BoDiE Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 tell that to the noobs that thing they know everything More Tl;dr posts that won't make any difference please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mamono Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Operatives have been nerfed completely, the concealment spec is too weak... You can barely kill clothies and automatically lose vs heavy armored opponents... You are weak an others know it so since you are melee you are one of the first targets for noob tracer spam Are you kidding me? I have a LvL 12 Opretive and I mop the floor with any ranged class alredy. If I see a bounty hunter, I know I have a free kill there, unless he manage to knock me down from anywhere (Huttball). 2 Stuns at LvL 10, ranged ability AND OP melee ability. I can use cover if I want to snipe off someone or that I just want to do some ranged, and if I want to own someone, I just stealh in and hope they do not see me. 1v1 against a high lvL player, I have about 60-70% win ratio. I will just say, learn2play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labradoraki Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 Are you kidding me? I have a LvL 12 Opretive and I mop the floor with any ranged class alredy. If I see a bounty hunter, I know I have a free kill there, unless he manage to knock me down from anywhere (Huttball). 2 Stuns at LvL 10, ranged ability AND OP melee ability. I can use cover if I want to snipe off someone or that I just want to do some ranged, and if I want to own someone, I just stealh in and hope they do not see me. 1v1 against a high lvL player, I have about 60-70% win ratio. I will just say, learn2play. i ll say l2p and first get to 50 where you deal 1k crit with shiv and 2-3k with hidden strike and then talk against 18000 hp opponents that hit you for 3k every second, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Rinzler- Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 (edited) Are you kidding me? I have a LvL 12 Opretive and I mop the floor with any ranged class alredy. If I see a bounty hunter, I know I have a free kill there, unless he manage to knock me down from anywhere (Huttball). 2 Stuns at LvL 10, ranged ability AND OP melee ability. I can use cover if I want to snipe off someone or that I just want to do some ranged, and if I want to own someone, I just stealh in and hope they do not see me. 1v1 against a high lvL player, I have about 60-70% win ratio. I will just say, learn2play. You probably owning people in 1-49 BECAUSE they havnt learned how to play. Lvl50 pvp talk is the only thing that is revelent in this conversation, because all classes peak at different levels. Edited February 6, 2012 by -Rinzler- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Karsk Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 i ll say l2p and first get to 50 where you deal 1k crit with shiv and 2-3k with hidden strike and then talk against 18000 hp opponents that hit you for 3k every second, Funny, you tell everyone your a bad operative player.I play against them and they still crit me for 4-7 k.And i'm in full batt/champ gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alamein Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 (edited) "Hi, I rolled the FoTM class and now I can't just 2 shot people, it takes me a few globals to kill them. I don't want to have to try, just buff me again please." Scoundrels/Ops are fine. They may need some defensive buffs or something to help increase sustained DPS out of stealth, but their openings are just fine. Also, the OP is trolling. Edited February 6, 2012 by Alamein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Pryor_ Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 your crazy these guys are still almost one shotting me and im in almost full pvp/comumi gear One shotting??. How much health do you have 4k? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeybusiness Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 It's alot fairer now, found a few people actually managing to trick me into using my CC cleaner, just to lock me again. (tactical facepalm aimed at me) Op, stop aiming at Vanguards/powertechs/juggernauts/guardian, it's suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labradoraki Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 It's alot fairer now, found a few people actually managing to trick me into using my CC cleaner, just to lock me again. (tactical facepalm aimed at me) Op, stop aiming at Vanguards/powertechs/juggernauts/guardian, it's suicide. sorry but we are supposed to win against all classes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mordredz Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I disagree, the class is very good. Rofl... Yes healers, dmg output nah, not even close... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediDuckling Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Operatives have been nerfed completely, the concealment spec is too weak... You can barely kill clothies and automatically lose vs heavy armored opponents... You are weak an others know it so since you are melee you are one of the first targets for noob tracer spam PWUAHAHAHA! operatives/scoundrels are better than assasins and shodows still so they are defunatly good lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labradoraki Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 PWUAHAHAHA! operatives/scoundrels are better than assasins and shodows still so they are defunatly good lol plz go back to school and learn gramar befor talking in the forums in englis... also assassin and shadows ar 100% beter than operatives cuz they have a lot mor damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviss Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 (edited) Nerf them more, OP **** can burst down 30% hp from stealth. And I am tank with 20k hp and 600+ expertise. Edited February 6, 2012 by Deviss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellison Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Operatives have been nerfed completely, the concealment spec is too weak... You can barely kill clothies and automatically lose vs heavy armored opponents... You are weak an others know it so since you are melee you are one of the first targets for noob tracer spam I agree that scrappers/ops need a buff for PvE but not pvp. In pvp all you have to do is be opportunistic. My scrapper picks out wounded enemies in a crowd and systematically slaughters them, vanishes and goes back to waiting for a fight to unfold. You aren't a heavily armored trooper, attacking a crowd on your own is suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
equeone Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 This is a L2P issue... cuz i had an operative stun me and kill me in my champ/bm sorc with 16k hp... Not much u can do when stunned and then hit 4 times for 4k+ each and dead.... So ops are pretty good still! lol aweful liar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labradoraki Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 lol aweful liar yeps his an 100% fake liar simply because he lost to an operative he creates numbers out f his mind to shield himself from his skilless abilities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediDuckling Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 plz go back to school and learn gramar befor talking in the forums in englis... also assassin and shadows ar 100% beter than operatives cuz they have a lot mor damage my grammar may be bad but i surely know more about the game than you do. your logic is wrong learn to play when i was wrong i appologise maybe you should do the same.but in this case im right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labradoraki Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 my grammar may be bad but i surely know more about the game than you do. your logic is wrong learn to play when i was wrong i appologise maybe you should do the same.but in this case im right ahahhahah u definitely know many things by using such argument.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runieux Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 They need another nerf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzou Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 OPs are more than ok.. nerf their opening maybe or even some boost in long fights so they are boosted at pve ,is also fine. but pvp buff is a joke hahaha if u cant kill sorcs assasins(dps) mercs -powertechs(not tank) or anything not tankinsh then u need gear and better specc. and again if u cant reroll ,Ops are overpowered still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haralin Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 (edited) Im Scroundrel and must say in PvP no Buff is needed i am only at 528 expertise and still can kill other classes some quick some not. But in PvE there must be a Buff but i dont know how to do this. Edited February 6, 2012 by Haralin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LenrocNewDawn Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 So, what you OPS and scoundrels want is: have burst damage, some sustained DPS and the ability to tank for a while. Ah and let's not forget some stealth ability. You could also be requesting for a ******, a fork and a ping pong table so the list could be complete. Better yet ask for virtual Chuck Norris while you are at it Seriously now, I know I have some L2P to do since I'm just lvl 44 on my slinger but if you think Ops/scoundrels need a buff you are either delusional or are worse at this game then yours truly. From personal experience I lose 3 out of 4 encounters with those classes and not necessarily when they are at higher level (yeah I know I'm a nOOb/not geared and all that s***). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mamono Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 (edited) plz go back to school and learn gramar befor talking in the forums in englis... also assassin and shadows ar 100% beter than operatives cuz they have a lot mor damage It is fun how troll's talk about grammar all the time. Let me join the club and grammar police you too….. Please go back to school and learn proper grammar before writing in the forums in English. Also assassin and shadow are 100% better then operatives because they have a lot more damage. This was fun Maybe I should grammar police more troll's Edited February 6, 2012 by Mamono Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogfatherxx Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I can't tell if you are serious. The OP must be extremely bad if he is having a hard time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzou Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 hes not serious ofc and if he is hes a bad player. simple as that. Ops are still overpowered at pvp but needs some buffing maybe at pve(bleeds -proccs through LOT time etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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