can't perform any specific action for you. Some add ons allow the player to enter a priority list and display when those abilities are off CD. Is this the thing that's bugging you??? Macro's just save key presses. If I want to use a Relic ability that's off the GCD (or use any ability off the GCD for that matter) it saves Keybinds to be able to Macro that ability with a GCD triggering ability. Maybe you're just too sponge brained to make macros that work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brool Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 ui does suck, but i prefer not having any outside mod's or macro's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamataKahn Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Addons are already confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrys Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 If you are a bad player, it ruins the game for you, because people see how crap you really are and moan at you. actually macros enable the bads to compete with the goods. but they also prevent carpal tunnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kunitsukami Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Addons are already confirmed. Bioware Dev addons, not community open add ons like on curse etc. Which is a bit better, but I just hope they don't add any metering systems or allow people to basically click one button to do every move they have one after the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MukeFreerider Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Keep the mods and macros out of this game. If the default UI sucks, at least we're all on the same even playing field with the UI. Tired of these games where Captain Junior Programmer can roflstomp his competition because he sat in his parent's basement and taught himself how to program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mankub Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 If they make the UI more customizable/user friendly then I'm fine, but as it is something needs to be done about how clunky the UI and AH are. I hope they either fix the UI to be fully customizable and scalable or open up the game for mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootist Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I'd love to see a customisable UI, but it's a big NO to the hand-holding addons and macroes for the attention deficit gamers who can't develop a little situational awareness and ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colobulous Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 If the default UI sucks, at least we're all on the same even playing field with the UI. No, we're not. That's the point of customization, to level the actual field instead of creating a false inequality. Tired of these games where Captain Junior Programmer can roflstomp his competition because he sat in his parent's basement and taught himself how to program. It's impossible to avoid that at some levels, since a computer can do anything you can do in terms of interacting with another computer program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drogah Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 First off, you guys are right: the UI is hideous. I strongly dislike the fact that I can't chain three bars on the bottom of my screen. However, the sentiment that the game is unplayable because of it is a little out there, and calls for a sense of perspective. Just because the UI is terrible doesn't break the game. I've played through 33 very enjoyable levels on my Sage, and have noticed moments where the messy UI became a liability, but it was easy to adjust my playstyle for it. AT THE TOP OF MY LIST here: Please, please, please make more than two bars available at the bottom of the screen! That there are only two rows makes it impossible for me to quickly get my skills off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenicord Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Sounds like a lot of people on here whining are used to having games spoon fed to them. I don't think this games needs mods or marcros in teh slightest. In fact I laugh, and feel sorry for, those who think otherwise, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpsStranger Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Tired of these games where Captain Junior Programmer can roflstomp his competition because he sat in his parent's basement and taught himself how to program. Cry some more? Read a book? http://www.amazon.com/Beginning-Lua-Programming-Programmer-ebook/dp/B005J58M7Y/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1324350996&sr=8-1-fkmr1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpsStranger Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Sounds like a lot of people on here whining are used to having games spoon fed to them. I don't think this games needs mods or marcros in teh slightest. In fact I laugh, and feel sorry for, those who think otherwise, I'm sorry you got kicked out for low DPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmical Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Id prefer macros and mods not be implemented, such features simply dumb the game and and make it into a "push 2 maybe 3 keys + have popup messages telling you which one of those buttons you should push" You want a baby game any 5 year old could play, go back to WoW and play a panda or whatever dumb thing they added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpsStranger Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Id prefer macros and mods not be implemented, such features simply dumb the game and and make it into a "push 2 maybe 3 keys + have popup messages telling you which one of those buttons you should push" You want a baby game any 5 year old could play, go back to WoW and play a panda or whatever dumb thing they added. Archiving all of this for the day addons and macros are implemented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodWolfe Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 No addons and no macros! They just ruin games. Maybe skins but nothing more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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