Bpotux Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 9/0/32 Works too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vales Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Guess I have to make a TK video some time then seeing only hybrid and balance here. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entropicdecay Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 (edited) TK is pretty nonviable given the prevalence of very high dps melee range classes (marauder, op, pt). Standing still = death. You can get away with it in an extremely strong premade where you faceroll everyone anyway, or in the occasional pug where the enemy is all completely retarded, but in average competitive PvP it doesn't work. I'm running 7/0/34, I wanted the 15% dot damage reduction to help combat the pyro/marauder madness going on at the moment. Doesn't really help a lot of the time. Edited May 11, 2012 by entropicdecay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vales Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 (edited) TK is pretty nonviable given the prevalence of very high dps melee range classes (marauder, op, pt). Standing still = death. You can get away with it in an extremely strong premade where you faceroll everyone anyway, or in the occasional pug where the enemy is all completely retarded, but in average competitive PvP it doesn't work. I'm running 7/0/34, I wanted the 15% dot damage reduction to help combat the pyro/marauder madness going on at the moment. Doesn't really help a lot of the time. Balance and Hybrid have to spam TK Throw a lot otherwise their damage is pretty irrelevant and easily dispelled by healers who have a brain. Edited May 11, 2012 by Vales Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entropicdecay Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Balance and Hybrid have to spam TK Throw a lot otherwise their damage is pretty irrelevant and easily dispelled by healers who have a brain. That is somewhat true but it's obviously a much bigger problem for deep TK builds who are missing the extra instant cast abilities. Plus as I'm sure you know, 90% of players don't have a brain. Dots don't get dispelled, it's as simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vales Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 (edited) That is somewhat true but it's obviously a much bigger problem for deep TK builds who are missing the extra instant cast abilities. Plus as I'm sure you know, 90% of players don't have a brain. Dots don't get dispelled, it's as simple as that. When I am around they will more often than not unless Restoration is on CD or I do not have the GCD free. Edited May 14, 2012 by Vales Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewgal Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Balance and Hybrid have to spam TK Throw a lot otherwise their damage is pretty irrelevant and easily dispelled by healers who have a brain. Balance dmg is periodic and instant. Take Mind Crush instant and then ticks. Usually Force in Balance is used to AoE dmg, and bump the DoTs up a notch. A good balance sage is doing more than TK Throw spam. Sometimes since they are ranged they can even act as an extra healer and spam their two heals and force armour. We also cc and interrupt. One goos strategy is to cc the healer present and then DoT another player or simply spam dots on the healer with interrupts and cc. The second option is a real pain for the healer as he ends up concentrating on themselves rather than the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kentachi Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Tbh I don't see healers dispelling at all. And that got nothing to do with their skill level, it's merely a matter of them having to concentrate on their own survival and to raise the healthbars of others. If a guy is nuked by 2 other AND have a dot on him, then it would make sense to heal if he was near death, rather than dispelling which would kill him, right? Just my opinions :> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwalahh Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 The Global it costs to dispell your dots on 1 target isn't worth it when you have the burst capabilities of an angry vanguard / sent/ Gunslinger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vimm Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 It bugs me when people just spam dots.You aren't helping your team in anyway and are just trying to make it look like you are awesome at dpsing. I've been trying this specc out and I've found my dps is hitting the same numbers I ussually hit with the hybrid,it may look wierd but try it,it is very good for 1v1s and support dps'ing. http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#600G0bZbczZfRbRsMkrc.1 I'm suprised not many people used the 10% AoE dmg increase in the seer tree as much,as you end up getting wicked crits with force inbalance. Seems wasteful to go into that tree for a 10% AoE box that will only apply to two abilities. Think about that you're giving up for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kumakichi Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Tbh I don't see healers dispelling at all. And that got nothing to do with their skill level, it's merely a matter of them having to concentrate on their own survival and to raise the healthbars of others. If a guy is nuked by 2 other AND have a dot on him, then it would make sense to heal if he was near death, rather than dispelling which would kill him, right? Just my opinions :> This is what I'm seeing too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrkab Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Jumped on to my Sage for the first time since January, looked at the talent tree and went with the same build I've been using for almost a year. Still mopped up 1v1, still saved teammates, still had the most kills, killing blows, solo kills, medals, and still had 300k damage and 100k healing. All that after the rest of the world has 5 months to catch up and outgear me and when I couldn't even quite remember where I left my stun and lift. So, basically, what is all the whining about? I've been playing a Sage since July of last year, way back even before people were crying non-stop about how OP Sage is in beta. Not much has changed, but some how the whining has gone full circle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kentachi Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 They are just used to being better than best. Now they are only best. xD /love from a guardian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eventidephoenix Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 They are just used to being better than best. Now they are only best. xD /love from a guardian you dug up an old thread to make an arbitrary sweeping statement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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