unseenmaji Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 (edited) EA forced the release of Hellgate London early same thing people put up with it for few months waiting on a big patch which was meant to fix everything, when the patch wasn’t all it was cracked up to be people left anyway eventually after only 10months the servers got shut-down and company disbanded that made it. EA has forced starwars the old-republic out early unfinished just like Hellgate London was even the employees have said in blogs that they only care about the money and don’t even treat their employees well, they predicted it would flop that people would join because it Starwars but without that name backing it is nothing. I feel that this game is heading the direction other mmos went and if the 1.2 is a disappointment many people will unsubscribe. The problem is EA it has ruined so many companies even lead to many being shut-down they push for releases to get money and dont see the end goal, I feel that this game needed 6months more development time even a year and it would been a greater success. Personally because of EA involvement I hope it does flop they need to understand customers are not numbers and treating us as such only results in us not supporting them, Bioware made a mistake getting associated to EA, which is one most disliked companies in gaming and they have damaged the reputation of Bioware as they have done before with other companys. I pray this 1.2 is a miracle and revives the game but I feel it wont be and will let down alot of us we will probably play a little then get bored again. The game is too instanced based and isnt open world that is one main reasons it is dieing. If they shutdown the threads which are negative then that is sign of it decline for they are filtering out anything which is said to be bad about the game which is wrong and is censorship. Edited April 4, 2012 by unseenmaji Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Criosdh Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 (edited) Well I can't speak for Hellgate Londone but EA certainly botched the Warhammer launch and I think it was painfully obvious they forced that game out way to early. When EA bought out Mythic the DAoC was very worried and EA already had a reputation for killing game developers then. Also in Warhammer was alot of drama about employees and ex-employees and what not. So I'd say there's definitely a trend. Edited April 4, 2012 by Criosdh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unseenmaji Posted April 4, 2012 Author Share Posted April 4, 2012 Well I can't speak for Hellgate Londone but EA certainly botched the Warhammer launch and I think it was painfully obvious they forced that game out way to early. When EA bought out Mythic the DAoC was very worried and EA already had a reputation for killing game developers then. Also in Warhammer was alot of drama about employees and ex-employees and what not. So I'd say there's definitely a trend. I agree I think companys need to boycotte EA they seem to ruin things and seek aid from others, if you think about it this is truly EA fault, they probably even forced the instance based style cause it quicker to do than open world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenceriker Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Star Wars won't suffer the same fate, much like a runaway it will be made an example of and live on as the big high school quarterback who could have gone pro but never could be bothered to really try. Fanboys will sing SWTOR's praises for a while but after 1.2 fixes little and creates more problems than it solves they will look to 1.3. And much like 1.2, 1.3 does the same and by then the perpetual cycle will begin and little by little people will cease to care an walk away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cormey Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 ...wait, are you trying to say that everything in TOR is broken and 1.2 is a patch meant to fix everything? And here was me thinking TOR was doing fine minus a few bugs and 1.2 was simply going to add some tweaks, a bit of content and legacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unseenmaji Posted April 4, 2012 Author Share Posted April 4, 2012 Btw do you know if EA was involved with Dragon Age 2, no.1 was great but the second one was terriable, Bioware has made some great games in past, Bauldersgate being one the older and for it time extremely good, Dragon age more newer and great as well plus the mass effect series, I think EA has had impact on their recent games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tormentist Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Doom! DOOOOOOOOOM!! Short answer: no Long answer: too much time and money and franchise put into this game for it to fall off. If anything they will fire the dev team and hire more to attempt to change things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antipathize Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 (edited) I don't know about swtor, but this thread is going to share the same fate as other terrible threads. Edited April 4, 2012 by Antipathize Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unseenmaji Posted April 4, 2012 Author Share Posted April 4, 2012 ...wait, are you trying to say that everything in TOR is broken and 1.2 is a patch meant to fix everything? And here was me thinking TOR was doing fine minus a few bugs and 1.2 was simply going to add some tweaks, a bit of content and legacy. No we are saying that because of EA rushing them it is not the game it could have been if they had achieved open world game that allowed for proper space battles and traveling to worlds even and everything wasnt instanced as well and it had more content and wasnt totally focused on single player then it could been a mmo to rival WOW as it stands now it not even close. We are saying EA ruins companys and it has happened time and time again im suprised they not be sued for destroying these companys reputations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unseenmaji Posted April 4, 2012 Author Share Posted April 4, 2012 I don't know about swtor, but this thread is going to share the same fate as other terrible threads. This thread is a thread of truth and if they censor it just proves the point that they are afraid of anything negative said, now I am saying that I feel true reason for the troubles bioaware has had in recent games is EA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galbatorrix Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 (edited) I'm still having tons of fun with this game. *shrugs* I seriously don't get why people get so up in arms and abusive over a game they don't enjoy. If you dislike it, want it to fail, hate Bioware/EA, think there's no hope in the future, etc.... why not just walk away? Cancel your account and go do something else? Why do you feel the need to come to the forums and doom and gloom? Edited April 4, 2012 by Galbatorrix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagessel Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Posting in a thread that outright slanders BioWare employees while another civil thread asking for the doom n gloom to take it home got locked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tormentist Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 I'm still having tons of fun with this game. *shrugs* I seriously don't get why people get so up in