Shogunjedi Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Time to spec Advanced Prototype . I always wanted to spec AP for PVP but pyro was too amazing to pass up. Now i have my chance , and hopefully QQers will pick the next target and it wont be my class. I will continue to destroy idiots in PVP playing my next class , hopefully someday they will realised that its not the class , its them. Bioware listening to qq, fixing stuff that aint broken and screwing up more and more with each patch , i will be playing till GW2 or even Tera wont come out , but when they do , i am going and not coming back , ive lost my faith in you . Vanguard Saga of Heroes In Space . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exphryl Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 (edited) Time to spec Advanced Prototype . I always wanted to spec AP for PVP but pyro was too amazing to pass up. Now i have my chance , and hopefully QQers will pick the next target and it wont be my class. I will continue to destroy idiots in PVP playing my next class , hopefully someday they will realised that its not the class , its them. Bioware listening to qq, fixing stuff that aint broken and screwing up more and more with each patch , i will be playing till GW2 or even Tera wont come out , but when they do , i am going and not coming back , ive lost my faith in you . Vanguard Saga of Heroes In Space . A) You are clearly terrible at reading patch notes B) Less RNG is not a bad thing, especially with increased % on Flame Burst/Rocket Punch (We've all had a full 15 sec duration without railshot proc once) C) Quell not costing heat makes it easier to take out casters. D) AP is still terrible. Edited March 17, 2012 by exphryl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halofax Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 They are buffing pyrotech. Guaranteed burst every 6 seconds > maybe burst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fdzzaigl Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Too much drama from the OP. The only real nerf is to our survivability (which was already lacking). As all assault / pyro users are now forced into plasma cell. This also effectively kills hybrid specs like 21/2/18. For the rest, our DPS will stay more or less the same, there will be less situations where you got really bad luck and could do jack ****, and less situations where you were blowing up people in seconds because you got 6 procs in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halofax Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 2/6/33 was the only spec worth using. Still is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanPoe Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Pyro Powertech was significantly buffed. Instead of getting lucky procs and killing someone in 8 seconds and sometimes getting zero procs and killing them in ~14 seconds, you will now kill everyone in 10 seconds all of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryotknife Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 pyro will actually be fine. yes we cant get back to back railshot procs anymore, but nor will we run into the situation as often where we get no procs for 15 seconds and we do crap for damage and are overheating for the next 10-20 seconds and are stuck with basic attack during that timeframe. the only RIP is carolina parakeet, that spec got destroyed by 1.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryotknife Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Pyro Powertech was significantly buffed. Instead of getting lucky procs and killing someone in 8 seconds and sometimes getting zero procs and killing them in ~14 seconds, you will now kill everyone in 10 seconds all of the time. ..... how are you going to kill someone in 14 seconds without railshot procs? first of all, we will be using an attack that hits for about half as much as railshot, AND we will be using more resources. and no, pyro was not buff nor nerfed. we were redesigned. significantly less burst, better sustained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogunjedi Posted March 17, 2012 Author Share Posted March 17, 2012 It will not proc every 6 secs It has increased chance to proc every 6 secs. What was so bad About AP? Railshot every 15 sec. Now with pyro its gonna be ( with best proc rate and gcd ) 2 Railshots every 15 sec. Instead of that extra railshot u can now use last ability in AP tree ( forgot the name) Its not as powerful but its elemental damage. Rail shot is guaranteed crit as well as rocket punch. AP looks almost on par after the nerf . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogunjedi Posted March 17, 2012 Author Share Posted March 17, 2012 Prototype Particle Accelerator now requires Combustible Gas Cylinder to trigger. The chance to trigger this effect has been increased significantly but cannot trigger more than once every 6 seconds. Every 6 sec u spam Flameburst to proc railshot , with GCD its 7.5 sec . And this is not guaranteed , it has higher chance of procing. Charged Gauntlets now triggers from damage dealt such that the bleed caused by Retractable Blade can trigger the buff. It now has a visual effect. Kolto Vents has been replaced by Hamstring, which causes Retractable Blade to slow the target by 30% for 6 seconds. While AP getting a boost , Charged Gauntlets proc and useless kolto vents are being replaced with a much needed snare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exphryl Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 (edited) ..... how are you going to kill someone in 14 seconds without railshot procs? first of all, we will be using an attack that hits for about half as much as railshot, AND we will be using more resources. . They aren't nerfing the damage of the abilities (least from the patch notes) So you'll still get 5k Rail shots, 3k+ Rocket Punches, 5k+ TDs, 2k+ Flame Bursts, and a dot that can crit for 1k at times. And again, with casters, our interrupt being free means more heat to kill them with. Also, you can NOT compare rail shot damage from Pyro with AP. AP Lacks the crit bonus damage talents which STILL make it subpar to Pyro. We will be more then fine still in PvP. Edited March 17, 2012 by