This is a copy/paste of WoW's loot system, so it's here to stay. I'm kind of shocked that you have such a hard time determining what has or hasn't dropped. I would definitely suggest that you consider improving your inventory management skills.

The difference is that in the entire history of WoW, rogues have only been completely outclassed in every instance of the game by every other class maybe twice, ever. They always dominate something, with one of their specs. Operative, on the other hand, can make no such claim. They weren't even the best burst when buff stacking was around, Rage warriors were. Operative is the worst at everything they do (haven't tested healing post 1.2) and still get nerfed in every single balance patch. Just doesn't make sense.

I played hybrid for the first two and a half months of the game, but as enemies gear, skill levels, and general game knowledge grew the spec(s) began to dwindle in effectiveness. I no longer advise anything but full spec, one way or the other, for level 50 PvP.

You should take a video of you guys attempting this vs an intelligent 50 group before the Warzone queues get shared. Start the video when you reach their goal line and don't stop until the game ends. Post the video and share it here.

What... really..? This is how stacking HoTs/DoTs have worked for years, this is intended.

So how does a healing consumable deal 8000 damage?

If it's anything other than full premade vs full premade and full pug vs full pug, this system is going to be worthless.

8v8 trying to kill each other, with respawns, highest kill count (at end of timer, or adding to a total) wins is what we're talking about. Not 3v3 Arena.

This. I've never seen a true deathmatch in a major MMO (didn't play them all but...) and I would welcome it whole heartedly. Enough capture the flag, enough bomb defusing, enough hold the point. I just want a team deathmatch in an MMO. 1 room, 4 pillars, 2 teams. No Z axis. Go.

Mind-blowingly bad idea on BW's part. Punishment for playing their Warzones? What logic could there be for this?

Why would anyone call for a nerf? Rage juggs are already getting nerfed in 1.2, hard.

Get leapt to or knocked off, still lose. This skill is broken, get over it.

...is that a link to the SWG NGE emulator that people are trying to put together? Man. That explains a lot.

"Shortly after" in Blizzard terms is the same as "Early 2012" in Blizzard terms.

I'm going to be playing D3 like a fanatic but there's no PvP at all at launch and no ETA for it and the classes aren't even going to be close to balanced and never will be. Blizzard doesn't like MLG and have stated such.

Dear people: Stop saying "Skill>Class" in a thread talking about class balance. Any player who is amazing with an Operative would STILL BE AMAZING with a Sorc. Skill is skill. Class balance is class balance. They're different. Looking at Class v. Class, player skill has no part in the discussion.

Old spec: http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#4010cZGhModkrffzZhr.1 New spec: http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#4010cZGhModkrffzZhr.1 The 3% crit nerf and the Backstab changes are much more significant than this talent change.

It's very strong from 40-49

Ah, I miss the days of mid-40s concealment operative. When you can basically 4 second 100-0 any opposing player regardless of skill. Good times.

My points (on the rare occasion that I play conceal) will come from the 3 points I usually spend in Endurance. I'll miss the extra 900 or whatever HP but it's not going to break the spec.

Conceal is not a very good hybrid tree. Med/Leth hybrids are (were) amazing for defending Void/Civil nodes and are generally good for pug warzones with enemies that are too stupid to dispel, but there's no logic in a Conceal/Leth or a Conceal/Med hybrid. You lose too much damage by not filling the Conceal tree to make it worth it.

But when they're right, their games die.

Getting through the 3.5k absorb is still bursting! You just have to do it twice as hard and 2.25 times more often than an Operative absorb.

I'm sorry but there's no way in hell that you're being outbursted by a Sorc/Sage. They have nothing for burst compared to you. They're better in every way, however, so I'll give you that.

Because Operatives are terrible at everything.