Spyde Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Why ? Person with Top damge does not deserve MVP. Why ? He most likely spammed AoE with only goal of top damage. Person with the most protection does not deserve MVP Why ? You can Exploit 75k protection + in about 1min. Person with the most healing does not "always" deserve MVP. Why ? Ive seen people go stand in acid and go spam heals on themselves. Vote MvP for the person you see score, help somone score, hold off an objective long enough for help. That you see healing you in a fight, that you see guarding you in a fight. Scoreboard means nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redial Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Why ? You can Exploit 75k protection + in about 1min. . how exactly do you manage that? i always have to work for mine. but yes i give medals to people who are defending by themselves giving up the medals for a chance to win the match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulukinatme Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 I'll give my MVP vote to whomever I dang well please. In fact, next Huttball I'm givin' it to the guy with the most deaths and lowest healing/DPS, cause that dude obviously needs more commendations for gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jezzikah Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 I'll give my MVP vote to whomever I dang well please. In fact, next Huttball I'm givin' it to the guy with the most deaths and lowest healing/DPS, cause that dude obviously needs more commendations for gear. that's funny, since I usually vote for the fresh 50 still in crap PvE gear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avip Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 The best way to get protection is by guarding the person with the ball, please explain how that does not help the team. Unless you know an actual exploit that gives incorrect protection numbers, I call BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philbert Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 (edited) The best way to get protection is by guarding the person with the ball, please explain how that does not help the team. Unless you know an actual exploit that gives incorrect protection numbers, I call BS. Or guarding a healer in Voidstar or, for that matter, anyone in any possible match, save for a tank (Unless Huttball). Guarding someone increases their chance of surviving, which in turn increases their chance of doing their job better. Guarding a DPS, they kill more. Guarding a healer, they heal more. When I do any WZ, I usually look at the top "Guard" player, and then look at their medals compared to #2, #3, etc. If only one person bothered to use it (And DPS "tank" classes should be using the taunts even if they are DPS and not using guard) then I give it to them. If they have like x9 badges, then I may give it to #2. Fact is, if you are a DPS Juggernaut/Guardian, Assassin/Shadow, Powertech/Vanguard, and you are NOT using the AoE taunts or regular taunts every possible chance you get, you are failing your teammates, and failing to get more badges. Edited February 9, 2012 by Philbert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beelzebubs Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 I always deserve MVP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpassailant Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 (edited) I give MVP to those who play that warzone well. Edit: Not just well but exceptional or I don't even bother clicking an mvp. I don't give MVP to those who request it and think they deserve it unless the above applies. Edited February 9, 2012 by Scorpassailant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderFlyn Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Why ? Person with Top damge does not deserve MVP. Why ? He most likely spammed AoE with only goal of top damage. Scoreboard means nothing. poor Sentinels and Gunslingers and other DPS spec'd classes...you shall never be an MvP for some strange reasons *shrugs* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karcyon Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 I agree but only if we lose lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidasaind Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 poor Sentinels and Gunslingers and other DPS spec'd classes...you shall never be an MvP for some strange reasons *shrugs* If I could vote for enemy marauders, they'd get my vote. Because they sure make my life a living hell in WZs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 I'll give my MVP vote to whomever I dang well please. In fact, next Huttball I'm givin' it to the guy with the most deaths and lowest healing/DPS, cause that dude obviously needs more commendations for gear. GOOD! I do the same. Top DPS dealer doesn't need it, nor does the top healer or the top protector. The guy who needs new gear the most gets my vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marinus_ Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 (edited) While I tend to vote for healers, I agree with the OP. Several times I've had key knockbacks, pulls, or heals in a Huttball match, only to see top damage and heals get all the MVPs. II usually play an instrumental part in all of our goals, but rarely get recognized for it. Generally, if you're top damage in Huttball, you're not a great asset to your team as far as objectives go. It's about control and finesse, not sheer power. Edited February 9, 2012 by Marinus_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keldaur Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Where do these guys come ? When there is a guy who is doubling the damage isn't only about "spamming mindless aoe", it's one guy who is putting the pressure of 2 guys on the enemy's team, making taking/defending objectives way easier. It's like saying a healer who healed a lot isn't playing objectives. And i vote for the less geared guy or friends, that's how i roll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somalin Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 I vote for whoever hasn't left by the time I'm done reading the scoreboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aharx Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 I usually save my MVP vote for certain types of people. Those who show great leadership skills. Actually giving advice for objectives, helping fellow team mates out, etc. If I see another player who looks like they're doing an out standing job at some point too I'll give it to them. For example, if someone gets jumped by three enemy players and fights them off successfully that usually merits an MVP vote from me. I don't just look at highest damage and give it to them, that just seems silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyrosso Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 