Velaran Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Seriously. I just don't get it. In many of the "Vs" threads that have popped up, i've seen many people say that Revan would lose hands down, without any contest, and i'm just a bit confused as to why. My personal guess? All of his buildup in the Revan novel, combined with the toning down of The Exile, has simply gotten some of the people who were ambivalent about him to now dismiss him as a complete joke when compaired to other, better-known characters. Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthkargtor Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Seriously. I just don't get it. In many of the "Vs" threads that have popped up, i've seen many people say that Revan would lose hands down, without any contest, and i'm just a bit confused as to why. My personal guess? All of his buildup in the Revan novel, combined with the toning down of The Exile, has simply gotten some of the people who were ambivalent about him to now dismiss him as a complete joke when compaired to other, better-known characters. Any thoughts? people who love the exile hate how she died and non of her story was told in depth in a story shared between revan and lord scourge TWO main characters needed for SWTOR more than she was and so she had to assume a secondary role and after Kotor 2 where her special ability allowed her to best three sith lords they didn't like her being a side kick companion , as most do not see the importance of her death reflecting lord scourges progress and relevance further on in the story line. The rest are the results of OLD CORE VS NEW CORE fans trying to keep there vision of star wars relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenok Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 This could be because ingame he get's only a measly mid lvl flashpoint, as to compared how he kicked *** in KOTOR. I feel like they really toned him down, KOTOR games were all about what he did,and how his actions influenced the republic and such, now he doesn't make such impact on galactical scale... P.S. In my opinion Revan is most kickass character in star wars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karkais Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 (edited) Revan For me its an opposing response to the fandom he has. Edited April 14, 2012 by Karkais Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinitum Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Seeing my favorite SW character as a psychotic madman in a mediocre FP really hurt me They should have made Revan more epic..or at least a better storyline than giving him the axe the way they did. Still, I'm hoping that he makes a better return. Seriously... SWTOR wouldn't have happened if not for the KotOR fans. Insulting the main and player character of that beloved game and after Kreia going on non-stop deifying him... I hate that choice made by BW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velaran Posted April 14, 2012 Author Share Posted April 14, 2012 Revan For me its an opposing response to the fandom he has. In a setting where nearly every focused-on Force user can be classified as a Stu of some sort, that page doesn't mean much. Also, Revan is male. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distracted Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Seeing my favorite SW character as a psychotic madman in a mediocre FP really hurt me They should have made Revan more epic..or at least a better storyline than giving him the axe the way they did. Still, I'm hoping that he makes a better return. Seriously... SWTOR wouldn't have happened if not for the KotOR fans. Insulting the main and player character of that beloved game and after Kreia going on non-stop deifying him... I hate that choice made by BW. After 300 years trapped in a tube, tell me you wouldn't be a psychotic madman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenbrand Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 This could be because ingame he get's only a measly mid lvl flashpoint, as to compared how he kicked *** in KOTOR. I feel like they really toned him down, KOTOR games were all about what he did,and how his actions influenced the republic and such, now he doesn't make such impact on galactical scale... P.S. In my opinion Revan is most kickass character in star wars With the way Revan disappeared in The Foundry I doubt that he was at full strength fighting the hit squad. With that being said I'm sure we'd see him at full power in a future patch or an expansion if SWTOR lasts that long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karkais Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Also, Revan is male. Not mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Zone Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Revan was the "Chosen One" of his time. He actually mastered both sides of the Force, and became One with it. Very few other Jedi/Sith have achieved this, even in the Expanded Universe. By "Chosen One", I am NOT comparing him to Anakin. Just making that clear. Also, at the end of Foundry, I believe... He used Fold Space to escape. We'll most likely see him again. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Fold_space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandonSM Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Revan was the "Chosen One" of his time. He actually mastered both sides of the Force, and became One with it. Very few other Jedi/Sith have achieved this, even in the Expanded Universe. By "Chosen One", I am NOT comparing him to Anakin. Just making that clear. Also, at the end of Foundry, I believe... He used Fold Space to escape. We'll most likely see him again. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Fold_space He did not master both Sides of the Force. In fact we've only seen him do a single Dark-Side feat in his reborn. I doubt he was the Chosen One. I think Sateele could outmatch him. In Rayla Felena's words, Revan is the Poster Boy of his time. Like Anakin. But their not necessarily the most powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
statistx Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 My Revan never went truly lightside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datamonger Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 So..... What's with all the dislike for Revan? Quite an overstatement. Just because players have him losing in an extremely hypothetical encounter with nearly godlike jedi/sith doesn't mean there's dislike for the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartanik Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 (edited) Revan For me its an opposing response to the fandom he has. It cleary doesnt work that way since manny poeple hate him. Quite an overstatement. Just because players have him losing in an extremely hypothetical encounter with nearly godlike jedi/sith doesn't mean there's dislike for the man. See other threads. Edited April 14, 2012 by Spartanik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfninjajedi Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 I don't dislike him as a character, more to the point I dislike what he has become which is an overrated character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Zone Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 