exphryl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwacko Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 um, you read it wrong like the others said. this spec will get MUCH better. you'll be just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogunjedi Posted March 17, 2012 Author Share Posted March 17, 2012 They aren't nerfing the damage of the abilities (least from the patch notes) So you'll still get 5k Rail shots, 3k+ Rocket Punches, 5k+ TDs, 2k+ Flame Bursts, and a dot that can crit for 1k at times. And again, with casters, our interrupt being free means more heat to kill them with. Also, you can NOT compare rail shot damage from Pyro with AP. AP Lacks the crit bonus damage talents which STILL make it subpar to Pyro. We will be more then fine still in PvP. There is no such thing as 5k Rail Shots and 5+K Td's . To do that u need to have full BM set with adrenals and trinket . This is an exception. Didnt see anything about Quell costing no heat must have overlooked. Quell is not that important anyway . AP lacks bonus damage for RS, but u will get Flameburst bonus damage its another ability we use all the time. All in all AP will not rival Pyro u right about that, but playing Pyro after they spit on a Rail shot proc , nah i go AP or level my sniper/jugg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogunjedi Posted March 17, 2012 Author Share Posted March 17, 2012 um, you read it wrong like the others said. this spec will get MUCH better. you'll be just fine. Rofl , u dont know what you talking about do you? Thread for praisng Swtor for great patches is that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exphryl Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 There is no such thing as 5k Rail Shots and 5+K Td's . To do that u need to have full BM set with adrenals and trinket . This is an exception. Didnt see anything about Quell costing no heat must have overlooked. Quell is not that important anyway . AP lacks bonus damage for RS, but u will get Flameburst bonus damage its another ability we use all the time. All in all AP will not rival Pyro u right about that, but playing Pyro after they spit on a Rail shot proc , nah i go AP or level my sniper/jugg. I get the feeling any amount of education on a Pyro will not sink through your head at all... An interrupt not important? I don't even..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogunjedi Posted March 17, 2012 Author Share Posted March 17, 2012 No its not important . *** u doing all the time , interrupting healers? They dont care. U can burst them down , stun , damage, they cast , aoe mezz , they dead. Good healers will laugh at Quell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogunjedi Posted March 17, 2012 Author Share Posted March 17, 2012 U inrerrupt thei **** they bubble , force speed and run to their team members screaming for help. If u gonna interrupt DOA i would suggest your move out of the way , its faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monterone Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Didnt see anything about Quell costing no heat must have overlooked. Quell is not that important anyway . I think it can now be said with confidence that you are trolling and/or don't know how to play your class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogunjedi Posted March 17, 2012 Author Share Posted March 17, 2012 I picked most underplayed class , when i got to my 40ties , i noticed others rolling PTs , i showed them how great this class is . Now its becoming Fotm and they nerfing it . Bad luck i have. Really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogunjedi Posted March 17, 2012 Author Share Posted March 17, 2012 I think it can now be said with confidence that you are trolling and/or don't know how to play your class. Sigh , this thread is becoming a Praise thread for Quell. Please make your own thread and praise quell there , u problably havent met any good healers that can spit on a something with 10 m range , 4 sec duration and 8 second cd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therouterninja Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 (edited) I picked most underplayed class , when i got to my 40ties , i noticed others rolling PTs , i showed them how great this class is . Now its becoming Fotm and they nerfing it . Bad luck i have. Really. That would be the scoundrel, who's getting hit way harder than your class in 1.2 Bounty hunters/Sorcs are one of the most played advanced classes in the game. http://taugrim.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/swtor-class-distribution.png Edited March 17, 2012 by therouterninja Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewgal Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 It was a RNG luck based class build anyway. Better that it gets put onto a more skilful basis now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exphryl Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 (edited) That would be the scoundrel, who's getting hit way harder than your class in 1.2 Bounty hunters/Sorcs are one of the most played advanced classes in the game. http://taugrim.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/swtor-class-distribution.png Obviously off topic. But an easier to read image was create from that here: http://dulfy.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/classdistribution6.jpg Which as a whole, PT/VG is less played then Scoundrel/Operative Only by a mere fraction but still Edited March 17, 2012 by exphryl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheronFett Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Topic creators in the PvP forum have to be the most uninformed cross-section of gamers in the universe. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogunjedi Posted March 17, 2012 Author Share Posted March 17, 2012 That would be the scoundrel, who's getting hit way harder than your class in 1.2 Bounty hunters/Sorcs are one of the most played advanced classes in the game. http://taugrim.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/swtor-class-distribution.png Yes lots and lots of mercenaries. Pt are rare. The only class i see even less then mine is my republican mirror . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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