Niontiin Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Don't take down the servers for patching friday the 13.th, n00bs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tornox Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 (edited) Seems like I am playing a Blizard game again !!! Edited April 13, 2012 by Tornox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pythoris Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Have you ever made an MMO before? Didn't think so. ^^This. This right here, people. In a rational world, this would destroy this thread. But we don't like in a rational world, sadly. In fact, this is the internet, the most irrational place in this irrational world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooty Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Sweet, a chance to play some ME3!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warvet Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Have you ever made an MMO before? Didn't think so. By the amount of total screw-up happening... neither has BW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MordredXIII Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Sweet, a chance to play some ME3!!! From what I hear you won't like that either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobbyeta Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 By the amount of total screw-up happening... neither has BW. uhmm wasnt it stated this was BW first mmo? .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediJoeK Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 You're honestly not comparing this game with WOW are you? I've been playing WOW since US beta and there's a reason for it. Sure, WOW has had it's downs but what this game has to offer breaks every record. Let's see if I can summarize my point of view: I have 2 level 50 characters abandoned on an empty server with no way to move them to a more populated server. Only solution: reroll somewhere else. I wanted to reroll on another server this week because it's easter holiday and I have the time. But... Wednesday: oops, sorry. we made a mistake. please download 11 gig client again. Thursday: we are applying patch 1.2 smack in the middle of the day (europe). Please check back in 8 hours. Friday: we are applying a patch to patch the patch smack in the middle of the day. Please check back in 4 hours. Friday (bonus): we screwed up the patch to patch the patch. Please check back in 8 hours. Do you honestly think this is worth 15€ per month? Do you honestly think that I have no right to form a complaint because this is an MMO and these kind of things happen with MMO's? Maybe I would take this crap if SWTOR actually was an MMO. But with 10 players in fleet at peek times on my server it hardly qualifies. But I'm a whiner that has never played MMO's and should do something else during downtime. Well, I have for the last 3 days. I've played WOW and had fun. Thanks BW, but no thanks. Even though you've got a free 30 days coming up? Enjoy your *ahem* Pandas... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palonto Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 I'm so angry right now. And we all know what happens when sith get angry. I'm going to go force choke a chicken ... Not if Havoc squad could help it. Leave that fowl alone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadProfStein Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Betcha if you gave the hobo enough booze he wouldn't have messed up this hard. Good point. If you put enough monkeys in a room together, eventually they will make art. There is honestly no excuse for this. It isn't "Growing pains." It isn't "The game is new, of course it needs a lot of down time!" Plain and simple, it's me staring at the server status page for 20 hours a week because Bioware can't make a product that works. Quite frankly, I would have prefered it if more time had been spent in developement and Beta, rather then release this piece of trash they call an MMO, and try to sell it off to us as a working product, which it clearly isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmthethird Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Not all us Americans get that bribe either. The other requirement is that you have to have a level 50 character. I get to reinstall the client as the patcher is FUBAR on my system due to today's update... Rollback, or whatever the hell it is. i'm in UK, i got it. so its not just an american bribe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warvet Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 From what I hear you won't like that either. Nope. ME 1 was awesome. ME 2 sucked. Kid got ME 3 and it's worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor_Idiot Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 I've seen worse from an MMO, so I just shrug and go play something else for a while. TOR isn't the only game I enjoy playing out of the many I own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klax Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 The guild bank was a ruse to get rid of world items. Since nobody would give up all the crap they were hoarding and which was bogging down the database, they decided to offer a place to put said items... then they deleted them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotbuddah Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 I think I deserve an in game title from bioware for reading through every page of this thread. GIMME GIMME GIMME GIMME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoMbY Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 The funny thing is, yesterday someone made a joke about this happening today (again) in TS ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenthy Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Don't take down the servers for patching friday the 13.th, n00bs Must say it's been a true friday the 13th here as well (includes swtor and other things) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irdc Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 If people who have to wait to play this game and have lost maybe a few million credits think they are getting a raw deal in this whole thing, they should stop to consider the devs who worked their butts off on 1.2 only to have it backfire like this. The ungrateful attitude of many raging members of the community likely didn't make the sting any less painful. Makes me kind of afraid that I'm actually trying to get into the game designing business... One can have empathy with the people that worked on TOR and still be critical of how the game was deployed. The game should not have launched in December. This isn't to say that the game is not fun. I think it is, all things considered. But, from a game design perspective, there were just so many obvious omissions from launch. This mainly includes a somewhat simplistic UI, bad performance issues, lack of various common features (like a LFG tool) and so on. Other than the performance issues, I can attest that fixing things the UI does not take a long time. It doesn't take months to make a LFG tool. It really doesn't. Thus, the game was pushed out for financial reasons -- to capitalize on the Christmas buying season. While I don't know the exact finances, both EA, Lucas and Bioware have enough money that they could have spent an additional month or two polishing the game. There are consequences for launching so early and what is happening right now is a good example of that. Another thing to note is that about 700 people worked on the DEVELOPMENT of TOR (not counting voice acting, legal, business, etc). This is out of control. Everquest, for example, had about 35 people that worked on it. And EQ was bigger than TOR, more bleeding edge and did not benefit from the numerous middle-ware programs that exist today. When you have so many people working on a game, you have so many different visions, require a ton of useless and unproductive meetings and you generally have mediocre game design unless there is very strong leadership and vision from the top. You also push the costs up which increases pressure to release early. So, yes, you can feel empathy for the developers and yet still believe that, from a business and design perspective, mistakes were made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MordredXIII Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 The guild bank was a ruse to get rid of world items. Since nobody would give up all the crap they were hoarding and which was bogging down the database, they decided to offer a place to put said items... then they deleted them. Jesse Ventura for President! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightyburd Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 This is why I play DnD (besides human interaction). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaddieO Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 This debacle helped me decide to pull the trigger on GW2, can't wait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediJoeK Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 By the amount of total screw-up happening... neither has BW. Neither did Blizzard, neither did 989 Studios. No MMO's are flawless, and it's assenine to think this one was going to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afloridaboy Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 The guild bank was a ruse to get rid of world items. Since nobody would give up all the crap they were hoarding and which was bogging down the database, they decided to offer a place to put said items... then they deleted them. That's a pretty complicated plan, when it'd be much simpler to just delete the item ID off the database, thus removing the item. You seem to be of the impression that items in your inventory are actually "in your inventory" as physical items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savagepotato Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 (edited) It seems like they are breaking new ground in the field of screw ups. I didn't even know it was possible to roll back select portions of the game to a pre update status individually. Much less that it was so trivial, which ever intern applied today's patch managed to do it so easily. The 1.2.0a patch had like 2 minor points on it. So my question is how do you even manage something this destructive from such a tiny change? Edited April 13, 2012 by savagepotato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHemelhof Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 I'm happy, they've motivated me to do something useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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