He did not master both Sides of the Force. In fact we've only seen him do a single Dark-Side feat in his reborn. I doubt he was the Chosen One. I think Sateele could outmatch him. In Rayla Felena's words, Revan is the Poster Boy of his time. Like Anakin. But their not necessarily the most powerful. I believe you should play The Foundry when you get the chance. Besides, it's already canon that he did achieve True Balance. He DID become One with the Force. As I said, he's one of the few to do it. Jacen Solo managed it once, as well. Also, I did not compare him to Satele. I said HIS time. The time of KotOR, not TOR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandonSM Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 I believe you should play The Foundry when you get the chance. Besides, it's already canon that he did achieve True Balance. He DID become One with the Force. As I said, he's one of the few to do it. Jacen Solo managed it once, as well. Also, I did not compare him to Satele. I said HIS time. The time of KotOR, not TOR. He achieved Balance, but that doesn't mean mastering both sides of the Force. In the Foundry he said he did, but he was also looney. To achieve Full Mastery, at least in my opinion would make him stronger than Luke and Sid. Because thats pretty much the 2 most powerful for Light-Side and Dark Side. I think the only guy that represented Balance, was that one dude. The Father in that TCW story arc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmthethird Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 After 300 years trapped in a tube, tell me you wouldn't be a psychotic madman. ^^this exactly, also i wouldn't be surprised if we havn't seen the end of revan in SWTOR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrFaroohk Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 I always loved Revan. He's awesome! Definitely a bad mofo jedi. I don't get why some people hate him just because others like him. Basing your opinions on what other people think is not really a good way to go through life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Zone Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 He achieved Balance, but that doesn't mean mastering both sides of the Force. In the Foundry he said he did, but he was also looney. To achieve Full Mastery, at least in my opinion would make him stronger than Luke and Sid. Because thats pretty much the 2 most powerful for Light-Side and Dark Side. I think the only guy that represented Balance, was that one dude. The Father in that TCW story arc. Fine. he Balanced it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelousWang Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 (edited) People have been hyping him up too much, they all think he is godlike based on video game mechanics and Kreia's "Revan was like looking at the Heart of the force". When really he was just powerful, someone really powerful like Vader, Sidious or Luke (or Vitiate) would slap him down quickly. And the active ignorance of so many people thinking he is godlike just creates hate, amongst the those who know better. I know, I have the the same hate for Mace Windu just because there are too many people who think he could honestly beat or be a match for Sidious ... which is beyond ridiculous. Edited April 14, 2012 by AngelousWang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Zone Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 People have been hyping him up too much, they all think he is godlike based on video game mechanics and Kreia's "Revan was like looking at the Heart of the force". When really he was just powerful, someone really powerful like Vader, Sidious or Luke (or Vitiate) would slap him down quickly. And the active ignorance of so many people thinking he is godlike just creates hate, amongst the those who know better. I know, I have the the same hate for Mace Windu just because there are too many people who think he could honestly beat or be a match for Sidious ... which is beyond ridiculous. And it doesn't take away from his legend when he's being voiced by Jeff Bennett in TOR. I mean, that's KYLE KATARN doing his voice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayla_Felana Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Revan was the "Chosen One" of his time. He actually mastered both sides of the Force, and became One with it. Very few other Jedi/Sith have achieved this, even in the Expanded Universe. By "Chosen One", I am NOT comparing him to Anakin. Just making that clear. Also, at the end of Foundry, I believe... He used Fold Space to escape. We'll most likely see him again. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Fold_space Highly disagree with this whole statement. He never once mastered either side if he had done, he would either be wise enough and enlightened enough not to fall to the dark side or be so corrupted by the dark side that he could not be redeemed, that is what happens when you 'master' one of the polar opposites. You also cannot achieve balance, you cannot draw from both sides of the force, you would have to simultaneously be calm and filled with rage, it's not possible, it does not work that way. He was not balanced, at all. You either draw from the Force or the Dark Side, that is how it works in this universe. Those are the laws laid down by Lucas and the higher canon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokdron Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 (edited) Revan fell to the dark side again during the fight his buff is one with the force. Then when you start beating him it switches to power of the dark side and starts using force lightning and force storm. You can't master both trying to use both will just make it easier for the dark side to corrupt you which it did to revan. Foundary spoilers. Lets not forget he wanted to genocide the imperial population the dark side would really like that. if the imperial players did not stop him, Revan plan may have caused another wound in the force. Edited April 14, 2012 by lokdron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloga Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Highly disagree with this whole statement. He never once mastered either side if he had done, he would either be wise enough and enlightened enough not to fall to the dark side or be so corrupted by the dark side that he could not be redeemed, that is what happens when you 'master' one of the polar opposites. You also cannot achieve balance, you cannot draw from both sides of the force, you would have to simultaneously be calm and filled with rage, it's not possible, it does not work that way. He was not balanced, at all. You either draw from the Force or the Dark Side, that is how it works in this universe. Those are the laws laid down by Lucas and the higher canon. If you read the book Revan it is explained, and apparently explained well enough for lucas to let it go through as part of cannon. Revan found that just as losing yourself to Rage, anger, hate, and the like could be used to fuel the dark side of the force, dwelling on the love and compassion he could fuel his power in the light side of the force as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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