MonsAlpha Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Lolwut? So wait, you're telling me that all I need to do is throw corrosive grenade, fire a weakening blast, then just cull and laugh? Give me a week and let me get my sniper up to 50! Seriously though, am I the only one who thinks this is kind of ridiculous? The DoTs alone do 500 damage per tick and last 21 seconds if uncleansed! That's more than half your health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiTaNsFaN Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Lolwut? So wait, you're telling me that all I need to do is throw corrosive grenade, fire a weakening blast, then just cull and laugh? Give me a week and let me get my sniper up to 50! Seriously though, am I the only one who thinks this is kind of ridiculous? The DoTs alone do 500 damage per tick and last 21 seconds if uncleansed! That's more than half your health. Have you tried dispelling the poison? Hard counters that spec. Also, snipers are probably the worst pvp class right now... don't bother with this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byteresistor Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 So you have a health pool of 7000 or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsAlpha Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 Have you tried dispelling the poison? Hard counters that spec. Also, snipers are probably the worst pvp class right now... don't bother with this thread. Yep, let me use my cleanse on my shadow, that makes sense. Sage cleanses only clear negative mental or force, poison is tech. And snipers are probably the best pvp class, you clearly haven't played one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerdoc Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 (edited) So you have a health pool of 7000 or something? Well, if DoTs do 500 to him then he most likely have yet to pick AC. Yep, let me use my cleanse on my shadow, that makes sense. Sage cleanses only clear negative mental or force, poison is tech. And snipers are probably the best pvp class, you clearly haven't played one. Resilience says hi. And last time I've check, you've got plenty of tracer missile turrets completely negating the spec, for the spec sake they are all too stupid to press the button negating about 95% of specs DPS. Edited February 6, 2012 by Lerdoc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsAlpha Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 Well, if DoTs do 500 to him then he most likely have yet to pick AC. Resilience says hi. And last time I've check, you've got plenty of tracer missile turrets completely negating the spec. 2 level 50's so that's a false assessment. Resilience is 3 seconds. Tracers are still annoying sure, I'm simply attempting to start a discussion on lethality snipers. How could I have been so stupid as to assume people on forums like to discuss other than berate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squiddish Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 2 level 50's so that's a false assessment. Resilience is 3 seconds. Tracers are still annoying sure, I'm simply attempting to start a discussion on lethality snipers. How could I have been so stupid as to assume people on forums like to discuss other than berate? He means the TRACERMISSLETRACERMISSLETRACERMISSLETRACERMISSLE people have the ability to cleanse Tech debuffs. So, playerbase problem, not Sniper problem. If 1/10th of the Tracer spammers played their class even remotely well, Lethality would be a joke. Everything would get cleansed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byteresistor Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 2 level 50's so that's a false assessment. Yet you still haven't found the ability that removes dots on your shadow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maruchani Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 So what you're saying is 80% of the WZ population consisting of Bright Wizards and Grav Round/Tracer Missile spammers aren't cleansing their teammates? Are they even cleansing themselves? Do they even know they have the skill? Hmz.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrekorSilverfang Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 With the amount of Mercs around, lethality snipers are basically worthless because their DoT's will get removed all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsAlpha Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 Yet you still haven't found the ability that removes dots on your shadow? Lasts 3 seconds, as I've stated. All they have to do is throw another one on you and you're back at square one. Resilience is on a 1 minute CD, I can't spam it as a cleanse. If It were on a 5 second CD then sure, I'd spam that **** like crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctournys Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Im giving Lethality a go (switched from Marskman) and .. against someone with a brain, it's a dead spec. The DoTs dont tick for 500... they tick for about 280, and maybe CRIT for 500. If you're soloqueueing with bads, yeah, a L. Sniper will melt you if you have a single healer on your team.. yeah, neutered. Long cooldowns on C. Grenade, Weakening Blast, and Cull make it a one trick pony. I post more damage on my L. Sniper build than as MM, almost without fail.. but that damage is just useless disease spreading. I may only do 300k as Marskman, but thats 300k of damage that mattered, not 450k of damage that healed through without pause or problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knifewrench Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 A sniper of any spec is not a threat to anything that moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosseking Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 (edited) Lasts 3 seconds, as I've stated. All they have to do is throw another one on you and you're back at square one. Resilience is on a 1 minute CD, I can't spam it as a cleanse. If It were on a 5 second CD then sure, I'd spam that **** like crazy. You do know that one dot costs 20 energy? That is 1/5th of our energy bar. Did you also know that the higher our energy is the faster the regeneration is? We have to keep the bar over 75% otherwise in few seconds we can't do anything else than the basic attack. Did you even know that the dot from the talent tree and the one that gives 30% more damage to dot abilities have cooldowns? I doubt you knew because you seem to be horrible at playing. Edited February 6, 2012 by Bosseking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnsTwoThree Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 So what you're saying is 80% of the WZ population consisting of Bright Wizards and Grav Round/Tracer Missile spammers aren't cleansing their teammates? Are they even cleansing themselves? Do they even know they have the skill? Hmz..Sorcerors cannot dispel tech abilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythicrose Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 (edited) 2 level 50's so that's a false assessment. Resilience is 3 seconds. Tracers are still annoying sure, I'm simply attempting to start