Crawfishies Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 (edited) Annihilation spec 1) Bleeds from the Deadly Saber? 2) Bleeds from Rupture? 3) Or just to hell with it, and use it beserk when both are up at the same time, LOL Edited February 10, 2012 by Crawfishies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herblaw Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 I keep all my bleeds up at the same time anyways...Usually after i have them up i cast zerk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omophorus Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Annihilation spec 1) Bleeds from the Deadly Saber? 2) Bleeds from Rupture? 3) Or just to hell with it, and use it beserk when both are up at the same time, LOL First and foremost is keeping bleed uptime to maximum, so trying to overly nitpick is going to result in a drop in DPS (you'll spend so much time trying to micromanage the timing of your bleeds that you'll wind up suffering). When feasible, I try to pop Berserk with 3x DS stacks and Rupture up. 3xDS is the strongest per-tick bleed, and thus the ideal candidate for forcing crits with Berserk. Popping with both up consumes all stacks near-instantly for very rapid heals, a nice burst of damage, and a minimal number of GCDs spent not building more Fury. We can build so much Fury per GCD as Anni spec that time spent with Berserk up and slowly ticking down is wasted DPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonumbers Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 you want ALL bleeds up when berserk is up, berserk is 100% crit rate on bleeds, so all active bleeds crit... thus you want them all up to maximum your damage, that said as annihilation you just be keeping them up as much as possible anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liegence Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 you want ALL bleeds up when berserk is up, berserk is 100% crit rate on bleeds, so all active bleeds crit... thus you want them all up to maximum your damage, that said as annihilation you just be keeping them up as much as possible anyway. Doesn't exactly work like this, unless by ALL crits you mean the next 6 dot ticks subsequent to popping Zerk. Rupture dots would deal the most damage when crit, but the more dots you have out the faster Zerk will runout which means less time till the next Zerk I would agree trying to manage this in practice is probably not worth the risk of missing a key priority strike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cindikle Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Use it right away. Only time you want to save it is for PvP and you don't need healing. In which case it may benefit you to pop one of the other two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonumbers Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Doesn't exactly work like this, unless by ALL crits you mean the next 6 dot ticks subsequent to popping Zerk. Rupture dots would deal the most damage when crit, but the more dots you have out the faster Zerk will runout which means less time till the next Zerk I would agree trying to manage this in practice is probably not worth the risk of missing a key priority strike. No, I mean all bleed effects during those 6 ticks. If you have bloody saber AND rupture up at the same time, they will both crit tho only one of them will be ticking the healing (due to the 1.5 sec requirement between heals). Stacking up bloody saber to full and having rupture go up, you're adding significant damage if you enforce all their ticks count as crits. Possibly a good 20~40% more damage depending on critical and surge for the bleeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KilllerRock Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 (edited) i only pvp. So i use it anytime its up and im missing/losing health. I like the hp regen more than anything, the guaranteed crits causing more damage is just a plus. And when you pop immune shield, then health pot and then beserk. you just go from 10% hp to 40% hp in no time. Edited February 11, 2012 by KilllerRock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbonated Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 I use this as I start applying deadly saber or whatever its called (memorys fuzzy) and make sure i have rupture up first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mufutiz Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 (edited) for pve it really doesn't matter that much since it's not a buff like a stim but just buffs up a fixed number of ticks, so just fire and forget. just make sure you have deadly saber stacked to 3. if you want to use a consumable or relic, try to line it up . in pvp you need to decide wether you want the burst or the healing. Edited February 12, 2012 by mufutiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vember Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Use it when you have three stacks of Saber running, on golds and the occasional silver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawfishies Posted February 13, 2012 Author Share Posted February 13, 2012 Use it when you have three stacks of Saber running, on golds and the occasional silver. Yah, i find that rupture bleeds are whimpy. it doesn't do much even when crit., it was only around 450-500 when crit. but when the stacks of the deadly blade, 1st one was around 450, 2nd one around 925, 3rd one 1300-1400, and i think i remember i got a another tick of 1300-1400. I think i'll try to use berserk "after" the rupture bleeds are done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumri Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Try to time it with 3-stack Deadly Saber and Rupture. If not then at least 2-stack DS. Using it with 1 stack DS is a bit of a waste even considering the time lost potentially gaining more fury. You can use auto attack to build rage for the next 2 GCDs so no potential fury will be wasted stacking DS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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