lightumup Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) So, I get that you are supposedly more gifted in the force at 4 than master Yuan was at 15, but is being able to take on full jedi masters so early after finishing the trials really legit? I mean come on, Anakin Skywalker was gifted in the force too, you did not see him soloing Count Dooku 3 days after finishing the trials.... You did not see him POwning Yoda. The whole storyline is a joke and a disrespect to Star Wars. Am I really the only one that thinks it feels really ridiculous to be taking out MASTERS so early in the storyline? It totally kills the experience for my consular, which sucks because I like the class itself. Whoever wrote the consular story did a terrible job. Jedi masters train for many many years. Masters like Dooku, or Sideous often require several jedi to take down. Only when Anakin reached his full potential with his extrodanairy gifts, was he able to defeat Dooku. Edited February 21, 2012 by Aurrelio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Nala Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 A few things: 1. Please add a spoiler tag. 2. Luke defeated a Sith Lord AS his trial; 3. Obi-Wan defeated a Sith Lord obviating the need for his trial; 4. Inquisitors defeat a Darth at level 15 or so. So no, it doesn't bother me at all that a fully trained Jedi prodigy could beat a few mind controlled masters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightumup Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share Posted February 21, 2012 Anyone agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratham Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Thanks for ruining the consular class story for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaelshi Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Anyone agree? not with your reasoning no. I don't think its a very good storyline but just because I'm not a fan of the story. It has nothing to do with anything you said(the guy who responded mentioned a few other scenarios which put the possibility of defeating masters as a reality. That said it is moot - there has to be leeway given in a game. I am a smuggler and you end up fighting and defeating sith and jedi. I loved Han Solo but do you really think Han vs Darth Vader would end in anything but Solo cut in half? It's a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degarmo Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Love the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oofpez Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Not to be overly picky, but if you take into context the time period that this game is actually taking place in, the Jedi temple in Coruscant was sacked, and the reason the starting planet is Tython is because they fell back after being more or less shunned by the Republic, so they're rebuilding from practically nothing. And also, during episode II, the Jedi that came to the rescue in the Colosseum were Jedi masters, and look at how many fell during that battle. There may be a reason to dislike the Consular story (from what I hear, it's great for lore buffs, and a little stale for other people), but judging from the time period, I think it actually makes sense. BTW, Dooku and Yoda were respected as the most powerful Jedi during their time (Dooku was Qui-Gon's master, and apparently the best when it came to lightsaber combat). You don't see your character taking on Satele at the beginning do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightumup Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share Posted February 21, 2012 A few things: 1. Please add a spoiler tag. 2. Luke defeated a Sith Lord AS his trial; 3. Obi-Wan defeated a Sith Lord obviating the need for his trial; 4. Inquisitors defeat a Darth at level 15 or so. So no, it doesn't bother me at all that a fully trained Jedi prodigy could beat a few mind controlled masters. First of all a couple things... There is a reason they are called MASTERS. The inquistor is able to beat skotia by disabling his cyborg elements, without which could not have been done. Luke Skywalker has the same power in his blood as the lord he beat. And Grievas was not a Sith Lord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andryah Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) Jedi masters train for many many years. Masters like Dooku, or Sideous often require several jedi to take down. Only when Anakin reached his full potential with his extrodanairy gifts, was he able to defeat Dooku. Did you try completing the story nekkid? I hear that helps gimp enough you so that you get spanked and sent back to your master. On a more sincere vein.... You do understand that all MMOs make compromises in the context of reality time lines, etc. so that people feel like they make progress at faster then real life, right??? For that matter, Luke Skywalker went from noob to Emperor killer in about six hours of film. MMOs and movies both take liberties with time tracks in the interest of promoting a story people will enjoy and feel fulfilled by. It's the nature of "entertainment". Edited February 21, 2012 by Andryah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Githadys Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 So, I get that you are supposedly more gifted in the force at 4 than master Yuan was at 15, but is being able to take on full jedi masters so early after finishing the trials really legit? I mean come on, Anakin Skywalker was gifted in the force too, you did not see him soloing Count Dooku 3 days after finishing the trials.... You did not see him POwning Yoda. The whole storyline is a joke and a disrespect to Star Wars. Am I really the only one that thinks it feels really ridiculous to be taking out MASTERS so early in the storyline? It totally kills the experience for my consular, which sucks because I like the class itself. Whoever wrote the consular story did a terrible job. Jedi masters train for many many years. Masters like Dooku, or Sideous often require several jedi to take down. Only when Anakin reached his full potential with his extrodanairy gifts, was he able to defeat Dooku. I enjoy my class story tyvm, so no I do not agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStelioKontos Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 If by take her on you mean out to dinner then YES! I write my own stories! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezranj Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Anyone agree? As a Star Wars dork, I can kind of see your point. Jedi and Sith are supposed to be incredibly powerful and only attain that power after years of training and study. So in that sense it doesn't make a lot of sense for relatively new Jedi to be taking down Masters. As a gamer though, I don't want to spend the first 30 levels doing trials in the temple. It's supposed to feel epic and engrossing. If you really need to analyze it, think of your story arc as a trial by fire. Maybe that will help you get passed your issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodan Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Anyone agree? i do, but with master nala Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkhosis Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Like I always say. No Moff too Toff! Nyuck nyuck. You're suppose to be a special bad azz hero/heroine/villain. Born a bad azz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightumup Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share Posted February 21, 2012 Not to be overly picky, but if you take into context the time period that this game is actually taking place in, the Jedi temple in Coruscant was sacked, and the reason the starting planet is Tython is because they fell back after being more or less shunned by the Republic, so they're rebuilding from practically nothing. And also, during episode II, the Jedi that came to the rescue in the Colosseum were Jedi masters, and look at how many fell during that battle. There may be a reason to dislike the Consular story (from what I hear, it's great for lore buffs, and a little stale for other people), but judging from the time period, I think it actually makes sense. BTW, Dooku and Yoda were respected as the most powerful Jedi during their time (Dooku was Qui-Gon's master, and apparently the best when it came to lightsaber combat). You don't see your character taking on Satele at the beginning do you? The only master in the colosseum was Windu. The rest were regular jedi, and all they could manage to gather, as was said in the story. Like I said, the title of master is only given to the most powerful jedi alive. So by killing a master, that is like killing Satele. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grueber Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 I didn't find the story compelling as an evil consular. The evil choices made you seem like a brute and the responses from the Jedi council were a stretch. "Another master dead again!?! Oh well" Could have used alot more subtlety and nuance for the evil part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaxonLuxor Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 And Grievas was not a Sith Lord No but Darth Maul was - L2SW, name I can't call you otherwise I will get a warning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andryah Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 The only master in the colosseum was Windu. The rest were regular jedi, and all they could manage to gather, as was said in the story. Like I said, the title of master is only given to the most powerful jedi alive. So by killing a master, that is like killing Satele. So, I have to ask.... did you rage quit yet? Is this your first MMO? What pushed you over the edge in other MMOs? I mean with your literal pragmatism, just about every MMO should have given you an arrow to the knee in this department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightumup Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share Posted February 21, 2012 No but Darth Maul was - L2SW, name I can't call you otherwise I will get a warning. Maul was an apprentice, not a sith lord. L2SW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightumup Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) So, I have to ask.... did you rage quit yet? Is this your first MMO? What pushed you over the edge in other MMOs? I mean with your literal pragmatism, just about every MMO should have given you an arrow to the knee in this department. I see your point, but there is a way of trying to be subtle about the massive time skip for entertainment value purposes. The consular story has you beating your master in open combat at level 12 or 13. That's ridiculous. Edited February 21, 2012 by lightumup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oofpez Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 The only master in the colosseum was Windu. The rest were regular jedi, and all they could manage to gather, as was said in the story. Like I said, the title of master is only given to the most powerful jedi alive. So by killing a master, that is like killing Satele. Yupyup, my bad, I, for some reason, thought you meant knights, and not masters... meh... but still, during that time period, there was more than one Jedi Master, and the ones you fought were controlled no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShiroRX Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) Maul was an apprentice, not a sith lord. L2SW Still a Lord. There is always two in that time. Both Dark Lords of the Sith. Maul was no better than Vadar job-wise, both underlings of Palpatine. But with your logic one is a Lord and the other isn't? I flagged your post for moderator intervention btw. You were told already to put spoiler tags on your pointless diatribe. Edited February 21, 2012 by ShiroRX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightumup Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share Posted February 21, 2012 Still a Lord. There is always two in that time. Both Dark Lords of the Sith. Yes, but there was a difference between Maul, and Dooku. Maul was a genuine apprentice, Dooku was a full fledged sith lord. Maul was never refered to as a Sith Lord, only as an apprentice. Maul was a new apprentice of Sideous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShiroRX Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) Yes, but there was a difference between Maul, and Dooku. Maul was a genuine apprentice, Dooku was a full fledged sith lord. Maul was never refered to as a Sith Lord, only as an apprentice. Maul was a new apprentice of Sideous Actually he was training Maul since a child. You don't know anything dude. Edited February 21, 2012 by ShiroRX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oofpez Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Yes, but there was a difference between Maul, and Dooku. Maul was a genuine apprentice, Dooku was a full fledged sith lord. Maul was never refered to as a Sith Lord, only as an apprentice. Maul was a new apprentice of Sideous Sideous was training Maul from infancy, and Maul was still referred to as 'Darth' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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