If you run Boarding Party solo on your 50 main 15 times = 1.3 million credits. Boarding Party takes roughly 45 minutes to solo. (This is with looting everything all chests and selling it all) 45 * 15 / 60 = 11hrs that is how I bought my first full set of tier 2 legacy custom gear. It took one Saturday it sucked and my back and neck kinda hurt still... in a few weeks I will probably do that again as my normal credits go out as fast as they come in doing crew skills on 6 toons

yes, you can even send the kit its self to your commando

So What do I do when I have 8 level 50's ( 4 imp and 4 pub) ??? That will be in about 1 month maybe 2 btw. I would already have full list but I deleted 4 people to create pubs so I could see "all" the story.... So BioWare you got the expansion ready to launch in 2 months?

I would love to see a development plan and or timeline; won't happen.

Here is the big question. Will I only be able to transfer 1 of my 4 level 50's (soon to be 5) or will I be able to transfer them all for free? I say merge. There is only 1 or 2 high pop servers so I can't see those people moving to low pop servers therefore low pop servers must be consolidated. Also the server list sorts by # of chars by default so your server would be on top of the list (real hard to find)

The goal of a PAY TO PLAY MMORPG is to force you to re-sub in order to "do everything" I don't think fun is even on the radar at this point; although I do suppose it has to be at some level or most of us would not play and therefore pay

I really had no intent to insult you...

hmm i seem to have already done that. You can like it or not, but this is an MMORPG, MMORPGs are compared to WoW. WoW did "legacy" gear much better than SW:TOR birthright gear. The WoW gear is worth having the birthright gear must be an april fools joke they forgot to remove. I have 4 mainhand weapon tokens and 2 glove tokens that were basically forced on me that i have no real use for and well I can't even sell or trade them so YAY; wasted bank space in the hope it will be useful one day. Well actually they will sit in a mail box but same concept. Edit: this really makes no sense now, but it was in reply to a remark about comparing TOR to WoW

The legacy unlocks are great the gear...

Exactly. Being able to get a group and do content in an MMO is the root of all evil????? Not related to the quote, but FYI I personally have used the LFG/D tool in WoW tons and yes it is bad when people need on stuff for credits when I/YOU need the gear to equip, but in reality it happen like 1 out of 20 LFG/D groups and when it does happen it sucks. You guys may not have noticed but SW:TOR tends to drop gear that the group can use a lot more than WoW so this "gear" issue is much less of an issue than in WoW

Not trying to be insulting or anything like that, but how exactly would that work and why would it matter? All the flash points (for the most part) are 3 feet from each other and they all are on the fleet...

There are a lot of people who have jobs, families, and real life responsibilities that make a LFG/D tool almost the only way they will have time to experience the flash points. Everyone who has said NO for the most part is having a control freak issue. Furthermore, simply because a tool is available doesn't mean YOU have to use it. You can stand in town and shout or group with guildies as much as YOU want; have fun standing and doing nothing for hours while other people are playing the game and actually having fun.

Yes. And, for the record Cross server LFG/D tools don't ruin games PEOPLE ruin games. The LFG/D tool is the only reason I will play WoW anymore because I don't want to waste my time standing in town shouting for 3 hours to do a 30 minute instance. I shouted for years in WoW and the LFG/D tool was the best thing ever added to the game. If SW:TOR just can't handle a LFG/D because we are all such pansy asses who can't deal with people who aren't oh so nice all the time then AT THE VERY LEAST ADD A *********** GLOBAL CHAT SO SOMEONE CAN HEAR ME SHOUTING

