PhilCanuck Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 It's whatever gets people to where they need to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourne Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Problem is for imperials left is east and right is west. This is confusing as most people don't look at maps upside down so they are used to orienting left with west and right with east. The fact that the Imp map faces south is confusing. The main map is not "flipped"....it is not "backwards" or facing south. No matter what side you are on...view the main map and all should be clear. It's like trying to remember 1...2...it shouldn't be difficult at all- not even with a concussion, 3 days of missed sleep, hypothermia and being severely dehydrated while suffering from a heart attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongrul Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 there is both grass and snow on the east side and west side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalFinality Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 (edited) To Republic: Left is left on the map and from the spawn Right is right on the map and from the spawn Suck it, Imps. Edited March 19, 2012 by EternalFinality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaste Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 (edited) Never had much of an issue explaining that left and right are as veiwed from your spawn to the objectives <_<; The only time that changes is offense/defense on voidstar, and even then it's as simple as remembering which direction you faced when you started. Guess it depends on how derpy the team in general is though, i know we get seated with some real 'champions' if you know what i mean x.x.... /shrug Edited March 19, 2012 by Amaste Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khanic Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I'd have to agree with the OP on this one. I don't know how many times I'll see Incoming Left or Inc Right and I'll head there and no one is there. Now I find it more of a problem for Alderaan mainly because you really can't see each side, by that I mean I can't sit at say west turret and see the right to see what their situation is ( I blame people not using Ops chat for this but that is a separate issue.) Were as in Voidstar you can see from your gate roughly where the majority of people are congregating at and adjust accordingly. You'll still get the "Plant on left door" and run what you think is left and the only person there is your sniper just chillin, guarding the door. It's West/East people, use that dang map at the bottom for directions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undorett Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Left / Right (from spawn point) is used almost exclusively in 50s warzones on imperial side of The Ebon Hawk server. This weekend a few of us ran low level matches with alts and the new people in these use Left / Right as well, only about 10% of the time they are refering to the minimap. I was put on ignore by one player for telling him that Left / Right are from spawn, and East / West are map directions. Personally I prefer Left/Right from spawn so that I don't need to reference my map, but if we are referencing the map it needs to be East / West. Both should be able to be used interchangeably with confidence that everyone knows what is being communicated to the Ops group. IMO the real problem isn't the use of grass / snow, east / west, or left / right, its with newer people or those who have not been in warzones much not knowing what the frame of reference with left and right is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grubfist Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Every Alderaan control point has a name. Hover over it on the map and it'll tell you. Middle is the Command Center, and one of the sides is the Generator. I forget the last one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalFinality Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Every Alderaan control point has a name. Hover over it on the map and it'll tell you. Middle is the Command Center, and one of the sides is the Generator. I forget the last one. Do you see the problem here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanChart Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 (edited) I completely agree, use West/East (and North/South when appropriate), you will win more. There's no more debate on this than there is on whether toilet paper rolls should be installed overhand or underhand. The minor satisfaction you might get out of using the less effective direction system that you learned during your first WZ isn't a good reason to keep doing it. Edited March 19, 2012 by DanChart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grubfist Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Do you see the problem here? That I'm not telling everyone this? In-game pop-ups for "The Empire has captured the Command Center controls!" would help quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans_Brix Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 In Voidstar, I've gotten to the point of yelling, "Other side!!!" This tends to get everyone's attention, and the guy all by himself and seeing 4 reds come his way isn't going to peek at the other side, while the 5 guys with their thumbs up their butt might actually look at the other door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalFinality Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 That I'm not telling everyone this? In-game pop-ups for "The Empire has captured the Command Center controls!" would help quite a bit. Whooooooosh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burtlebe Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I was in a Aldaraan a few weeks ago and the "ops leader" decided it was time to educate folks on the whole east west thing. Half way through getting our butts destroyed someone told him to shut the heck up and started calling it out by left right. We won after that. Personally I am tri-directional and able to adapt on the move to whatever is called