Rocco_ Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 (edited) im not new to MMO's but i came from a game where it was pretty much face roll, i can keybind but i still find it tough to do, im trying to do the ESDF for movement but i dont see the advantage of it as i only gain from what i can tell 2 more keys, but i lose the ability to tab (if im tanking i need this to hold agro on mobs while waiting for my mass taunt. so i need tab for speed), with ESDF im having problems using the shift/ctrl modifier (so gaining 2ish but losing 8-10, i play on a laptop so i dont have number pad keys to bind, may be its just going to take more time to get used to, i hope people can give me more reasons as to why i would keep to ESDF instead of going back to WASD.. thank you Edited February 26, 2012 by Rocco_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetriarch Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 im not new to MMO's but i came from a game where it was pretty much face roll, i can keybind but i still find it tough to do, im trying to do the ESDF for movement but i dont see the advantage of it as i only gain from what i can tell 2 more keys, but i lose the ability to tab (if im tanking i need this to hold agro on mobs while waiting for my mass taunt. so i need tab for speed), with ESDF im having problems using the shift/ctrl modifier (so gaining 2ish but losing 8-10, i play on a laptop so i dont have number pad keys to bind, may be its just going to take more time to get used to, i hope people can give me more reasons as to why i would keep to ESDF instead of going back to WASD.. thank you Here's a good article by Taugrim on this issue. I think he answers your questions best: http://taugrim.com/2011/04/07/guide-to-strafing-movement-and-keybindings/ When adjusting your keybinds, you'll want to start with a new character. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocco_ Posted February 26, 2012 Author Share Posted February 26, 2012 (edited) Here's a good article by Taugrim on this issue. I think he answers your questions best: http://taugrim.com/2011/04/07/guide-to-strafing-movement-and-keybindings/ When adjusting your keybinds, you'll want to start with a new character. Hope this helps. i glanced over this but didnt read into it much as it was based on RIFT, the bit about starting a new char was good advice, started a merc so that i would get into each skill bit by bit and its pretty easy to get used to, the inability to use 'esc' and 'tab' at speed is an annoyance but something im sure i WILL get used to Edited February 26, 2012 by Rocco_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetriarch Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 (edited) i glanced over this but didnt read into it much as it was based on RIFT, the bit about starting a new char was good advice, started a merc so that i would get into each skill bit by bit and its pretty easy to get used to, the inability to use 'esc' and 'tab' at speed is an annoyance but something im sure i WILL get used to You should check it in its entirety. It was created during a Rift session, but applies to any MMO. Edited February 26, 2012 by Tetriarch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eilewot Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I use W forward, S backwards like most other ppl, but instead of using turn on A and D I put strafe there. I havent remapped turn at all since the mouse can handle the turning. That free up Q and E for spells/abilitys, and leave you with 12345qerf +mousescroll up, down, (click), forward and backward, thats 42 easy to reach keys with alt + ctrl modifier without having to change the normal movementkeysand without having a Naga. besides moving them makes it harder playing in dark lighting since you dont have alt and tab next to guide you. Btw does anyone know how to remove bugraport from §? Imo § is by far the best button for emergency abilitys (determination/healing pot, etc) Now its useless, and if i accidentally hit it anyway I get that damn bugreport meny blocking my view of teh fighting:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umpire Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I still use WASD (no keyboard turning) but to be honest i'm running 90% of the time with my two mouse buttons down. ESDF is nice and all, but if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jestunhi Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I use W forward, S backwards like most other ppl, but instead of using turn on A and D I put strafe there. I havent remapped turn at all since the mouse can handle the turning. That free up Q and E for spells/abilitys, and leave you with 12345qerf +mousescroll up, down, (click), forward and backward, thats 42 easy to reach keys with alt + ctrl modifier without having to change the normal movementkeysand without having a Naga. besides moving them makes it harder playing in dark lighting since you dont have alt and tab next to guide you. Btw does anyone know how to remove bugraport from §? Imo § is by far the best button for emergency abilitys (determination/healing pot, etc) Now its useless, and if i accidentally hit it anyway I get that damn bugreport meny blocking my view of teh fighting:) The latest patch should have changed the bug report button. On UK keyboards it was \ which is to the left of Z (and therefore hit in combat by mistake) but the last patch unbound it and should have made the key bindable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eilewot Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 ty missed that, joy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eroex Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 use arrow up, arrow down, arrow left, and arrow right. to jump take your hand off the mouse reach across the top of your left hand (the one on the arrow keys) and push space bar. I have seen people do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JColquhoun Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I use ASDF, with A and F being strafe. The only turning I do is with my mouse. Additionally, all my keybinds can be reached without moving my hand, just small finger movements for the most part. I use a program called "Key Tweak" to turn my windows key into a Left Ctrl button so it's right next to the alt key and I also switch f4 with f10 so that I can use f4/alt-f4 as a keybind without fear of closing the game by accident. I also use a Naga Razer MMO mouse and use 36 Quickslot keybinds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Failheals Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 What's wrong with mouse movement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umpire Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 What's wrong with mouse movement? Nothing at all, a lot of the good players I roll with use mouse movement Alt-F4ing mid game is always a hysterical one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Failheals Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Haha ya I've had to disable my windows key because I use alt modifiers it usually a simple alt tab that does me in while trying to fire off abilities and target lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocco_ Posted February 26, 2012 Author Share Posted February 26, 2012 i have a 5 button mouse, how would i go about making the game think that one button was alt and one was ctrl? that would make life so much faster....i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exphryl Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I still use WASD regular movement keys. With so many things auto facing, spinning around a player like an idiot is relatively worthless... I just try to position myself to proper knockback protection areas >_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenbruton Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 i just use WASD and mouse turn. It works fine for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Beastwood Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Using the mouse buttons to move means you can't really use the middle mouse button while moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umpire Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Using the mouse buttons to move means you can't really use the middle mouse button while moving. might depend on your mouse? I can always use my middle mouse button while moving... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthSalt Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 e-forward d-back s-strafe left f- strafe right. Mouse anything else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crixaliss Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Backwards: D Straife left/right: W/R Everything else: mouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moosimoo Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 WASD, AD are strafe and I try to never use S. People who backpedal in PvP shouldn't. Backpedal or PvP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seroxxx Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I also use a Naga Razer MMO mouse. This... Made my life easier. However if you take the mouse away, my effectiveness drops to 20%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
issosci Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I use a nostromo speedpad, I have my whole keyboard mapped to it. It has the movement keys next to the thumb of my left hand. It is shapped like a hand. I only use my keyboatd for typing messages. I dont see why more people dont use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umpire Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I really wouldn't like using the nostromo, typing in /say during your GCD while jumping in the air is an ART that I have MASTERED....could not do that with the nostromo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyrLXXVII Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Speaking of mouse turning, isn't there a arguing to have a toggle for it? Makes life so much easier and thought I remember WAR having that option but didn't see anything in pref. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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