a discussion on lethality snipers. How could I have been so stupid as to assume people on forums like to discuss other than berate? You're failing to state how energy intensive a lethality sniper is. I've 1 vs 1'd several lethality snipers with my marksman. I still kill them because they lack as much burst. They do better against tank classes to be sure, but that's about it. They're similar to madness sorcs in that they can pillar hump and dot a few foes (depending on energy level and if foes are clustered for the poison grenade). Weakening blast is good as it is another instant attack. They can rack up a lot of damage in a warzone just by spamming dots (as energy allows). I've tried this spec but returned to marksman. I do fine enough against anyone 1 vs 1 but struggle against tanks (powertechs more so than juggs and really haven't run across many assassin tanks on my server). Edit : Would like to add I've seen several lethality snipers stay out of cover when channeling cull and thus getting interrupted or spell pushed back. That's always entertaining to see. I would blame this more on people reading how "awesome" one spec is and how it's not cover dependant, etc. and forgetting the benefits of cover for at least a few abilities. Cull is pretty expensive, too. 40 energy or something? Can't remember. Edited February 6, 2012 by Mythicrose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsAlpha Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 You do know that one dot costs 20 energy? That is 1/5th of our energy bar. Did you also know that the higher our energy is the faster the regeneration is? We have to keep the bar over 75% otherwise in few seconds we can't do anything else than the basic attack. Did you even know that the dot from the talent tree and the one that gives 30% more damage to dot abilities have cooldowns? I doubt you knew because you seem to be horrible at playing. Why do you people have to be so *********** mean? I'm just trying to have a discussion which is apparently impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkfreudHC Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 So what you're saying is 80% of the WZ population consisting of Bright Wizards and Grav Round/Tracer Missile spammers aren't cleansing their teammates? Are they even cleansing themselves? Do they even know they have the skill? Hmz.. Why would I cleanse myself when I can LoS and try to heal myself and get the 2.5k heal medal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiTaNsFaN Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Guys this is obviously a troll thread, the OP is complaining about SNIPERS... r u srs? :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosseking Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Why do you people have to be so *********** mean? I'm just trying to have a discussion which is apparently impossible. Because people like you are the cancer of the community and these forums. People who don't know how to play at all yet come to whine in forums how every other class is overpowered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsAlpha Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 Because people like you are the cancer of the community and these forums. People who don't know how to play at all yet come to whine in forums how every other class is overpowered. I'm not whining, I never said it was overpowered, I'm not asking for it to be removed, I'm simply asking the opinions of others. Sorry for doing so, go back under your bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythicrose Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I'm not whining, I never said it was overpowered, I'm not asking for it to be removed, I'm simply asking the opinions of others. Sorry for doing so, go back under your bridge. From your original post : Lolwut? So wait, you're telling me that all I need to do is throw corrosive grenade, fire a weakening blast, then just cull and laugh? Give me a week and let me get my sniper up to 50! Seriously though, am I the only one who thinks this is kind of ridiculous? The DoTs alone do 500 damage per tick and last 21 seconds if uncleansed! That's more than half your health. You weren't exactly asking for opinions here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosseking Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 (edited) I'm not whining, I never said it was overpowered, I'm not asking for it to be removed, I'm simply asking the opinions of others. Sorry for doing so, go back under your bridge. I'm sorry I was so hard on you. Let me make it up and give you a few hints for the future to prevent this kind of hostile reception in the forums : 1. Don't start your post with a "lolwut?" 2. Don't ask whether using three skills and laughing is the only thing you need to do. It obviously is not. 3. When you make the first thread about a certain issue in the entire forum and ask "am I the only one thinking this way", yes, you probably are. 4. Don't state that one class is the best pvp class just because a certain class with certain spec has killed you. It's what a child whose brains are still developing would think. Something that happens to you doesn't necessarily happen to everyone else OR everything else. There are 8 different classes in the game you know. But for the original question, no, it is not ridicilous and the spec isn't op (as you hinted in the op and few posts later said out loud) mostly because it isn't the class and the spec that is op, it is because the way you play your shadow is making that class underpowered. Nothing bioware can do about that, BUT you can. Instead of crying in the forums, spend a little time trying to get better in the game. Optional, of course. I'll give you one more tip for the road. You said, and I quote you now, that "snipers are probably the best pvp class, you clearly haven't played one." As your first post states, you don't have one at lvl 50. Saying something like that makes you sound painfully stupid so don't do it! Also sure, you didn't say the spec was op you just said the class is the best in the game. A huge difference and I apologize twisting your words! I wish you good luck in your adventures and I hope you learned something today! Edited February 6, 2012 by Bosseking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killomend Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Also you seem to have a history with ezmode classes Finally, I've made it! http://imgur.com/dThcH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihateyouall Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 (edited) I'm not whining, I never said it was overpowered, I'm not asking for it to be removed, I'm simply asking the opinions of others. Sorry for doing so, go back under your bridge. You started the thread saying lolwut, lethality snipers are so easy and are an auto-win class. I don't know how you think that is "just trying to start a conversation thread" They aren't. It isn''t even the best sniper PvP spec. It's just the easiest one to play and figure out. Edited February 6, 2012 by ihateyouall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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