out but most folks if you say east or west they have to open map and figure out east west in case the map has changed and sometimes that lil bit of time taken to do that means the world in controlling a point. It always just seems to work better since "most" folks will base left right on where they land, either in aldaraan or void star. Some folks are not able to do this. This subject pops up every so often and just not sure why people want to educate folks when its currently working fine, if you are having issues with left right not working your either in a group of folks who prolly dont know up or down either or your in a group of east west folks who dont understand left right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arcadeboredom Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I find it much easier to think of directions from spawn point. so left means left from spawn. right means right from spawn. Its easier than east/west I find. Because west on map might mean I need to go right from the spawn point... so I find simple left and right from spawn easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skotish Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 To Republic: Left is left on the map and from the spawn Right is right on the map and from the spawn Suck it, Imps. This man gets it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khoraji Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 umm. its obvious no matter what you say. East/west works. Left/Right (out of the gate OBVIOUSLY) works just as well. everyone should know what your talking about by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozith Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 even my premade, in voice chat, refuse to use east/west....i find it incredibly annoying as "left" and "right" change depending on the direction you're looking at. East and West are something you learn as children, is it really that hard to use them? I don't understand =( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalFinality Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 (edited) even my premade, in voice chat, refuse to use east/west....i find it incredibly annoying as "left" and "right" change depending on the direction you're looking at. East and West are something you learn as children, is it really that hard to use them? I don't understand =( It's always FROM THE SPAWN. Left from the spawn Right from the spawn In Voidstar on defense, you exit the spawn room and turn left or right. In Alderaan on Imperial side, you take the left or right speeder, or you go left or right after landing from the middle speeder. This is not a difficult concept. Even children know their left from their right. Edited March 19, 2012 by EternalFinality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthOvertone Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Use whatever you want, who cares. It remains Left/Right for me. Eff East/West. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YanksfanJP Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 (edited) It's amazing to me that you people still don't understand the reasons why east/west is better. It's better because you never know who the person calling out the inc is and whether or not they're a mouthbreather. Because of that, there's no way to be certain if they're calling left/right based on the same point of reference as you all understand it. Also, you call east/west because if you're in the middle and got spun around a few times while fighting, maybe you can't immediately figure out which direction is your spawn point, since both look exactly the same. Since the middle turret in Alderaan is enclosed, you can't tell where grass/snow is, either. The best and fastest way to tell is to hear "EAST," look at the minimap, spin your character around so he's facing to the east on the minimap, and then run that way. No point of reference necessary. This is going to be awesome when they put in the same-faction Alderaan Civil War that they hinted at. I can't wait to see half the Imperial teams running the wrong direction because they're used to everything being backwards since they don't know their directions. Edited March 19, 2012 by YanksfanJP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grubfist Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Whooooooosh Perhaps you could explain. I like learning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozith Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 It's always FROM THE SPAWN. Left from the spawn Right from the spawn In Voidstar on defense, you exit the spawn room and turn left or right. In Alderaan on Imperial side, you take the left or right speeder, or you go left or right after landing from the middle speeder. This is not a difficult concept. Even children know their left from their right. In voidstar, you do 2 rounds, one starting from the north of the first room, one from the south. So by your definition, for half the match east is left, the other half west is left.....yay for using conflicting location definitions! As an imp, in civil war, left on the minimap is what most ******* call right, and right on the minimap is called left? how dumb....how very very dumb Learn the compass and start using non-conflicting terms for locations so as to AVOID CONFUSION! Not for your own benefit, but for your team. This game takes communication and coordination, so it's only intelligent to be as clear and concise as possible when asking for something. Seeing as how many people get annoyed or confused about the ambiguous nature of left and right, it's good TEAM PLAY to use BETTER terms. Stop being selfish by trying to justify being lazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daxun Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 AMEN! It's EAST and freaking WEST. Look at your map and learn your directions people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalmeseReb Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 republic always uses left/right because its the same on the map and in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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