Exen_Dar Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 (edited) Having just seen one in the 1.2 video, i have to say.........really, bioware? I thought you guys were so much more into keeping the game "themed" than that. Dont get me wrong, EVERYthing else in 1.2 is brilliant. But allowing Sith pureblood jedis to run around republic side is one MAJOR way to ruin immersion. For instance - why did you bother stopping us from allowing BHers to wear Republic Commando armor traded via the Nar Shaddaa Trade Market if you're goint to allow Sith Purebloods as Jedi. Chiss as Smugglers? That aint a stretch of the imagination. Mirilukan Sith obviously isnt. But honest........ Pureblood Jedi? There are SO many people on the non-official forums right now wondering if this marks a new turning point in your strategy regarding theming of the game. An when there's 1000s of them running about? There's a reason they didnt allow orcs in WoW alliance side, or to play an elf in monster play in LotRO. One off characters are usually consigned to Quest characters, and dont make a population. In Star Wars Galaxies, SoE just didnt care. And what did we have? 1000s of jedi running amok in the A New Hope era of SW. It was yet another nail in that game's coffin, and i love SWTOR i just dont want to see you guys go down the same route. Thankyou for everything else in 1.2 though. Edited March 5, 2012 by Exen_Dar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drduncan Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Works great if someone wants to roleplay a redeemed sith warrior for example... I wouldn't, but I'm just pointing it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapWinterz Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Because it is impossible to believe that out of all the sith Purebloods, thousands, millions, billions or how ever many there have been, that 1 would disagree in the ways of the Sith, rather not serve the Sith and prefer to ally themselves with the Jedi teachings?" People need to learn to be less narrow sighted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exen_Dar Posted March 5, 2012 Author Share Posted March 5, 2012 (edited) An when there's 1000s of them running about? There's a reason they didnt allow orcs in WoW alliance side, or to play an elf in monster play in LotRO. One off characters are usually consigned to Quest characters, and dont make a population. Edited March 5, 2012 by Exen_Dar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfninjajedi Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Because it is impossible to believe that out of all the sith Purebloods, thousands, millions, billions or how ever many there have been, that 1 would disagree in the ways of the Sith, rather not serve the Sith and prefer to ally themselves with the Jedi teachings?" People need to learn to be less narrow sighted ^This, thats like saying all Nazis in WW 2 were evil and just plain bad..when in truth that wasn't the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andryah Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Works great if someone wants to roleplay a redeemed sith warrior for example... I wouldn't, but I'm just pointing it out. I agree. I think the OP fails to acknowledge that the time track for this game, and the resulting lore elements, is different then the original Lucas universe (which SWG was based on). OP, in this time line, Sith fall from trees like ripe oranges. They are not scarce, rare, nor numbly mindwashed to be pro-imperial. So it's natrual for some to fall on the Republic side of the orchard. And Jedi breed like rabbits in the spring time too. You need to adjust your lore perception to thousands of years before SW-A New Hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaverickXIV Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Play a Jedi Knight and you'll see at least two Republic Sith force users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exen_Dar Posted March 5, 2012 Author Share Posted March 5, 2012 Play a Jedi Knight and you'll see at least two Republic Sith force users. Again, read replies before commenting... An when there's 1000s of them running about? There's a reason they didnt allow orcs in WoW alliance side, or to play an elf in monster play in LotRO. One off characters are usually consigned to Quest characters, and dont make a population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDTC Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Because it is impossible to believe that out of all the sith Purebloods, thousands, millions, billions or how ever many there have been, that 1 would disagree in the ways of the Sith, rather not serve the Sith and prefer to ally themselves with the Jedi teachings?" People need to learn to be less narrow sighted one would be okay. hundreds would be boring and contrived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drduncan Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Also... smugglers and scoundrels and agents ... they have every lore reason to be every race anyways. A chiss smuggler doesn't seem like a stretch at all to me really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roechacca Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Once a Sith always a Sith! Vader tried to be good in the end and look where that got him. His actor was removed by a younger actor and we had to by the DVD's all over again! Oh the humanity... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanorDM Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 hundreds would be boring and contrived. Hundreds would actually be quite logical, when you consider that there's several billion Sith in existence right now, perhaps even trillions. So to have .001% of them work for the Republic is far from a huge stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roda Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Based on the cliff notes information about the Legacy system that IGN posted in their most recent article, race unlocks are based on the player. If you have a Chiss character and you level it to 50th, then Chiss becomes a permanently unlocked race for every class and faction on your account (for that server). Eventually a person could theoretically unlock every since race in the game if they wanted to constantly make new alts and possibly delete characters after they had been used for the unlock slot. Lore aside, it's an interesting concept. These are really just cosmetic changes, which I'm normally all in favor of. Now people can have the Chiss Sith characters that they've been wanting. Or if someone is willing to play on both factions, then they could eventually have a Chiss Smuggler or something like that. From a visual concept, I think that this could have a lot of potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xneco Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 **** it, if WoW can add Pandas... BioWare can have Sith Pureblood Jedi! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotpar Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 (edited) It's ok. Nobody plays Sith pureblood on Empire, why would they start playing pureblood on Republic? Actually, it's not ok. But the likelyhood this will affect anyone at all is really low, considering that I never see any purebloods on my server, all Sith are humans or cyborgs. Edited March 5, 2012 by Grotpar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monoth Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Having just seen one in the 1.2 video, i have to say.........really, bioware? I thought you guys were so much more into keeping the game "themed" than that. Dont get me wrong, EVERYthing else in 1.2 is brilliant. But allowing Sith pureblood jedis to run around republic side is one MAJOR way to ruin immersion. For instance - why did you bother stopping us from allowing BHers to wear Republic Commando armor traded via the Nar Shaddaa Trade Market if you're goint to allow Sith Purebloods as Jedi. Chiss as Smugglers? That aint a stretch of the imagination. Mirilukan Sith obviously isnt. But honest........ Pureblood Jedi? There are SO many people on the non-official forums right now wondering if this marks a new turning point in your strategy regarding theming of the game. An when there's 1000s of them running about? There's a reason they didnt allow orcs in WoW alliance side, or to play an elf in monster play in LotRO. One off characters are usually consigned to Quest characters, and dont make a population. In Star Wars Galaxies, SoE just didnt care. And what did we have? 1000s of jedi running amok in the A New Hope era of SW. It was yet another nail in that game's coffin, and i love SWTOR i just dont want to see you guys go down the same route. Thankyou for everything else in 1.2 though. Yes because we all know that a sith pureblood would never defect to the other side.... (sigh) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapWinterz Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 For all the people saying "It would be fine seeing 1 but not 1000" For starters how many do you see on the imp side? I think i have seen 1 or 2 in the past month. And look at it this, there could be 1000 of the purebloods wanting to defect but are afraid to take the step because they think they are alone, when all of a sudden 1 defects, which inspires 1 or 2 more to, and then they inspire more, etc etc etc. Also how does giving somebody another option of a race ruin your fun? If you don't want to be a Pureblood "Sith" Jedi knight, nobody is holding a gun to your head going "PICK THE BLOODY PUREBLOOD OR ELSE!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abanoth Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 (edited) Oh noez, we're going to have a thousand guys with red/orange skin running around Carrick Station. Edited March 5, 2012 by Abanoth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoLager Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 I thought the republic was supposed to be tolerant of alien species? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caelrie Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 An when there's 1000s of them running about? There's a reason they didnt allow orcs in WoW alliance side, or to play an elf in monster play in LotRO. One off characters are usually consigned to Quest characters, and dont make a population. There aren't even thousands of total players running around on your server. How would there be thousands of sith jedi? Keep it in perspective please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nasirin Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 ^This, thats like saying all Nazis in WW 2 were evil and just plain bad..when in truth that wasn't the case. Of course we need to bring the Nazis into this...and this makes no sense that they would allow Sith Pureblood as Jedi Knights...playing on an RP sever I won't be suprised when I see random Prueblood Sith running around with their melted faces! Gah! No! Anyways...of all of them, this is really the only one I totally disagree with. And let's not bring Nazis into this, hm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makendu Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 (edited) found video loled Edited March 5, 2012 by Makendu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancrizans Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Don't bother OP. You will be assailed with the ridiculous argument that "there will always be some of a race that crosses sides"(and they will all be on fleet at the same time I presume?) or "it's just fluff, let people play how they want!". I am really disappointed that so few in this community give a poop about the integrity of the game, and having faction identity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nippon Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 I dont see the issue at all... Are you saying an Imperial based character can not defect or be raised by the Republic.... I think that would be ridiculous tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanzoV Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 BioWare has it backwards. Those republic players don't want to play a Jedi Sith Pureblood -- they want to wear Sith Warrior/Inquisitor armor. THAT will get more people to roll republic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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