Azesino Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 So sad to see BW has no clue what world pvp is Why do they announce pvp servers when there is clearly no world pvp. u get nothing for killing a player outside of ilum, and now after the 1.5 patch ilum will be DEAD I enjoy world pvp mostly 1v1 fights, and this game has almost none, and after patch it will have NONE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gryhmr Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Ilum has been horribly broken since day one and a constant thorn in the sides of the devs. They can always bring it back with another patch once things are fixed over there. But for now I am glad I dont have to fly there anymore after 1.1.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongrul Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 and now after the 1.5 patch ilum will be DEAD and after patch it will have NONE says who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KorinHyvek Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 I'm pretty sure it's a stopgap measure. Right now, Ilum is already dead, and in need of a serious retool. While we wait for that, we can get our commendations for gear another way. Frankly, Ilum PvP is only really fun on SOME PvP servers (where large numbers of people on both sides are participating) and in pre-arranged events (Not kill trading, just a pre aranged fight for control, that is) If you're lucky enough to be on one of those PvP servers, Good for you! But this update will probably do less than you think, since the people there are there because they enjoy World PvP, regardless of their ability to get commendations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azesino Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 I am never liked ilum, 20 vs 20 ppl fights was a slideshow, but at least u could get a nice 1v1 or 2v3 on the slow hours, what we need is true world pvp Fix ilum, fix world pvp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashogy Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 if anything, this is bioware admitting that ilum is terrible. they will never come out and say that exactly, but this update means you can complete the ilum daily without ever stepping foot on ilum. in theory, ilum is a great idea. in execution, it is utter crap. i would expect bioware to tackle the problem in the near future, but it will not be soon. several months at least, since it basically needs a complete redesign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilifus Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 There is no such thing as world pvp in TOR! Will BioWare build us in future? Maybe not, cause it seems they give up and i will w8 a lil longer before i quit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kunari Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Ilum has been horribly broken since day one and a constant thorn in the sides of the devs. They can always bring it back with another patch once things are fixed over there. But for now I am glad I dont have to fly there anymore after 1.1.5 Well said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphis Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Frankly, Ilum PvP is only really fun on SOME PvP servers (where large numbers of people on both sides are participating) and in pre-arranged events (Not kill trading, just a pre aranged fight for control, that is) Ilum is never "fun". Unless your idea of fun is a < 10fps slide show. BW should be embarassed to have released such a horrible performing zone (I suspect they are). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evuke Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) 1. ilum is not world pvp, it is a 40 vs 40 instanced wz (that is usually 40 vs 7) 2. ilum is terrible anyway so who cares if it dies 3. this game never had viable world pvp Edited February 29, 2012 by Evuke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenthum Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Because running in circles for 4 hours competing for boxes is world PvP? News at 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashogy Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Ilum is never "fun". Unless your idea of fun is a < 10fps slide show. BW should be embarassed to have released such a horrible performing zone (I suspect they are). idk, i had a blast in 10-15fps slideshow this morning. about 30 on each side, made for an awesome back and forth battle. the lag at one point was so bad that the server seemed to stop completely; nobody could move for a solid minute. i thought it was pretty funny tbh. yeah the lag sucks, but its part of MMOs. no point in getting angry about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grubfist Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 How do you kill something MORE? I am confus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashgan Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 No more 0.2-5fps slideshow to complete "kill 30" daily quest? Great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilure Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 World PvP hasn't exsited since daoc and vanilla wow. I'm not one to wax nostalgic about either of those games daoc had its flaws, and well.. wow is wow. However, in the early days of both games the in game rewards for pvp didn't exist. You pvped because it was fun to pit yourself against a more challenging opponent then some scripted AI that re-spawns after 2 mins, or because it was fun to go pick on people you knew you could dominate, or because you enjoyed manipulating the environment to create an unexpected victory (grapple into acid in hutball for example, no matter how many times I do it its still fun). I think tatooine is the place to go for world pvp, I just think its so out of the way, and not very well advertised that no one realizes its there. Group FFA, perfect place for world pvp. Put a Control Point in the middle, allow 4 man groups to give their selves a team name and you've got an ffa king of the hill. World pvp is pvping where ever you want, and making due with whatever you have. It isn't crying that there is no reward or purpose to it. It isn't crying that you are outnumbered, because in the end world pvp will always end as a numbers game, that is just the reality of the system. If you aren't good enough to kill me why would you keep trying? isn't the smart thing to get a friend and kill me 2v1? Then I get a friend , then you get another etc etc , it happens in real life, why would you think you could artificially create a "world pvp" scenario that could also ALWAYS be fair and balanced and in the end rely only on PLAYER SKILL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amien Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 First off, I'm only level 48 and have not been to Ilum yet, so I don't know how it works. LOTRO's Ettenmoors system is pretty cool. You have a "Main" keep in the dead center on an island in a river that separates the freep people's "Side" and the forces of Sauron's "Side". If you control any one the two hard-to-defend keeps, that are far away from everything the central keep will have more NPCs. There are also 2 tower keeps that are closer to each side's home base (That cannot be capped) controls a spawn point closer to the main island keep. So, in theory, you have to effectively control the Tower near their spawn zone so they spawn further away, AND control at least one of the far away keeps for less NPC's if you want a smooth capture. It's a cool system and lots of fun if your on one of the PvP servers that tries to adhere to these unspoken "rules", but is also plagued by its own problems why PvP has been trash for 4 years because of TRUE faction imbalances (The minstrel class can solo any good creep player and easily kill 2 bad players). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicuspid Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 i like world pvp but the 60 on 20 ******** that is ilum is not anything close to world pvp or even pvp i spit on ilum's grave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwrtheyn Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 ilum is dead open pvp,base camp til daily 30 kills is no open pvp with the change you will get a lot more chances to 1 vs 1,2 vs 2 in ilum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobNightfall Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Yes, yes it will in fact...Illum was broken but it needed fixing, not burying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacha Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Until they fix their "Hero Engine" to handle large scale warfare this is the fix mmk. L8r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azesino Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 Which game has the best world pvp right now? I am growing tired of this game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeox Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 GW2 Go to YouTube. Search getbonkd. Yes spelled like that Watch 30 or do vids explaining combat system and WvWvW pvp and skill only 5's Look at feed back on GW2. Then scroll down till u see TOR vids, look at comments TOR was slated as a teribad wow clone from press release beta but all I u either were hoping for swg2. Or were SW fans Yes I troll. Paid for 6 month time cause I was hoping for game to be long and epic. Now just around cause have a few friends who play and like to hang out so that's why I'm still here And btw look at GW2 story progress with voice acting an choices in your personal story that permanent affect the different outcomes instead of all roads leading to one path Till then playing tortanic till the music stops (or the GW2 life raft come) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Karsk Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Ilum is not world pvp. With this patch they are buying themself some time with improving wz and how to get gear etc.So that they can fix maybe Ilum later. All in all it's a good change.Most of us have better things to do then to be spawncamped on Ilum week after week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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