Jumped on to my Sage for the first time since January, looked at the talent tree and went with the same build I've been using for almost a year. Still mopped up 1v1, still saved teammates, still had the most kills, killing blows, solo kills, medals, and still had 300k damage and 100k healing. All that after the rest of the world has 5 months to catch up and outgear me and when I couldn't even quite remember where I left my stun and lift. So, basically, what is all the whining about? I've been playing a Sage since July of last year, way back even before people were crying non-stop about how OP Sage is in beta. Not much has changed, but some how the whining has gone full circle.

I would. It's Yahtzee. That's as close as you're going to get to a positive review.

I will say it was the best I ever played... in beta. By the time launch came around Bioware had made enough bad moves to turn it to just "good" and now.. meh.

So "all" of the classes in your 50s bracket are "both" Assassin, Sorcerer, Powertech and Mercenary?

Would that be the overpowered Scoundrel/Operative, the overpowered Sage/Sorcerer, the overpowered Commando/Mercenary, the overpowered Vanguard/Powertech or the class this thread is about, the overpowered Shadow/Assassin? Most of my games have reasonably even class distributions.

Well get this, I'm playing a Sage and a Vanguard and I agree with him. They were good for two things. Healing and burst. Now they're good for healing.

Right, and it's not my fault if a bug accidentally gives me fourteen trillion credits. I'm sure that won't stop you from asking for a rollback when I give 10 billion to a thousand of my closest friends and use the other four thousand billion to buy every single item on the AH and thoroughly destroy the economy. It's not about whose fault it is, it's about the long term health of the game. One of the few things an MMO must have is at least the illusion of fairness or people quit.

10-60 is clearly not something you're supposed to be doing in a day. We're talking about 90+ hours of warzones (not counting queues) where you both win and score 9-10 medals worth of valor. It is also clear Bioware did not intend for a group of Imperials to AoE the medical center respawn point instantly killing every spawn. It was both a valor exploit and griefing, hence the hot fix today. If all that happened was someone gained a few valor levels then it's no big deal. However if people gained many valor levels, especially beyond 50 where the curve is exponential, then we're talking about someone exploiting weeks or even months worth of valor. That is a big deal. If you think I'm going to stick around playing warzones with a bunch of Battlemasters that exploited to get there in order to achieve it legitimately you're mistaken. I'll just take my time and money elsewhere.

So prove it and get a screenshot.

Because alts on the opposite faction and a macro to click the same place on the screen repeatedly is hard to come by.

You can't go around anything when you die within seconds of respawning and there is no option to respawn elsewhere. Try to know what the bloody thread is about before you post derogatory crap.

"Potential issues." Laughing stock of the industry at this point.

No they didn't. Not on Ilum. Why? These problems were foreseeable and obvious. They were apparent. There is no excuse for this. TL;DR I pay for a product, hire a competent designer already.

Oh stop it already. This is not an "oversight". This is utter incompetence on display. Nothing about Ilum has been mysterious or unpredictable. Even were the turrets not giving Valor it would still be a horrible, broken piece of crap.

Actually most of it came from medals. I get those regardless of how much we win or lose. Wins actually aren't worth much.

You don't even know the correct class names. A Sorcerer doesn't even have a single ability that can do more than half of what a Scoundrel/Operative or Gunslinger/Sniper nuke can do. Hell they don't even have a single ability that can match a Guardian/Juggernaut nuke, or a Sentinel/Marauder nuke, or a Commando/Mercenary nuke. Vanguard/Powertech might be the only class in the game that doesn't have a more powerful nuke/burst than Sage/Sorcerer does. But don't let facts and reality get in the way of another thread based on "untruths". I'd call it what it is but the Bioware mods are incapable of discernment.

Sever Force is probably the single best PvP ability Sage has. Although I'm perfectly happy with it continuing to be massively underrated.

Actually you can have six plus another 8 on your first day just from quests. But who's counting.

On my server there are currently twice as many 50s in warzones as there are 1-49. More like "tomorrow, the 1-49 get triple queue times".

No, he's not. The dude below has 8 medals, the list has 13. Guess what that means? It's not a Sage, it's a Shadow. OP can't even get the class he's complaining about correct? Herp derp.

They already did in update 1.1, just waiting for it to hit live now.

No it's not a DoT.

Certain builds should never lose to an Operative with all other things being equal. A 31 point Madness/Balance build has far more tools to deal with them than a 31 point Seer/Corruption. I've watched the QQ for going on 7 months now. I give credit to Bioware that so far despite massive amounts of whining since at least August they haven't given in to the inaccurate, baseless and often flat out dishonest nonsense spewed on their forums. Sorcerer was not OP in August when it was the only class with working trees, it was not OP in October when all the other classes got (mostly) working trees and it's not OP now. In fact, I still don't believe any class is OP, some need minor tweaks.

Introducing changes that make it difficult or impossible to use major features in a paid service is a healthy move right? This is why we were quite happy to have a queue on Jung Ma the first couple weeks. Right now, well past prime time, there's 43 level 50s in warzones and unknown more in queues just on the Republic side. Good for us, but I don't know what those of you on smaller servers are going to do.

You went 2/2 Psychic Absorption and 1/2 Assertion. /thread Seriously though it's just a 3/7/31 build with some points taken out of decent talents and put into abysmal talents.