Wow....no comment.

5/5/31 is tolerable pvp and nice in PVE:

I disagree wih a lot of your post, I play deception periodically, here is a vid: We have control, burst and decent sustained: between spike, Low slash, slow, electrocute and overload you have plenty. A few notes for both PVE and PVP: Don't maul without the proc, it's a waste of a lot of force, VS instead. Rotate Fade and Force Cloak to maximize force regen, in a 7 min fight you should use FC and fade 3 times. Also when you need force boost to finish someone of - use cloak then spike. VS is a good stealth opener and filler. Deception has one major downside, and it's not the damage. It's the combination of no utility and very poor survivabilitty / mobility. My wish list would be 1 min CD of Force Cloak that actually gets you out of combat and doesn't break on dots - this would also buff regen via dark embrace, free cost of maul under duplicity proc and force speed removing roots. Now if we also got some group utility like armor pen debuff on targets on top of it, life would be good.

Heck, I'd use it more often then the team vote.

Follow healers around and be an annoyance to enemy team and soak the damage while having completely neutered damage output, all while surviving 1-3 seconds longer then the same Sin tank in dps gear that is top 3 damage evey game.

Many will argue, but IMHO any Sin tank in pure tank gear is selling himself short. You would find that you aren't sacrificing much in terms of survivability & utility by going full DPS gear optimized for Power / Surge, in fact you'll actually start contributing to damage done in games and not just being 1/2 a wasted spot.

Focus, if the rest of your gear is Stalkers. Generator if the ret of your gear is Survivors - though then I would ask why did you bother.

I want to get something out way before I answered your question, did you spec darkness to dps or to actually tank? If your answer is to dps, then you're not a tank, just a Darkness specced dps, in which case you should prioritize Power / Surge on mods and enhancements (lower will, higher power ones) and augment for Will - 18wp/12 end. In the end you want to end up with 1100+ exp, 550+ bonus damage, 75% Crit multiplier and 20-25% Crit. If you specced darkness to tank, then stack expertise and endurance followed by defense and absorb. Aug for Absorb or Def + power.

My ideas on helping deception: 1. Add Force Speed removing snares into deception tree, roll it into blackout, also make it so that you're immune to new slows / roots for the duration of force speed. 2. Further lower CD of Force Cloak in Dec Tree, should end up 1 min CD, still longer then Marauders. Also fix his to actually get you out of combat evey time, even with dots on.you. Having to use force shroud before vanish and still have it fail to get you out of combat is not cool. 3. Add a skill to proc a free free maul when using surging charge, 50% is still low. That would make me play Dec again, that being out of the way, here's Dec video:

End / WP or End / Pow

How about instead Force Speed and Force cloak make you immune to slow / root for the duration ( yes, after you use it and for the whole time active ) and Force Cloak not break on dots and actually take you out of combat instead.

Us inquisitors have been tanking the nerf bat for two patches in a row, time to pass the baton to warriors and BHs IMO.

I am going to pretend I didn't see your idiotic comment and give you a chance to back out.

I was 8 seconds of my life back.

21/20 makes Melee mad, but otherwise yeah, Inquisitors are getting hated on in general, first Sorcs, now Assassins in 1.3, and the scariest thing is that most of the changes make no sense. Marauders, pyros etc continue to run amock while Inquisitirs are tanking the nerf bat for two patches in a row.

Open your Melee tab, keep changing mods / enhs until you reach: 600 bonus damage 78% surge 20% Crit Profit.

TL;DR version: 1. Taunt 2. Debuff 3. Afk on a node, call for help as needed 4. Repeat steps one through three and profit

If you're not darkness with 600 bonus damage, 78% surge and over 20k HP in PVP - you're doing it wrong. It's not up for discussion, it's how it is.

Force Cloak is near unusable as is, you pretty much have to use it with force shroud and still most of the time it won't get you out of combat. For a 3 min base CD it really sucks. I'll take Marauders camo - thanks. 45 sec CD, 50% damage reduction, doesn't break on any damage - all on a non stealth class. Well played Bioware. Make it a shorter CD and to actually drop combat and NOT break on dots for at least 5 seconds or shove it.

Wha...? I am dark ess myself and I stomp deception, but in a team and with heals it's got some cannon.

He's wrong, shadows are still better then Sorcs for rateds, which isn't saying much - but still.

Here's geared Assassin pvp gameplay. There's a link to same person playing tank spec:

They don't go that spec to do zomg damage, they do it to live long enough to do damage period and since tank stats - shielding - is pretty bad - hence dps gear.

Wow, the guy above me pretty much nailed it. Current Sorc healing strat is to run, hide, kite, cast a few heals, die and repeat.

Dps sages ...and I have two..Sorc and Sage are very very bad right now, they are cannon fodder for just about everyone. You have to jump through numerous hoops just to stay alive, where others just faceroll - you have to run, hide, kite, pot. Your best burst is not enough to put a dent into anyone worth killing, your defensive CD's are non-existent, most classes have a way to further reduce or negate your already laughable damage, for ever slow and root you have Melee classes have three ways to negate it and be right up your arse. Bubble is pathetic and can barely withhold and couple of auto-attacks from most dps, with even the best of gear Sage / Sorc is the "feel good about myself" target for the Melee since its the class they get largest crits on. Is it playable - yeah, you could even do quite a bit of damage - you just got to figure out how to stay invisible. Maybe put together a set that matches one of each warzones and try to blend in.