DiabloMuerto Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 14 should be the bare minimum, so they can at least have Sprint. This is what I've always felt, 14 certainly should be the minimum as w/o sprint that alone is a big disadvantage in any WZ. I do feel though there need to be 2 more brackets, a 10-25 (or as mentioned 14-25) and a 26-49. I think this would result in more balanced and enjoyable experiences for most people. Though they'd probably need cross server WZ before this would be feasible. I agree with the OP to an extent, I was in a huttball on my 41 consular the other night and all the enemy were 20 or lower mostly, I was like a freaking tank, had most of the team on me couldn't bring me down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
signahead Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Remove all under 25 level classes from warzones, they are absolutely useless and cannot do anything agianst a good 40 so it scompletely stupid to waste a slot Judging by your presence on the forums, I very much doubt that they want to be teamed up with you either. But at least they're out there playing the game instead of blaming you when the team struggles. I'm surprised that I'm saying this to anyone, but it seems to fit the situation: If randomly assigned teams upset you, then queue with friends or find a different game that gives you more control over your teammates. Right now it doesn't sound like you're enjoying yourself and you're probably not that much fun for your allies either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDeas Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Bolster only scales up your stats and hp by a base amount, you still have **** gear, and **** talents. Most classes work off of some mechanic that revolves around benefiting off of critical hits. People around level 10 will usually have no more than 12% crit with smuggler buff. People at around level 40 will easily have over 20% crit. That alone is a gigantic huge advantage. So it doesn't matter if your cute little level 10 abilities are going to do significant damage to them, they're going to crit you and nuke you in 5-6 seconds flat and capture the objective immediately. So unless it's lowbies vs lowbies, level 10's are useless in pvp. 5-6 seconds? You should stop going rambo then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDeas Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 You are bad and probably cant contribute on a lowbie, we get it. Maybe instead of keeping lowbies from warzones they should just keep bads like you from queuing up. That actually sounds like a great idea. That is essentially what this post calls for. If they're going to stop lowbies from going into PvP why not stop the Newbies as well? Doesn't matter if they're lvl 49, if they're not good then they're going to have their own disadvantages. I put up with it. I'm not one of these elitists that nerd rages then QQ's over new players. I actually take the time to offer constructive advice rather than beat on other people for not having the skill that I do (btw I don't consider myself particularly skilled, still on top of the leaderboards when I was in PvP at lvl 10 though). I don't know, maybe I'm nice and realise that in an MMO of all places I'm not the only person that matters and I should be conscientious of the fact that everyone at some stage was a newbie and will again be a lowbie. Essentially all the OP says is "I'm the only one that matters, I want this because I'm not good enough by myself and need to blame someone else for losing". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDeas Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 to be honest I **** lowbies so badly on my 41..like they wont make it out of my stunlock also I always see ppl say lvl 10s can beat lvl 40s...total ******** just liek how every other player was high ranking WoW Pvper, ect You're talking from personal experience. You're in the 40's, but 90% of those that are lvl 10 in a WZ are likely to be levelling an alt and not want to do side missions again. Chances are that they have skill, we'll assume that you are of equal skill to them. Logic dictates that if you have exactly the same skill and you're a higher lvl then you're going to win. That we can both agree on. The only thing is that not everyone is the same as you. There will be some lvl 40's with less skill (which the lowbie is likely to kill if they have skill) and there will be lvl 10's with more skill than you (these will likely kill you). It's swings and roundabouts. If you really think you can assrape all the lowbies then I'd suggest you either scale the ego down or go enter a pro-competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glor_ Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 ITT : People thinking carrying the ball or making passes in huttball is an important matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDeas Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 ITT : People thinking carrying the ball or making passes in huttball is an important matter. What fools they are. Thinking that trying to win the WZ is just ludicrous. Call the Asylums, there's obviously been a breakout... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthTolis Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 The WZ's arent just about killing the opponent. I'll take a lvl 10 thats playing the objective over a lvl 40 thats only concerned about getting kills any day. /signed /salute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atrabilios Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 I understand where you are coming from but the a good amount of the classes get around fine maybe a warrior should expect to be kited and such without his snares and **** yet but yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glor_ Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 What fools they are. Thinking that trying to win the WZ is just ludicrous. Call the Asylums, there's obviously been a breakout... 1vsx ing in Huttball is much more fun than trying to win it, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoodwinked Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 The WZ's arent just about killing the opponent. I'll take a lvl 10 thats playing the objective over a lvl 40 thats only concerned about getting kills any day. Actually, right now thats all they are about. While BW claims that their pvp system is objective based, its not. You dont get rewarded for doing the objectives in the matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slemfiskz Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 its not our fault, we like to level at 10+ , just make more groups otherwise like 10-25 and 25-49, however that would limit the amount of wz's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeebacca Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 We were all level 10 at one point...so don't be hating. A skilled player is more valuable then a higher level player in a Warzone...does it matter if the guy you're passing to beyond the goal line is level 10 or level 40? No, what matters is that he's there, going for the objective and open for the pass. Just my two credits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drudenfusz Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Everything below level 50 is just training grounds, no need for more separation there (would only increase the queue times, so that all of you who aren't 50 yet have to wait longer). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlemayhem Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 ... You're assuming all low levels are new people that don't know how to play, and are completely stupid. Fact is, some of the higher levels are just as retarded as some of the lower levels. You seem to be completely biased against lower levels. Like the guy on page 1/2 said, I'll take a level 10 doing the objective instead of a level 40 just going for kills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somokon Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 I'm topping the damage charts with my level 10-14 vanguard. Only a few people have been able to beat me 1v1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madwooki Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Op is mad cause a level 10 owned him and he has no excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viree Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Either way 10-49 WZ's are virtually flawless compared to the 50s bracket. I agree with whoever suggested to push Sprint back to lvl 10 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mironov Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Out of all this thread, the best idea so far is to move a sprint from 14 to 10. Before you can use a sprint it is not comfortable to play in war zones slugging behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawfox Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Remove all under 25 level classes from warzones, they are absolutely useless and cannot do anything agianst a good 40 so it scompletely stupid to waste a slot wrong people can learn. to avoid that useless pug play, you can level up to 50 propably someone will think you are useless then but you can shank him to proof your point. *raising fist* FOR THE <enter your side here> !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealAeiouy Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Actually, right now thats all they are about. While BW claims that their pvp system is objective based, its not. You dont get rewarded for doing the objectives in the matches. You get rewarded for winning so yeah you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDeas Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 You get rewarded for winning so yeah you do. ^^This Had a nice chuckle when I read this. I think it's become so fashionable to bash BW on the forums now that people don't think what they're saying through and just put any old statement and assume other to agree with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabbathius Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 If you get too many 10s, just leave the WZ and re-queue. I do. There's no way I'm carrying a bunch of 10s, sorry. Show some consideration and spend an extra 45 mins and get to at least 14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirialol Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Remove all under 25 level classes from warzones, they are absolutely useless and cannot do anything agianst a good 40 so it scompletely stupid to waste a slot i can prob **** ur *** on a lvl 10 toon pic of my wz on my alt for proof http://oi39.tinypic.com/1rvga8.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solnar_xan Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 This is one + to the cross server queue they could implement proper brackets: 10-14 15-19 20-24 25-29 30-34 35-39 40-44 45-49 50 This would allow talents to matter less and all the poor poor people who can't sprint would be stuck together... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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