Xerain Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 annihilate - dmg is good, but the proc that it creates is kind of stupid imo. yes it may be useful in pve, but in pvp how many times do you really use annihilate that can make use of the time reduction for the 3 procs. the proc is great in pvp especially against healers, good healers. it doesn't need to be changed imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcaciaDragon Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I would like to see a talent in carnage somewhere that increases the amount of Crit % each point of crit grants us or increase the crit chance of our abilities, specifically Massacre. Insta Crit Force screams are great, but Massacre is where its at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrHaterade Posted March 13, 2012 Author Share Posted March 13, 2012 You know, that's true, why DON'T marauders get a general +crit talent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosene Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Increase healing debuff to 30%, have disruption spell lock same type spells for a few seconds(wouldn't mind increasing cd), make offhand weapon usefull beyond looking pretty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosene Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 the proc is great in pvp especially against healers, good healers. it doesn't need to be changed imo. Add cripple/healing debuff/armor pen or something like +x% dmg on your next bleed ticks for y seconds.Problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasymodeX Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 You know, that's true, why DON'T marauders get a general +crit talent? Do we need one? We have 6% crit on force abilities. 15% on bleeds. 100% on Force Scream. 100% on Smash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcaciaDragon Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Do we need one? We have 6% crit on force abilities. 15% on bleeds. 100% on Force Scream. 100% on Smash. For carnage specifically, all the spec gets is the 6% from Malice, and thats in the Rage Tree. 100% Force Scream crits are great, but the majority of damage from Carnage comes from Ataru and Massacre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasymodeX Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 1. Doesn't affect the line of discussion where we're comparion Marauder access to crit chance buffs versus other classes. 2. Yeah, that was one of my early suggestions for stabilizing Carnage's damage output in particular -- it's too reliant on RNG while also reliant on fragile buff windows for pew pew. Something like +10% chance to crit while that 6 second Ataru proc buff is up would make the spec significantly less RNG-sucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrHaterade Posted March 14, 2012 Author Share Posted March 14, 2012 What Acacia said. Carnage could do well with a general +crit talent since it's so reliant on single target weapon damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNxAbaddon Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Increase healing debuff to 30%, have disruption spell lock same type spells for a few seconds(wouldn't mind increasing cd), make offhand weapon usefull beyond looking pretty. this a 1000 times this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrHaterade Posted March 16, 2012 Author Share Posted March 16, 2012 Here's another suggestion: make it so operatives can kill us in six seconds. You know, while we're still stunned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkosha Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 So many good ideas here. I don't have anything else to add as far as mechanics go, but I do wish we had the ability to use Double Bladed Lightsabers. Yes, its not much of a boost overall, buts it would a great QOL improvement. Sin's don't really melee and only use that weapon to proc force spells. Lets us have it and we can put it to good use. Either have a built in damage modifier which adds the corresponding damage normally given with an off hand weapon OR allow us to use an offhand shield/power gen for increased damage/stats. I know, its not earth shattering but when you consider how fast we go from skill to skill, from attack to attack, I bet we can really make that thing sing instead of it being wasted on a mage like class that uses it to just go whack-whack and done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcaciaDragon Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 So many good ideas here. I don't have anything else to add as far as mechanics go, but I do wish we had the ability to use Double Bladed Lightsabers. Yes, its not much of a boost overall, buts it would a great QOL improvement. Sin's don't really melee and only use that weapon to proc force spells. Lets us have it and we can put it to good use. Either have a built in damage modifier which adds the corresponding damage normally given with an off hand weapon OR allow us to use an offhand shield/power gen for increased damage/stats. I know, its not earth shattering but when you consider how fast we go from skill to skill, from attack to attack, I bet we can really make that thing sing instead of it being wasted on a mage like class that uses it to just go whack-whack and done. I think it would be great, maybe a talent that allows us to use one and a normal saber in the off hand as well, maybe an ability at level 50 like when mail wearers could wear plate at lvl 40 in WoW, or perhaps an ability that utilizes the double bladed saber in the animation so it only activates during it but give passive damage benefits since we can equip one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrHaterade Posted March 16, 2012 Author Share Posted March 16, 2012 (edited) ...I do wish we had the ability to use Double Bladed Lightsabers. Either have a built in damage modifier which adds the corresponding damage normally given