I deserve it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenthum Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 I don't even bother clicking an mvp. These people annoy me. There is ALWAYS someone who you should be clicking MVP on regardless of the situation. ANY vote is helping your faction. Not voting essentially throws commendations/valor for your team in the garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bludvein Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 It doesnt bother me, bu I RARELY get any mvp voted on my sniper. even if I do my job perfectly. We just seem to get screwed that way. Earlier today I had over 100k dmg over the next person, 55 kills and 3 deaths. Not a single vote. So not only do us pure dps classes get screwed on medals, nobody even bothers to toss us votes once in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admriker Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 (edited) Or guarding a healer in Voidstar or, for that matter, anyone in any possible match, save for a tank (Unless Huttball). Guarding someone increases their chance of surviving, which in turn increases their chance of doing their job better. Guarding a DPS, they kill more. Guarding a healer, they heal more. When I do any WZ, I usually look at the top "Guard" player, and then look at their medals compared to #2, #3, etc. If only one person bothered to use it (And DPS "tank" classes should be using the taunts even if they are DPS and not using guard) then I give it to them. If they have like x9 badges, then I may give it to #2. Fact is, if you are a DPS Juggernaut/Guardian, Assassin/Shadow, Powertech/Vanguard, and you are NOT using the AoE taunts or regular taunts every possible chance you get, you are failing your teammates, and failing to get more badges. forgive me for a dumb question, but why would I as an assassin want to taunt anyone ? Ive got light armor for starters. I dont want that trooper turning and firing on me. Im hoping he stays focused on that nasty dps sorc while i slice him up from behind I cant fit all the specials we have as it is on my toolbar. that taunt, if i recall was a stance i wouldnt use isnt on my toolbar oh and how will I even know if I was voted MVP ? I asume I probably never have gotten it. But Im never the top damage dealer, my force wave isnt used to push up my score. I actually use it to knock people off ramps, bridges, save a turret, etc. and that aoe spinning attack I have is only used when 4 players are all working to defuse my bomb. basically I dont have an aoe to spam nor do I care if doing so will increase my damage score Im rarely in the top 3 for kills. And Ive had other players complain that I suck in general chat after because as an assassin I should be doing more destruction according to them. I play wz to gasp WIN. so if that means sitting on a turret, guarding a door, letting 5 republics smack the crap out of me while I do everything I can to get them off the door, force wave a healer to the melee below knowing Im gonna get hammered by 3 troopers guarding him, etc then I will do it. So if this silly taunt thing is just a means of getting more medals but does nothing (or hampers) my ability to win a wz, let me be frank....I WONT BE DOING IT. Bioware really needs to just remove that scoreboard. Its nothing more than an epeen stick like recount was in wow, leads to bad behavior. No wonder I never win when a healer is spam healing / walking into acid just for medals Edited February 9, 2012 by admriker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jblazen Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Yeah it's funny because I don't get high dmg numbers because I'm busy CC'ing and escorting the ball carrier. As a sorc I try to get in a high tier and in position for a cluth pull that equals an easy score. I do this until we win. This rarely results in most dmg or most kills but I easily have the greatest impact on a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scootle Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 So not only do us pure dps classes get screwed on medals, nobody even bothers to toss us votes once in a while. Screwed on medals as a DPS? hahahahah... try playing a healer, my friend, then get back to us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdarpa Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Or guarding a healer in Voidstar or, for that matter, anyone in any possible match, save for a tank (Unless Huttball). Guarding someone increases their chance of surviving, which in turn increases their chance of doing their job better. Guarding a DPS, they kill more. Guarding a healer, they heal more. When I do any WZ, I usually look at the top "Guard" player, and then look at their medals compared to #2, #3, etc. If only one person bothered to use it (And DPS "tank" classes should be using the taunts even if they are DPS and not using guard) then I give it to them. If they have like x9 badges, then I may give it to #2. Fact is, if you are a DPS Juggernaut/Guardian, Assassin/Shadow, Powertech/Vanguard, and you are NOT using the AoE taunts or regular taunts every possible chance you get, you are failing your teammates, and failing to get more badges. Everything you said could not be truer if it came from the mouth of [SWTOR FORUM EDIT: YOU CANNOT STATE OR MAKE REFERENCE TO RELIGIOUS FIGURES IN SWTOR FORUMS - PEOPLE GETS DA OFFENDED] This is why I guard the ball carrier in hutball. Guard the healer in VS and Alderann, and spam taunts and challenging call as if I were a pew-pew and that junk was tracer missile. Alas, when I arrive in a pug doomed to lose through miscommunication or failure to understand objective-based play, I simply find the person people are beating on the most and put guard on them. This way I can farm a few medals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admriker Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 nobody gonna answer my question from page 2 ? why would I taunt if Im a dps assassin ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tmaista Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 I was gona post a thread about the exact same thing. Remove mvp because scrubs will give it to scrubs, and scrubs arent valuable. Just played a warzone where some player did more damage than me, but had absolutely no effect in the huttball match i scored our two goals (we lost 2-3) and came third on damage still, was even close on the third goal, with absolutely no team backup. I ended up with 0 mvp votes with the one guy already being battlemaster, with no intentions of winning ends up with the bonus reward ( ones he already dont need.) It dont bother me a whole lot that i dont get voted on, personally i vote on those who need the valor and commendations. Anyway fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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