I get the time sink and I get that I want to buy the stuff with my main and send it to an alt, but at this point the only thing it does is save me a few credits if for example I am twinking my alt with artifice + cybertech Maybe its for 5 years from now when I have 50000 daily coms? I've said before that this is the best MMO I've played to date, and I meant that, but this legacy gear is pretty weak. I am thankful that the orange legacy gear helps set a price bar for crafted orange gear, but idk I'm on the fence right now about re-subscribing when my time is up in around 3 months, things like pointless time sinks aren't going to make me want to re-sub. Don't get me wrong there is nothing wrong with a good time sink. I mean that is what games are for to pass time and have fun. At least in wow the heirloom gear was of use, and actually something you should want. But, then rolling an alt in wow is a bit different you don't have to do the same story over and over and over there are in fact MANY, MANY different ways to get to max level... so playing the same class over again can be totally changed from that the last time NOT the exact same story with maybe a few conversation changes. Here is my theory: if the legacy birthright gear scaled there would be no need tor the legacy custom/orange gear. If that is the case then maybe the birthright gear should not be in the game at all and AWESOME mods, armors,hilts etc that scale should be a birthright? then you can have the amazing scaling of WoW heirloom gear, that everyone who has heard of it, was hoping for and still have a very good use for the orange unlock gear. PLUS it could cost tons to pull out this AWESOME heirloom/legacy mod/armor/hilt and provide a money sink... but hey what do I know right only 30 years of gaming XP

Why would I want to buy this Birthright gear that is good for only a few levels and BARELY better than full purple moded orange gear? So I can use it on a second level 14 _______ are you kidding me? The gear should scale at least that would make it worth the 200 daily coms it costs for ONE piece. The over priced orange at least can be modded, but even then I'm never going to have a second ________ to send it too, and there are no augment slot so at lvl 50 my 1mil credit gear is useless. Legacy = FAIL. Seriously though, can anyone give me a reason why I would want the birthright gear?

In regards to LFG/D tool. I still have a sub to WoW and I still play WoW from time to time. The main thing I do in WoW now is level a warrior -> at level 15 I start to tank instances using the LFD to I do this over and over I do 0% other content. When I reach level 85 (max level) I delete the warrior and re-roll a new warrior and do it all over again. Why? Because running instance is the most fun for me. Standing in town for 3hrs saying "LFG BT" not so much. I would rather you know actually play a game and do some stuff. On A side note: I have another max level war tank that I run max level stuff on, but I really enjoy the leveling doing 5mans and meeting and helping people from all over the US and other parts of the world not just on my low pop server where I dislike 75% of the people because I got to know them.

That is my main problem atm, if there was something shinny I could work towards I would work towards it and be happy, but there just isn't anything worth the effort. That said let us be honest those of us who played WoW both love and hate the LFD tool. We love not standing in town shouting for 4 hours to run a 20 minute instance we hate that way people act in the instance and we hate that a lot of the time people just get carried thanks to to the LFD tool. That said if there was an LFD tool in TOR I would be so happy because I could have fun doing flash points WHENEVER I FELT LIKE IT. Standing in town is not, in my opinion, a fun game.... I can just go stand in my living room and it is better because there are no ******* in there.

Um I've already done that 3 times and it was to easy then as well; I only died when I tried to 1 man heroic 4s or when some really off the wall bs happened because of stupid AI

Man I wish I could find a guild where I fit in like that.

I've been doing this and am currently at level 25 on my alt alt alt using legacy gear and purple armors mods; sorry it is very easy maybe it will get harder but so far I have only died when I tried to 1 man that HEROIC 4 The game is super easy if you are a veteran MMORPG player. That is my current mini game to keep me playing upgrade gear to next tier purple armor, mods, enhancement, hilts etc every 3levels pwn pwn pwn. TO EASY but I doubt an iron man challenge would work in TOR; at least not with the exact same rules I for example use medpacs and stims while I pwn pwn pwn without my companion...

I want to see an itemized list to back up this BS claim you keep making about content and how epic TOR is. When I say itemized I want a list of every feature TOR had at launch and the hours of game play as well as that of every other MMORPG to date.

Try counting at 5AM-8PM instead of at peak hrs

/sigh you my friend are an idiot . And arguing with an idiot who refuses to see the point is pointless. The point was and is -> are server transfers part of an MMO game? NO are they an expected feature of an MMO game YES. Now here is the bit for you: I build cars and games and I do top notch work I don't half *** it. Half A S S is not putting a trivial feature, that would take at most 1 week to implement and test, in at launch. Half A s s is not including feature that should obviously be available from launch at launch (legacy system). Half A s s is doing a piss poor job of designing a PvP system and then claiming it was just "interim" You are just making excuses for piss poor game design and poor development skills. Being a professional in the field I can attest to this fact. Hey, but you can be glad to know the next time I have to pull an engine to rebuild it I'll chuckle and laugh and think of what an idiot you are

/agree

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