with an off hand weapon OR allow us to use an offhand shield/power gen for increased damage/stats. I love it. Seriously. Adding it. It's funny, we have all these abilities that say "requires two lightsabers," but when will a marauder ever not have two lightsabers?! Having abilities or talents that make it worthwhile to either use just one or a double blader is a great idea. EDIT: I added it to a new passive abilities section. I think adding the off-hand damage and a shield would be fair if either the "requires two lightsabers" moves were tweaked to scale between double-bladed and dualies or they changed one of the trees to benefit d-bladers. It's highly unlikely this kind of a change would ever happen, but hey, it's still a great idea. Edited March 16, 2012 by mrHaterade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xDreegan Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 If they had the balls to put a single blade + double blade dual wield in the cinematic they should've had the balls to put it in game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrHaterade Posted March 18, 2012 Author Share Posted March 18, 2012 I agree 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcaciaDragon Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 What if Gore had another Talent after acquiring it(or it just came standard), that slowed the target by 30% or something during the duration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrHaterade Posted March 26, 2012 Author Share Posted March 26, 2012 What if Gore had another Talent after acquiring it(or it just came standard), that slowed the target by 30% or something during the duration. How about adding it to Overwhelm? 50/100% to immobilize with Ravage and snare with Gore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troelsen Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 (edited) As far as Carn's mobility in PvP, perhaps a tweek could be made to Force Camo's Unbound . It might look like: "Unbound 2/2 Force Camouflage has a 100% chance to break all movement-impairing effects and grant immunity to their reapplication for 8 seconds. . ." Sorry if this has been suggested already. I got through 4 pages and then this last page here. Edited April 28, 2012 by Troelsen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azurian Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 (edited) Yes, there is a problem with Cloaking in PvP. On Alderaan I found a 31 Jedi Shadow PvPing a 29 Imperial Officer who jumped on the guy while engaged in PvE. I was passing by on my 41 Juggernaught at the time and beat the Jedi to near death, he cloaked and retreated. Felt like a cheap victory how it's so easy to cloak and run without any consequences. Which makes me go into PvP kills in itself as a second suggestion: If you get killed in PvP without any PvE flags (being engaged in combat with NPCs) you should have to respawn at your base or wait 10-15 minutes to respawn than get up within 2 minutes. Because it ends up being lousy PvP where people get up and continue PvPing. As for my third suggestion - NPC Healers - needs nerfed. As I type this, I'm on Hoth battling Level 39 Buccaneers and they were healing one another and inspite having 5 levels on them, it was just going nowhere fast. In fact, I got the general impression these White Maw NPCs are mis-conns since they do so much damage for level 39-40 and not being Elite nor in a Heroic area. And due to the small populations, you cant even find groups to do these Heroic Missions, so you have to level higher and come back later if you want to experience them. Edited April 29, 2012 by Azurian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troelsen Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 I realize this thread is a bit old but it's still a thread centered on suggestions for Marauder, not the game in general. To revize my original tweek to Unbound, the immunity should last for the duration of Camo and for 4 seconds after Camo breaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boovi Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Marauders are in a great spot right now. Some of the things on the list would make us way too overpowered. I do agree with this one though... Annihilate: Increase length of Annihilator buff to 18 seconds. Three seconds might not seem like much, but I can't list how many times I use annihilate just in time to keep the buff up. This would be a great change because keeping the annihilator buff up is so crucial to our long term damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troelsen Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 My favorite idea so far is taking Gore off the global cooldown. The way it is now, 1.5 seconds of its 6 second duration is eaten up by the global. Is this intended? If so, they may as well increase the duration to about 10 seconds and give it 3 charges, consumed by Rage spenders and Channeled abilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinadin Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 (edited) My favorite idea so far is taking Gore off the global cooldown. The way it is now, 1.5 seconds of its 6 second duration is eaten up by the global. Is this intended? If so, they may as well increase the duration to about 10 seconds and give it 3 charges, consumed by Rage spenders and Channeled abilities. How about Gore increasing damage by 75% to channeled abilities and rage spenders with 6 charges. Edited May 12, 2012 by Vinadin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtoo Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 I would definitely take the immunity to knockbacks off the list unless it is granted to other melee classes. As an example, scoundrels and operatives already have the hardest time with knockbacks because they have no gap closer, and they have no way to be immune to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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