arms and abusive over a game they don't enjoy. If you dislike it, want it to fail, hate Bioware/EA, think there's no hope in the future, etc.... why not just walk away? Cancel you account and go do something else? Why do you feel the need to come to the forums and doom and gloom? Because doom! DOOOOOOOM!!! That's just fun to say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tautha Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 First and foremost, I absolutely love the game. However, it is ofter very hard to ignore the many flaws that really should have been picked up and fixed before launch - to say nothing of the horrendous performance problems many players experience. SWtoR is at a crucial point just now I think and if they don't start getting it right soon, people will walk away... and there are some very interesting distractions being released soon to turn their attention to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galbatorrix Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Because doom! DOOOOOOOM!!! That's just fun to say http://www.deviantart.com/download/185657198/invader_zim__gir__s_doom_song_by_alexbree-d32ja0e.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unseenmaji Posted April 4, 2012 Author Share Posted April 4, 2012 Posting in a thread that outright slanders BioWare employees while another civil thread asking for the doom n gloom to take it home got locked. Is bioware EA no seems you cant read, we clearly have said that EA has caused many companys to fall and that they have now damaged bioware. Seems you didnt notice we didnt say Bioware employees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galbatorrix Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Is bioware EA no seems you cant read, we clearly have said that EA has caused many companys to fall and that they have now damaged bioware. Seems you didnt notice we didnt say Bioware employees. Why not just quit and leave? What do you hope to accomplish by posting these type thread on the board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goretzu Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Doom! DOOOOOOOOOM!! Short answer: no Long answer: too much time and money and franchise put into this game for it to fall off. If anything they will fire the dev team and hire more to attempt to change things. I dunno they cut Devs to the bone and then mothballed Warhammer Online pretty quickly, and that had a lot spent on it in development (not as much as SWTOR admittedly). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKMaster Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Star Wars won't suffer the same fate, much like a runaway it will be made an example of and live on as the big high school quarterback who could have gone pro but never could be bothered to really try. Fanboys will sing SWTOR's praises for a while but after 1.2 fixes little and creates more problems than it solves they will look to 1.3. And much like 1.2, 1.3 does the same and by then the perpetual cycle will begin and little by little people will cease to care an walk away. Kinda like every MMO ever made...also, here you are playing such a fail game, makes one question your mental state and IQ tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagessel Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Is bioware EA no seems you cant read, we clearly have said that EA has caused many companys to fall and that they have now damaged bioware. Seems you didnt notice we didnt say Bioware employees. Slander = slander And who are "we?". And what is "we's" agenda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unseenmaji Posted April 4, 2012 Author Share Posted April 4, 2012 First and foremost, I absolutely love the game. However, it is ofter very hard to ignore the many flaws that really should have been picked up and fixed before launch - to say nothing of the horrendous performance problems many players experience. SWtoR is at a crucial point just now I think and if they don't start getting it right soon, people will walk away... and there are some very interesting distractions being released soon to turn their attention to. Problem is alot people are yes men, they dont understand that they shouldnt accept lower standards it only makes worser games, EA I feel is destroying gaming industry think of all the games which have done bad with name EA involved. You know if they keep stoping people from speaking their views those people will just leave and the population will decline it when people arnt pointing out problems that they given up on them. It sad that yes men and fanboys cant see it the ones whom have higher standards make the gaming industry greater because we dont like being treated as numbers like EA does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unseenmaji Posted April 4, 2012 Author Share Posted April 4, 2012 (edited) Slander = slander And who are "we?". And what is "we's" agenda seems to me your only one acting in anger and malipulation, we meant those whom pointed out about EA failures, are you one those conspiracy people? do you think it time that the real problem be discussed and also other companys realise why they are being harmed? Edited April 4, 2012 by unseenmaji Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDraconis Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 This thread is a thread of truth and if they censor it just proves the point that they are afraid of anything negative said, now I am saying that I feel true reason for the troubles bioaware has had in recent games is EA. Unfortunately, this thread includes mostly your opinion that from your perspective is truth. Big difference, you have some points but they're from your singular viewpoint. others may agree, others may not. Only time really will tell ... btw your comparison to WoW is also, again from perspective. Myself and my guild that came here are happy with this game and how it's evolving thus far... but then again this is our perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagessel Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 (edited) seems to me your only one acting in anger and malipulation, we meant those whom pointed out about EA failtures, are you one those conspiracy people? Still won't answer who the group you represent is. And my SO insists I'm a terrible "malipulator." Edit: Civil thread asking for more civil discussion locked before reaching page 3. Thread that opens up with slander will probably be at 4 by the time this edit goes in. "who watches the watchers?" Edited April 4, 2012 by Vagessel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galbatorrix Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Problem is alot people are yes men, they dont understand that they shouldnt accept lower standards it only makes worser games, EA I feel is destroying gaming industry think of all the games which have done bad with name EA involved. You know if they keep stoping people from speaking their views those people will just leave and the population will decline it when people arnt pointing out problems that they given up on them. It sad that yes men and fanboys cant see it the ones whom have higher standards make the gaming industry greater because we dont like being treated as numbers like EA does. They're destroying the gaming industry, yet you gave your money for one of their games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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